Game Formattop Eight players (1v1)/teams (2v2) divided into two groups. During the group stages, games will be played out OSL double elimination style, meaning players with two wins advance from the group stages onto RO4. 1v1 sets are BO3; 2v2 sets are BO5.
The BW Asia Open offline tournament will commence on Nov. 29 and span three days until Dec. 1. All games will be played live in SCNTV's studio in Shanghai, and viewers are encouraged to attend the events in person (see this page if you want to know how to get there: http://sc.scntv.com/news/2013-11-07/3145.html).
The tournament has two sections: 1v1 and 2v2. Both events have top players from China and Korea.
Fengzi: ex-pro, Zerg, top player in China. Fengzi has won almost all past Chinese BW events. Presently, he's the undisputed #1 player in China. Though lately, Jaystar has been catching up and taking games off of Fengzi more frequently.
Jaystar: ex-pro, Protoss, top 3 in China. Jaystar is mostly know for his timing attacks and super aggressive style. People in China sometimes call him Jangbi of China. Jaystar is a very strategic player.
Jedi: Zerg player. Don't know much about him. Not so good.
Scan: Scan's been playing in A LOT of tournaments in China and winning quite a few of them as well. Scan beats Fengzi quite consistently, but had some issues against Chinese Protoss players such as Jaystar.
Jat.Girl: a.k.a. Beast. SoSPA.
Pic: don't know.
Movie: SoSPA.
Helios: ex-pro, Terran. Top Terran in China. I personally don't think he's as good as Fengzi or Jaystar.
2v2 Players - I don't watch 2v2, so I can only give limited info:
Fengzi and Scan make a good combo, but Scan has some temper issues in 2v2.
FengG_G and Money defeated Movie and Hero in the online qualifiers.
334 is probably the most well-known 2v2 player in China, and it will be interesting to see how he works with Savior.
I'll go take a look, but the Korean invites are disappointing, unless jat.girl and pic are aliases of famous progamers? edit: ninja description of the players!
And Savior pairing with a Chinese player in the 2v2 tournament? How are they going to communicate?
On November 24 2013 14:21 endy wrote: Thanks Cambium.
I'll go take a look, but the Korean invites are disappointing, unless jat.girl and pic are aliases of famous progamers?
And Savior pairing with a Chinese player in the 2v2 tournament? How are they going to communicate?
Jat.Girl is Beast, so he is quite strong. They entertained ideas around inviting 'top' players like Sea, but the conclusion was that they did not want to invite someone way above their levels so that at least they have a chance at winning the money (totals to be USD 70K). This is why they invited weaker players (like Beast, Scan and Pic) and had Movie and Savior go through an extra qualifier. I'm pretty sure Movie and Beast will take #1 and #2, with only #3 up for grabs (possibly Jaystar if he doesn't lose to Fengzi).
Meh, I don't really understand why they call it an "Open" if there is no open bracket. But looking forward to the event, I hope some of the chinese players manage to edge out a win against their Korean opponents!
On November 26 2013 19:05 JustPassingBy wrote: Meh, I don't really understand why they call it an "Open" if there is no open bracket. But looking forward to the event, I hope some of the chinese players manage to edge out a win against their Korean opponents!
There was an open bracket. This is the Ro8 composed of 3 players from the open bracket, 3 Korean invites, and 1 invite by the sponsor,and one from a wildcard tournament (not sure why this one was organized, if I remember correctly, there were supposed to be 2 invites by sponsor instead of one).
On November 26 2013 19:31 iFU.ZerGgBoY wrote: hope someone adds replays and vod's link for this event!
Replays of the open bracket are available from Ro40 for the 1v1 tournament and Ro24 for the 2v2 tournament. http://ao.scntv.com/
Scroll down, select 1v1 or 2v2 (there are actually tabs, not headers of columns as we could first think) Then X 进 Y means RoX with Y players qualifying.
For MSL Survivor groups: X组 = Group X 胜者战 = Winners match 败者战 = Losers match 最终战 = Final match
VODs are available at: http://sc.scntv.com/vod/yzsc/ . Note: all games containing "外卡赛" are part of the wildcard tournament won by Movie.
I talked with Scan and he says there may be a chance he will be able to stream at the scntv house and possibly cast some games. I also talked with a chinese fan of scan and he/she said the event should be broadcasted on the scntv site.
