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marcoso
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rsc4p.png) Monday, Jan 31 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) MBCGame HERO vs KT Rolster Set 1: Aztec Set 2: La Mancha Set 3: Circuit Breaker Set 4: Icarus Set 5: Bloody Ridge Set 6: Empire of the Sun Set 7: Fortress Lineups + Show Spoiler + Results + Show Spoiler + Recommended Games + Show Spoiler + Set 3: watch if you have time. Set 7: kind of fun How we watched: Thanks, npnl.fedOr | ||
infinitestory
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EtherealDeath
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 Was thinking of making it but decided I would probably fall asleep halfway through ^^ | ||
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Lightwip
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On January 31 2011 18:25 Holgerius wrote: Who won game 1? Hyun. | ||
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Ryo
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Light may not get the chance to do many all-kills but everybody is happier this way. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:24 EtherealDeath wrote: yay, thread is up Was thinking of making it but decided I would probably fall asleep halfway through ^^ Haha me too I didn't want to get banned ;; | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:27 flamewheel wrote: Thanks Marcoso^^ lolustillawake Better be rooting for KT :D :D :D | ||
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flamewheel
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On January 31 2011 18:27 EtherealDeath wrote: lolustillawake Better be rooting for KT :D :D :D I'm rooting for concrete results to make PR easier ~.~ | ||
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GTR
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On January 31 2011 18:29 doothegee wrote: I heard Nal_ra's voice and got excited for a second because I saw Kal vs ggaemo. yeh haha thought he came back. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:29 flamewheel wrote: I'm rooting for concrete results to make PR easier ~.~ You should be rooting for a Flash 3-kill. | ||
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Katsuge
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:30 Katsuge wrote: action's next.. o_o Flash all-kill today! | ||
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Holgerius
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flamewheel
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On January 31 2011 18:30 Holgerius wrote: You should be rooting for a Flash 3-kill. Why not an all-kill? | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
chin all-kill :D | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
fuck | ||
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darklordjac
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nozaro33
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GO KANG MIN FIGHTING WE BELIEVE IN YOU | ||
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eviltomahawk
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KT fighting! | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:29 flamewheel wrote: I'm rooting for concrete results to make PR easier ~.~ What if Flash doesn't play today? | ||
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pvzvt
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On January 31 2011 18:31 Amnesia wrote: wow, both players on my anti team playing lol fuck thats what we call a lose lose situation ,,,, | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Was hoping he would get sent out in Game 2. -__- But ya, all-kill would be even better. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
Is have KT on FPL + ace match flash + have flash on FPL + 3 kill flash still more points than all-kill flash / 4-0 KT? No idea how FPL is being scored these days XD | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
Apparently KT has decided that being down 1 protoss isn't enough of a handicap and decide to sacrifice both their zergs. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4351 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:29 flamewheel wrote: I'm rooting for concrete results to make PR easier ~.~ Interesting haha, I think it's going to be an arduous task whatever happens. Good luck! And thanks for the save marcoso <3 | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:34 Tianx wrote: Starting off the set with Hoejja and Action's ZvZ. Apparently KT has decided that being down 1 protoss isn't enough of a handicap and decide to sacrifice both their zergs. ...posted that just as Action snipes the hatch lol. Gooooo Action! | ||
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Katsuge
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spire's going up, hyun no spire yet.. actions's sneaky lings snipes another drone | ||
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
no flash AK again lol | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Seeing how he couldn't morph them into banelings, he killed one or two of Hyun's drones with them. | ||
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infinitestory
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GG | ||
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nozaro33
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
Action with two ZvZ wins in a row? I'm positively speechless. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Is Action going to be on a win streak after his loss streak? Let's hope so. | ||
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Katsuge
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letian
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BeaTeR
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man, i so want this guy to make an allkill, he needs some confidence in televised matches. | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:40 J1.au wrote: Action is going to all-kill, mark my words! Wouldn't count on it | ||
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letian
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Action is a good player, he just needs some confidence, having Flash as your partner, destroys it%) | ||
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Katsuge
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On January 31 2011 18:43 darklordjac wrote: What games are we watching? replay of Kal vs GGaemo back when hes in Oz | ||
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letian
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On January 31 2011 18:43 Holgerius wrote: Lol, if Flash doesn't get to play at all the situation for Flamewheel will be so bad. :D The Flash fanboys will be all ''Durr, Flash is bonjwa and would've totally won any game if he was sent out, he just has too good teammates'' and the rest of the pack will be all ''Hurr, there's no way to know that and we can't give credit for games not played''. haha, well this is how it always happens | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
sea - action hope zerg survives until his hive tech is done | ||
