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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
April 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#221
On April 23 2011 13:38 DropBear wrote:
This is an idea coming from a noob, but would Valkyries have been good for Leta in this situation? Would take out the scourge coming for his vessels, and do some serious damage to the Queens.

I don't think the queens were clustered enough for valks to be better than wraiths, especially since they had +2 armour.

Also taking out the scourge never really seemed like an issue, they all melted to goliaths.
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_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
April 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#222
hehehe Hydra vs Light. ) One interesting match after another.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 04:41:28
April 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#223
On April 23 2011 13:38 DropBear wrote:
This is an idea coming from a noob, but would Valkyries have been good for Leta in this situation? Would take out the scourge coming for his vessels, and do some serious damage to the Queens.

I don't think valks have the damage output to kill queens before they destroy the tanks and queens can regenerate their health while they build-up energy

edit: also SK got +2 air armor so the valks need to be upgraded and you can't exactly KNOW he's gonna go queens so your upgrades are gonna be delayed
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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
April 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#224
On April 23 2011 13:38 DropBear wrote:
This is an idea coming from a noob, but would Valkyries have been good for Leta in this situation? Would take out the scourge coming for his vessels, and do some serious damage to the Queens.

Valkyries kinda suck. Queens are faster and Valkyries can be easily scourged
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
April 23 2011 04:41 GMT
#225
On April 23 2011 13:38 DropBear wrote:
This is an idea coming from a noob, but would Valkyries have been good for Leta in this situation? Would take out the scourge coming for his vessels, and do some serious damage to the Queens.


No point to use valkyries. All the queens needs to do is just shoot the broodling. Valks cant kill those queens in time b4 they broodling.. Aside from that, its a waste of gas in mech vZ
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
April 23 2011 04:41 GMT
#226
Don't see hydra surviving in the lategame after his game against Sea on Circuit Breakers. His best chance is muta or lurker allin.
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 23 2011 04:41 GMT
#227
HYDRAAAAAAAAAA \o/

Crush Light again >D
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10343 Posts
April 23 2011 04:41 GMT
#228
Jaedong used queens for a relatively short span (primarily ensnare tactics vs bio). He pulled it off, but lamented that queen usage was too difficult and he didn't want to do it anymore. Of course, that was way back, before the reign of the mech switch.

Basically, what someone said on the last page is true: SK's late game ZvT is easily among the best but what he needs to do is strengthen his mid-game, where he is typically very vulnerable. Much like Zero.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 23 2011 04:42 GMT
#229
Leta would have been better off trying to EMP the Queens more than anything.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 23 2011 04:43 GMT
#230
Lategame valks glitch out.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
April 23 2011 04:43 GMT
#231
C'mon Hydra! Tool this terran chump again!
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
April 23 2011 04:43 GMT
#232
On April 23 2011 13:41 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Jaedong used queens for a relatively short span (primarily ensnare tactics vs bio). He pulled it off, but lamented that queen usage was too difficult and he didn't want to do it anymore. Of course, that was way back, before the reign of the mech switch.

Basically, what someone said on the last page is true: SK's late game ZvT is easily among the best but what he needs to do is strengthen his mid-game, where he is typically very vulnerable. Much like Zero.


If even the mechanical beast of Jaedong complains about its difficulty, then I wont get to see this build much on iccup! Yay!
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 23 2011 04:43 GMT
#233
On April 23 2011 03:07 Release wrote:
Light>hydra @icarus imo.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 03:03 LichtgestaltSC wrote:
I´m pumped for the matches even if I have to wake up at six o´clock for it. Gotta bring sacrifices for the daily dose of starcraft !!
Anyways, I hope CJ will profit of the switch of format like it did in previous seasons...the line-up ist just so deep again, it´s amazing !
Unfortunately, I heard that (Z)EffOrt isn´t allowed into the rooster for some more month, is that correct ?

Effort is returning in august i read.

I guessed the matchup, but can i guess the result?
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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
April 23 2011 04:44 GMT
#234
On April 23 2011 13:42 BlackMagister wrote:
Leta would have been better off trying to EMP the Queens more than anything.

EMPing slow arbiters is hard. Queens are faaast
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 23 2011 04:44 GMT
#235
Hydra's having monitor problems, commentators trying to blabber to fill up time.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
April 23 2011 04:44 GMT
#236
On April 23 2011 13:43 ShadeR wrote:
Lategame valks glitch out.


Ya, because of the sprite limit on maps, I think only 6 valks can shoot at once too.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 23 2011 04:44 GMT
#237
On April 23 2011 13:36 J1.au wrote:
You guys are overreacting so much.

No, other zergs should learn to do what Soulkey did if they know what's good for them. It could be a major shift in lategame ZvT where the power of mech is greatly blunted by spawn broodling.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
April 23 2011 04:45 GMT
#238
Guys, Queens vs Mech has always been an option. Look in Strategy to see how many theorycrafts there are on the subject.

The problem is that it requires really good micro and come at the expense of Defilers.

What's impressive about Neo_G's play is not choosing to use Queens, but rather being able to balance their requirements.

That said, it's devastating VS a complacent turtle terran that lets Z accumulate said Queen count. If he scans it, there is a timing window that he can and should strike, before the Queens amass enough energy.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
April 23 2011 04:45 GMT
#239
Light looks sleepy
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 23 2011 04:45 GMT
#240
On April 23 2011 13:44 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 13:43 ShadeR wrote:
Lategame valks glitch out.


Ya, because of the sprite limit on maps, I think only 6 valks can shoot at once too.

It's not a limit on valks, but rather limit on sprites. Valks shoot "8" at once, more than most other units (who shoot 1/0) so they are the first one to stop. I've only ever seen this one BGH games.
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