On November 26 2013 19:05 JustPassingBy wrote: Meh, I don't really understand why they call it an "Open" if there is no open bracket. But looking forward to the event, I hope some of the chinese players manage to edge out a win against their Korean opponents!
There was an open bracket. This is the Ro8 composed of 3 players from the Ro8, 3 Korean invites, and 1 invite by the sponsor, and one from a wildcard tournament (not sure why this one was organized, if I remember correctly, there were supposed to be 2 invites by sponsor instead of one).
On November 26 2013 19:05 JustPassingBy wrote: Meh, I don't really understand why they call it an "Open" if there is no open bracket. But looking forward to the event, I hope some of the chinese players manage to edge out a win against their Korean opponents!
There was an open bracket. This is the Ro8 composed of 3 players from the open bracket, 3 Korean invites, and 1 invite by the sponsor,and one from a wildcard tournament (not sure why this one was organized, if I remember correctly, there were supposed to be 2 invites by sponsor instead of one).
e:typo
the wildcard tournament was actually the losers bracket, with two invited players: movie and savior
On November 26 2013 22:11 thezanursic wrote: What are the chances of Bisu playing as either the Korean players or nominated by the sponsors?
I remember reading something about bisu participating in the old thread.
don't think so, unless they secretly invited bisu to shanghai
the problem is lag, the sponsor constantly declares his willingness to sponsor events involving koreans (he even says he's willing to host Korean-only tournaments, with proper Chinese cast), but the none of this can happen because of lag (i.e. they can't have Chinese observers/players in the same game with Koreans).
On November 26 2013 14:37 lordsurya08 wrote: I hope there's an English stream. DAE know if scn.tv has english casters?
they don't
Is there any way we could liase with the Chinese organisers to provide an official English stream of at least part of this?
I have F91 as a contact on QQ, he works for SCNTV. I asked if they wanted to open an English stream for that Huge Tournament in Guangzhou, even with just an ob position from an online community caster and SCNTV said they don't need one.
I imagine it would be the same for this tournament. However, no one can stop you from pirate-restreaming their content to twitch.
i could do the cast on live since i know both chinese and english. however, since i am not a native english speaker, so if u guys can tolarate my "low level english", i would be happy to do that.
well we all know how strong chinese wc3 is , this is my 1st time checking out chinese bw , I hope a stream or VODs are provided , will definitely check it out.
On November 27 2013 02:24 forumtext wrote: Movie already knocked out Savior?
On November 27 2013 02:31 esdf wrote: wait. wat? savior? omg <33333333 hope he plays in 1x1 as well, not only 2x2
Movie defeated Savior in the wildcard tournament (which is actually the loser brackets of the open qualifier, thanks Cambium), so Savior did not qualify for the 1v1 tournament.
On November 27 2013 02:31 esdf wrote: wait. wat? savior? omg <33333333 hope he plays in 1x1 as well, not only 2x2
Movie defeated Savior in the wildcard tournament (which is actually the loser brackets of the open qualifier, thanks Cambium), so Savior did not qualify for the 1v1 tournament.
that's sad :< wanted to see him soo badly in an official game again..
On November 27 2013 02:24 forumtext wrote: Movie already knocked out Savior?
On November 27 2013 02:31 esdf wrote: wait. wat? savior? omg <33333333 hope he plays in 1x1 as well, not only 2x2
Movie defeated Savior in the wildcard tournament (which is actually the loser brackets of the open qualifier, thanks Cambium), so Savior did not qualify for the 1v1 tournament.
that's sad :< wanted to see him soo badly in an official game again..
Well you can always hope for scnTV to release that movie vs savior rep.
And beside if sAviOr is going to get wreaked like that, I rather not see that bastard embarrass himself any further.
On November 26 2013 23:26 yellowsmile wrote: i could do the cast on live since i know both chinese and english. however, since i am not a native english speaker, so if u guys can tolarate my "low level english", i would be happy to do that.
Do it then. 我的qq群21 94 77 72 8. 如果需要直播技术方面的支持,提前与我联系.我帮你搞定.
On November 27 2013 02:24 forumtext wrote: Movie already knocked out Savior?