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Ryo
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darklordjac
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Holgerius
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Not really, last year people pretty much never had a case against Flash. | ||
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Tianx
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I don't care who wins, as long as Action makes it to hive tech. Please don't disappoint. | ||
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hellbound
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On January 31 2011 18:49 darklordjac wrote: Good ole 8 rax You'd probably approve of whatever Sea does -_- | ||
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darklordjac
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On January 31 2011 18:49 hellbound wrote: You'd probably approve of whatever Sea does -_- As long as he wins | ||
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Corrupt
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On January 31 2011 18:47 Holgerius wrote: This game could be good. It's up to Action though. Right.. :\ | ||
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Katsuge
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just in time. | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Action pulls drones to fight and Sea's marines pull back with minimal loss. | ||
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eviltomahawk
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The Spire is still going up, and Sea could take this timing to smash through Action's nat. | ||
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Ryo
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Katsuge
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fails, of course. action has this. | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Mutas move into the main and wreck havoc on the mineral line. | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 18:57 5unrise wrote: Omg SEA WHERES UR TURRETS??? They got killed. lols. | ||
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Ryo
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5unrise
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I meant in the main ;( lawlz | ||
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Hyde
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On January 31 2011 18:57 hellbound wrote: DAmn stream dying for me, what's happening??? Sea moving out with a handful of marines, while mutas are dancing around. Looks like lurkers are morphing in. | ||
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mizU
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Should be gg. | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Sea's squad of M&M gets owned by mutaling in the middle of the map. | ||
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flamewheel
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Though it doesn't really matter since hive is coming yay. | ||
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Katsuge
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<3 | ||
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Scaramanga
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On January 31 2011 18:59 mizU wrote: Sea just lost his whole mm force again. Should be gg. Should be, but action hasnt had the best multitask, hes just gotten up to like 9 drones at his third gas, add to that sea's 2 tanks vs low tech and at this point, low lurker count, sea still has a chance to break here | ||
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Ryo
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Katsuge
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all over now.. | ||
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Tianx
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Sea *almost* breaks up the ramp of Action's 3rd but runs out of scan | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Defilers out. | ||
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Scaramanga
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SWARM yay, action has this now | ||
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nozaro33
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(lolz) | ||
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Ryo
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On January 31 2011 19:03 Katsuge wrote: why is sea still alive >_> You gotta ask Action that. | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 19:09 InFdude wrote: Terran imba strikes again. Zerg stupidity strikes again. | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 19:09 eviltomahawk wrote: SEA, Y U SEND VULTURES AND GOLS AGAINST ULTRAS?!? Cuz Action sends ultras and lings against mines... | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 19:09 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: yeah but Sea is ridiculously bad. Yet he's still alive. LOL | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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which only makes a Zerg look pathetic ... | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Action pushes towards the tank line in the middle. | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 19:11 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: which only makes a Zerg look pathetic ... Well looks like it's swinging into Action's favor now.. but then again. That was this whole game and now... | ||
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mizU
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guess what? IT DIED. | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Ling drop at the 3:00 does nothing. Sea just has too many vultures and goliaths. | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 19:16 GolemMadness wrote: Action really needs to do more harassment drops at Sea's expansions. They're hella vulnerable. Well mech is pretty immobile. So yes. But instead he's deciding to run into tank lines and minefields. | ||
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Lann555
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On January 31 2011 19:17 okum wrote: You people who think Sea has had any chance during the last 10 minutes should count the bases... (yes, it's ok for a zerg on 8 bases to throw away units). Ye, this game has been over for a while now. Sea is just being stubborn | ||
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integral
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this shit is insane, action's taken this to a whole 'nother fucking level. what a sick hive player, seriously... | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:17 okum wrote: You people who think Sea has had any chance during the last 10 minutes should count the bases... (yes, it's ok for a zerg on 8 bases to throw away units). Sea's at a disadvantage, but this game is by no means over. Action's throwing infinity armies at Sea but that metal line has not broken once yet. | ||
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eviltomahawk