On November 27 2013 02:31 esdf wrote: wait. wat? savior? omg <33333333 hope he plays in 1x1 as well, not only 2x2
Movie defeated Savior in the wildcard tournament (which is actually the loser brackets of the open qualifier, thanks Cambium), so Savior did not qualify for the 1v1 tournament.
that's sad :< wanted to see him soo badly in an official game again..
Well you can always hope for scnTV to release that movie vs savior rep.
And beside if sAviOr is going to get wreaked like that, I rather not see that bastard embarrass himself any further.
On November 26 2013 23:26 yellowsmile wrote: i could do the cast on live since i know both chinese and english. however, since i am not a native english speaker, so if u guys can tolarate my "low level english", i would be happy to do that.
Do it then. 我的qq群21 94 77 72 8. 如果需要直播技术方面的支持,提前与我联系.我帮你搞定.
Could you reply my TL private message please? I added you on QQ anyway
On November 26 2013 23:26 yellowsmile wrote: i could do the cast on live since i know both chinese and english. however, since i am not a native english speaker, so if u guys can tolarate my "low level english", i would be happy to do that.
Do it then. 我的qq群21 94 77 72 8. 如果需要直播技术方面的支持,提前与我联系.我帮你搞定.
do it or not, depends on how many potential viewers there would be.
On November 26 2013 23:26 yellowsmile wrote: i could do the cast on live since i know both chinese and english. however, since i am not a native english speaker, so if u guys can tolarate my "low level english", i would be happy to do that.
Do it then. 我的qq群21 94 77 72 8. 如果需要直播技术方面的支持,提前与我联系.我帮你搞定.
do it or not, depends on how many potential viewers there would be.
If you do it on twitch I could watch it as VOD right? Since I have to work when it's live, I'd defenitely like to watch it when I'm done.
On November 28 2013 05:28 emucxg wrote: rumors says SOSPA players refused to participate because savior is playing.
also before the tournament sospa sent a letter to china suggesting to not allow savior to play.
I'm not sure if I can buy this.
All Korean players had to be invited to play in the 2nd half of the qualifier tournament or the main event, and I don't think they invited anyone else (unless that wasn't made public in China, which is doubtful but ultimately possible). The organizers contemplated on inviting Sea, but the idea was quickly shot down because they figured there would be no chance anyone in China could take a game off of him; whereas it's far more likely against Movie (both Fengzi and ZhanHun have during showmatches) and Beast. Sea, Movie and Beast were the only players from SoSPA who had interactions with the Chinese BW scene through showmatches.
With regards to Savior, the sponsor just really wanted to see him play or in person, and that's the end of that.
On November 28 2013 05:28 emucxg wrote: rumors says SOSPA players refused to participate because savior is playing.
also before the tournament sospa sent a letter to china suggesting to not allow savior to play.
I'm not sure if I can buy this.
All Korean players had to be invited to play in the 2nd half of the qualifier tournament or the main event, and I don't think they invited anyone else (unless that wasn't made public in China, which is doubtful but ultimately possible). The organizers contemplated on inviting Sea, but the idea was quickly shot down because they figured there would be no chance anyone in China could take a game off of him; whereas it's far more likely against Movie (both Fengzi and ZhanHun have during showmatches) and Beast. Sea, Movie and Beast were the only players from SoSPA who had interactions with the Chinese BW scene through showmatches.
With regards to Savior, the sponsor just really wanted to see him play or in person, and that's the end of that.
yeah its hard to tell.
i found one source saying sonic league is against Savior playing in China, the orginal poster is CHN-KOR translator. + Show Spoiler +
On November 28 2013 05:28 emucxg wrote: rumors says SOSPA players refused to participate because savior is playing.
also before the tournament sospa sent a letter to china suggesting to not allow savior to play.
I'm not sure if I can buy this.
All Korean players had to be invited to play in the 2nd half of the qualifier tournament or the main event, and I don't think they invited anyone else (unless that wasn't made public in China, which is doubtful but ultimately possible). The organizers contemplated on inviting Sea, but the idea was quickly shot down because they figured there would be no chance anyone in China could take a game off of him; whereas it's far more likely against Movie (both Fengzi and ZhanHun have during showmatches) and Beast. Sea, Movie and Beast were the only players from SoSPA who had interactions with the Chinese BW scene through showmatches.
With regards to Savior, the sponsor just really wanted to see him play or in person, and that's the end of that.
yeah its hard to tell.
i found one source saying sonic league is against Savior playing in China, the orginal poster is CHN-KOR translator. + Show Spoiler +
If you read inside the post, the sponsor basically just told sonic to fuck himself (well not in those words) because it's his tournament and he can invite whoever he wants.
I don't think Chinese fans like Savior that much, it's just the sponsor for some reason. So whatever.
On November 28 2013 05:28 emucxg wrote: rumors says SOSPA players refused to participate because savior is playing.
also before the tournament sospa sent a letter to china suggesting to not allow savior to play.
I'm not sure if I can buy this.
All Korean players had to be invited to play in the 2nd half of the qualifier tournament or the main event, and I don't think they invited anyone else (unless that wasn't made public in China, which is doubtful but ultimately possible). The organizers contemplated on inviting Sea, but the idea was quickly shot down because they figured there would be no chance anyone in China could take a game off of him; whereas it's far more likely against Movie (both Fengzi and ZhanHun have during showmatches) and Beast. Sea, Movie and Beast were the only players from SoSPA who had interactions with the Chinese BW scene through showmatches.
With regards to Savior, the sponsor just really wanted to see him play or in person, and that's the end of that.
yeah its hard to tell.
i found one source saying sonic league is against Savior playing in China, the orginal poster is CHN-KOR translator. + Show Spoiler +
If you read inside the post, the sponsor basically just told sonic to fuck himself (well not in those words) because it's his tournament and he can invite whoever he wants.
I don't think Chinese fans like Savior that much, it's just the sponsor for some reason. So whatever.
Well the Chinese text says Sonic said if Chinese tournaments end up inviting Savior, Sonic won't invite Chinese players to play in tournaments he runs, so there may be some consequences.
On November 24 2013 14:19 Cambium wrote: Information on players:
1v1 Players
Fengzi: ex-pro, Zerg, top player in China. Fengzi has won almost all past Chinese BW events. Presently, he's the undisputed #1 player in China. Though lately, Jaystar has been catching up and taking games off of Fengzi more frequently.
Jaystar: ex-pro, Protoss, top 3 in China. Jaystar is mostly know for his timing attacks and super aggressive style. People in China sometimes call him Jangbi of China. Jaystar is a very strategic player.
Jedi: Zerg player. Don't know much about him. Not so good.
Scan: Scan's been playing in A LOT of tournaments in China and winning quite a few of them as well. Scan beats Fengzi quite consistently, but had some issues against Chinese Protoss players such as Jaystar.
Jat.Girl: a.k.a. Beast. SoSPA.
Pic: don't know.
Movie: SoSPA.
Helios: ex-pro, Terran. Top Terran in China. I personally don't think he's as good as Fengzi or Jaystar.
2v2 Players - I don't watch 2v2, so I can only give limited info:
Fengzi and Scan make a good combo, but Scan has some temper issues in 2v2.
FengG_G and Money defeated Movie and Hero in the online qualifiers.
334 is probably the most well-known 2v2 player in China, and it will be interesting to see how he works with Savior.
I wouldnt discount Jedi by any means, the replays i used to watch of him back in the day he was pretty good.
Granted Jaystar/Fengzi are in the tournament so idk.
Have they always been using fengyun (I haven't watched anything live from China for a very long time)?
Fengyun I think works/worked the best for me.
Fengyun became really popular in 2012. Before that was PPTV which forced you to install a plug-in and it didn't work for some people. Fengyun works the best for me too out of all the streaming options.
On November 29 2013 17:13 Cambium wrote: Did the schedule change? I thought they'd play 2v2s before 1v1s.
They mentioned on stream that the first day they won't be able to stream all the games, so there are some games being played concurrently, but that on days 2-3, they'll show all the games
edit: Haha, one caster just gave a shout-out to TL. Mentioned that someone made a thread on TL and that the non-Chinese community was interested in the tourney too.
On November 29 2013 18:12 GeLaar wrote: And Savior's playing Terran?! Is this only for 2v2, or has he changed races at some point in the last three years?
according to translator on twitch restream, savior and 334 both randomed while their teammates both picked zerg.
On November 29 2013 18:42 Sayle wrote: lol I love how the commentators at the end of that game are like "wait, really gg? oh it's a real gg..."
You really need to cast these! At least the finals! Also since you speak Chinese that could be usefull, no questionable transltors in the chat trolling us :d
you may be right, i'm not so familiar beast's play. guess we will see.
scan, well he already lost to movie in two straight up games. i was actually impressed he didn't cheese / rush. but that's the only way he's gona takes games off movie imo.
That game was actually closer than I expected thanks to some good recalls. Scan's expo choice doesn't seem to be the most optimal as pros choose to take the 12 if they start in 7
movie 2-0 scan fengzi/scan 3-0 feng G G/money jaystar 2-0 pic savior/334 3-0 aystar/22haicouhe movie 2-1 jaystar fengzi 2-0 jedi scan 2-1 jaystar there was another boring 2v2, but i cant remember the results or who played.
so we didn't see any of beast's games, guessing quite a few matches were played concurrently with the ones that were streamed live. anyone know the full results from all matches played?
On November 29 2013 23:12 seom wrote: movie 2-0 scan fengzi/scan 3-0 feng G G/money jaystar 2-0 pic savior/334 3-0 aystar/22haicouhe movie 2-1 jaystar fengzi 2-0 jedi scan 2-1 jaystar there was another boring 2v2, but i cant remember the results or who played.
On November 29 2013 23:12 seom wrote: movie 2-0 scan fengzi/scan 3-0 feng G G/money jaystar 2-0 pic savior/334 3-0 aystar/22haicouhe movie 2-1 jaystar fengzi 2-0 jedi scan 2-1 jaystar there was another boring 2v2, but i cant remember the results or who played.
wait what?
yup. though he is only playing in the 2v2 tournament.
On November 30 2013 06:07 CutTheEnemy wrote: as the sc2 scene shrinks, bw is growing????
KR is stabilizing, CN is building infrastructure, Foreign scene is stagnating
Or Sonic can get a hold of Sziky and make him a part of his Sonic All Star team so we get a legit foreigner pro. Then we can apply the rule of "no inviting pros or ex-pros" on foreigner tournaments.
On November 30 2013 06:07 CutTheEnemy wrote: as the sc2 scene shrinks, bw is growing????
KR is stabilizing, CN is building infrastructure, Foreign scene is stagnating
Or Sonic can get a hold of Sziky and make him a part of his Sonic All Star team so we get a legit foreigner pro. Then we can apply the rule of "no inviting pros or ex-pros" on foreigner tournaments.
That wouldnt make him a pro. I'd love to see him play in SOSPA though. Unfortunetly though Szikys connection sucks so he cant play with obs.
On November 30 2013 09:26 s_k_911 wrote: today's matchs forcast : (at 15:00 30th-Nov KoreaStandardTime) 1v1 :scan vs jatgirl movie vs fengzi 2v2 :scan fengzi vs jatgirl pic 334 ipxzerg vs feng money
On November 29 2013 23:12 seom wrote: movie 2-0 scan fengzi/scan 3-0 feng G G/money jaystar 2-0 pic savior/334 3-0 aystar/22haicouhe movie 2-1 jaystar fengzi 2-0 jedi scan 2-1 jaystar there was another boring 2v2, but i cant remember the results or who played.
On November 30 2013 09:26 s_k_911 wrote: today's matchs forcast : (at 15:00 30th-Nov KoreaStandardTime) 1v1 :scan vs jatgirl movie vs fengzi 2v2 :scan fengzi vs jatgirl pic 334 ipxzerg vs feng money
On November 30 2013 09:26 s_k_911 wrote: today's matchs forcast : (at 15:00 30th-Nov KoreaStandardTime) 1v1 :scan vs jatgirl movie vs fengzi 2v2 :scan fengzi vs jatgirl pic 334 ipxzerg vs feng money
On November 30 2013 09:26 s_k_911 wrote: today's matchs forcast : (at 15:00 30th-Nov KoreaStandardTime) 1v1 :scan vs jatgirl movie vs fengzi 2v2 :scan fengzi vs jatgirl pic 334 ipxzerg vs feng money
On November 30 2013 09:26 s_k_911 wrote: today's matchs forcast : (at 15:00 30th-Nov KoreaStandardTime) 1v1 :scan vs jatgirl movie vs fengzi 2v2 :scan fengzi vs jatgirl pic 334 ipxzerg vs feng money
scan doesnt really know andromeda... he should've put turret on the high ground @ his natural and kill the neutral buildings. Beast basically won with a group of mutas
Both players have one game under their belts. Scan won with a patient, methodical beatdown on beast. Beast then bounces back with a sloppy muta opening into a nicely executed lurk/guard/defiler push. This is getting exciting.
Isn't this game a bit weird? I thought Terran mech armies tended to turtle, save for the occasional Vulture harass. But now it seems that a relatively small Mech army is running around the map.
yep, scan didnt defend well enough to secure top side so he never had a good chance to win. There were a few times where I thought he might hold but then you could see the sea of red on the minimap.
It actually seems like 2v2 semis are delayed because of the Scan vs beast set. The 2v2 set should've started 40-50minutes ago. Seems like they are taking a 10-20minute break if anything.
EDIT: Oh shit nevermind, the 2v2 set starts at 19:00 China time so yea 1hr break
fengzi / movie will be after the 2v2. They look quite even in 2v2 and beast/pic look better than both these teams. Maybe if Beast wins mOvie he will take 1v1 AND 2v2 title, damn he gonna be rich
From what I heard from Scan(Who heard from fengzi), he said the SCNTV house was 1000ft2 ,but this could've been something else. Keep in mind they were also running a SC2 stream ,so there is a possibility there were two parts to this stadium.
On December 01 2013 19:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: savior just won 25k usd playing bw in 2013
The 1st place money is probably split since the prize pool would be over 88,000 USD equivalent otherwise. Still, that's an amazing amount of money for broodwar, let alone that this was for 2v2.
On December 01 2013 21:33 endy wrote: Beast was doing really well in the KOTH PL, I think he may be nervous playing in a real booth in front of a crowd.
Yeah, he's made some uncharacteristically bad mistakes in all of his games.
overall im a bit disappointed and i think it could have been much better. They should've invited more players, at least twice as many for such a huge prize pool Skill gap between players was to big - it was like Movie/Beast ----> Fengzi/Scan/Jaystar ------------> rest
On December 02 2013 04:13 LV_426 wrote: overall im a bit disappointed and i think it could have been much better. They should've invited more players, at least twice as many for such a huge prize pool Skill gap between players was to big - it was like Movie/Beast ----> Fengzi/Scan/Jaystar ------------> rest
You have to think about this from a different perspective.
With this amount of money (and paid flights and hotels too), without a stretch, they could have invited anyone they wanted. The point is (practically free trip and free money), this is still mostly a Chinese tournament, despite the name suggesting otherwise. The sponsor and the fans did not want to just hand money over to Korean players who just play on different planes. They could get high level players for free via SRT, SSL etc. The point of this tournament was to have Chinese players compete against Korean players in not-so-onesided fashions.
Most people in China really like Movie and Beast because in their past exhibition matches, they tried to make the games interesting, and would (in my opinion) frequently play odd and unorthodox strategies so that the Chinese players actually have a decent shot at winning. I don't think they ever played a series in the past where they ended up X-0'd the opponent, when everyone knows they very well could have, with ease. This is perceived as friendly and polite in Asian cultures, and very well received.
Having said all of that, the sponsor did say he was willing to financially sponsor online Korean only exhibition matches with prizes exceeding Sonic's means, but they have problems of getting Chinese observers into the game without lag.
On December 02 2013 04:13 LV_426 wrote: overall im a bit disappointed and i think it could have been much better. They should've invited more players, at least twice as many for such a huge prize pool Skill gap between players was to big - it was like Movie/Beast ----> Fengzi/Scan/Jaystar ------------> rest
You have to think about this from a different perspective.
With this amount of money (and paid flights and hotels too), without a stretch, they could have invited anyone they wanted. The point is (practically free trip and free money), this is still mostly a Chinese tournament, despite the name suggesting otherwise. The sponsor and the fans did not want to just hand money over to Korean players who just play on different planes. They could get high level players for free via SRT, SSL etc. The point of this tournament was to have Chinese players compete against Korean players in not-so-onesided fashions.
Most people in China really like Movie and Beast because in their past exhibition matches, they tried to make the games interesting, and would (in my opinion) frequently play odd and unorthodox strategies so that the Chinese players actually have a decent shot at winning. I don't think they ever played a series in the past where they ended up X-0'd the opponent, when everyone knows they very well could have, with ease. This is perceived as friendly and polite in Asian cultures, and very well received.
Having said all of that, the sponsor did say he was willing to financially sponsor online Korean only exhibition matches with prizes exceeding Sonic's means, but they have problems of getting Chinese observers into the game without lag.
I think Sonic and the Chinese sponsors should partner up and so the Chinese can sponsor SSL and fly those StarGirls/Caster in Korea.
On December 02 2013 04:13 LV_426 wrote: overall im a bit disappointed and i think it could have been much better. They should've invited more players, at least twice as many for such a huge prize pool Skill gap between players was to big - it was like Movie/Beast ----> Fengzi/Scan/Jaystar ------------> rest
You have to think about this from a different perspective.
With this amount of money (and paid flights and hotels too), without a stretch, they could have invited anyone they wanted. The point is (practically free trip and free money), this is still mostly a Chinese tournament, despite the name suggesting otherwise. The sponsor and the fans did not want to just hand money over to Korean players who just play on different planes. They could get high level players for free via SRT, SSL etc. The point of this tournament was to have Chinese players compete against Korean players in not-so-onesided fashions.
Most people in China really like Movie and Beast because in their past exhibition matches, they tried to make the games interesting, and would (in my opinion) frequently play odd and unorthodox strategies so that the Chinese players actually have a decent shot at winning. I don't think they ever played a series in the past where they ended up X-0'd the opponent, when everyone knows they very well could have, with ease. This is perceived as friendly and polite in Asian cultures, and very well received.
Having said all of that, the sponsor did say he was willing to financially sponsor online Korean only exhibition matches with prizes exceeding Sonic's means, but they have problems of getting Chinese observers into the game without lag.
I think Sonic and the Chinese sponsors should partner up and so the Chinese can sponsor SSL and fly those StarGirls/Caster in Korea.
According to one of the Chinese posts earlier in the thread, Sonic really wanted the Chinese sponsor to not let Savior play, but the Chinese sponsor really likes Savior, so he ended up playing. Sonic said he will not let Chinese players play in future SOSPAs (this might be a rumour, so correct me if I'm wrong), so I think relations between Chinese and Sonic aren't exactly great at the moment.
I am so excited to see so many foreign friends love this game. I come from China. In my thinking, except Korea, China, no other country's people love this game. I am definitely wrong. In China, beside this match, there are also many other matches. One followed one, we have live telecast to see almost every day. The most regretful things is, sometimes these matches interfer with each other, we have to choose one of them to watch. The match are mostly sponsored by some young rich guys who loves BW. Next Tuesday, the 3rd COSL 2v2 match will begin. 32 to 16. Champion win 50K RMB, about $8K. There are also some Korea players in it. If you can read chinese. You can hit link: http://bbs.scntv.com/thread-79933-1-2.html. Maybe you had ever heard of some ids. At least you should probably know Movie. 1v1: Movie, Jatgirl, Fengzi, Scan 2v2: Savior+334, Jatgirl+pic, Fengzi+Scan, FengG-G+Money.
On November 27 2013 01:21 Tchado wrote: well we all know how strong chinese wc3 is , this is my 1st time checking out chinese bw , I hope a stream or VODs are provided , will definitely check it out.
Just watched the final vod and I'm really impressed by this tournament. It looks like it was a really awesome event. Really hope they'll continue organising tournaments like this. Also, I've become a Fengzi now, he seems like a pretty cool guy on stage.
Bleh, I meant to update the results.... and post the replays (probably only the 1v1s due to he-who-must-not-be-named) at some point, probably this weekend
On December 12 2013 01:25 Cambium wrote: Bleh, I meant to update the results.... and post the replays (probably only the 1v1s due to he-who-must-not-be-named) at some point, probably this weekend
On December 11 2013 19:21 Hoender wrote: Just watched the final vod and I'm really impressed by this tournament. It looks like it was a really awesome event. Really hope they'll continue organising tournaments like this. Also, I've become a Fengzi now, he seems like a pretty cool guy on stage.
For the people who weren't sure with the player name "Pic", he is Capi from iCCup. Long ago 2v2 user. He quit iCCup because of the lag he did not like(he does not like to play on high/extra high latency).
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