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Seriously, Action is playing poorly. Making so many bad decisions suiciding into mines and engaging tank lines with too many casualties. | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 19:20 darklordjac wrote: Meching terrans take way too long to kill Suiciding zergs take way too long to win. | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:19 Tianx wrote: Sea's at a disadvantage, but this game is by no means over. Action's throwing infinity armies at Sea but that metal line has not broken once yet. It might turn around if Action's 'z' key breaks. | ||
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United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:20 pvzvt wrote: i think mines killed like 2000 worth of food count so far It would be nice if there was a mother mine we could check the KC on. :o | ||
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mizU
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On January 31 2011 19:21 okum wrote: It might turn around if Action's 'z' key breaks. LOL Action would win if Sea's "i" button breaks. | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:21 okum wrote: It might turn around if Action's 'z' key breaks. Nah, doesn't even matter. Action is being sloppy here, but he is keeping the tank count low enough so Sea can never really gain any position on tjhe map anymore. It might still take a while, but Sea will starve eventually | ||
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Monkeyshark
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On January 31 2011 19:22 mizU wrote: LOL Action would win if Sea's "i" button breaks. Action would lose if his "s" is broken ,end of discussion. | ||
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pvzvt
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if sea gets the left corner it will be over for action !! but i doubt action will let that happen | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:22 Lann555 wrote: Nah, doesn't even matter. Action is being sloppy here, but he is keeping the tank count low enough so Sea can never really gain any position on tjhe map anymore. It might still take a while, but Sea will starve eventually Actually at the rate Action is throwing food at mines, Action might starve LOLs | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:24 Roffles wrote: Sea might actually win this game if he can secure the lower left bases. I can't believe my eyes, but it seems Sea might actually get back in this. Action...Action....Action... . | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:25 darklordjac wrote: scv's mining from mineral patches where a hatchery is makes me lol Was* | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:24 mizU wrote: Actually at the rate Action is throwing food at mines, Action might starve LOLs Ye, I can't believe this. It was like 7 bases vs 2 not too long ago. Sea with a large mechball now thouggh and seems like he will lock the bottom left | ||
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mizU
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It's not very effective. | ||
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pvzvt
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sea has the left corner meaning they are on equal ground and maybe sea is in the lead now dont know too bizar match fir me to know | ||
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Lann555
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Crap, so many tanks in bottom left now and Action seems to be running out of steam | ||
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Roffles
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ROFL | ||
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Holgerius
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On January 31 2011 19:27 okum wrote: WTF is this It's Terran. | ||
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NicksonReyes
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"WHY ISN'T THIS OVER YET!". Go Sea!!! | ||
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flamewheel
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Did Sea win this? | ||
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smileyyy
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BeaTeR
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Monkeyshark
United States406 Posts
Sea defends his way into victory TERRAN POWER | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:17 okum wrote: You people who think Sea has had any chance during the last 10 minutes should count the bases... (yes, it's ok for a zerg on 8 bases to throw away units). Hi. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3999 Posts
now, if you excuse me, i need to go and throw up. | ||
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ShaSKiRa
Australia344 Posts
wow ... | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
Wow. | ||
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Serbia1690 Posts
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
sea u baller all those guys saying he was stubborn | ||
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United States8841 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
sea with an invincible defence, so awesome | ||
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Canada2231 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
Dam Yum Bo Sung is good. | ||
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mizU
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MEGA RECOMMENDED LOLS | ||
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United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:28 GTR wrote: are you seareal. Oh... I lold. | ||
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:28 GTR wrote: are you seareal. This gets my Seal of approval. ![[image loading]](http://www.freewebs.com/mistysocean/seel.gif) And a Seel. | ||
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Hungary2735 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
That was before Action got even worse. | ||
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Ryo
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To think Sea was so tempted to gg when those mutas killed all the SCVs in his nat. | ||
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United States406 Posts
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Poland366 Posts
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Germany772 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Australia3596 Posts
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United States1196 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:28 mizU wrote: BEST. GAME. OF. THE. YEAR. MEGA RECOMMENDED LOLS it was a nice comeback tahts for sure but it just shows how bad action is vs mech...he gave it away so badly | ||
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United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:29 Ryo wrote: Sloppy but amazing. To think Sea was so tempted to gg when those mutas killed all the SCVs in his nat. Yeah, you could tell in his face he was ready to give up. | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
stop spamming voltures sea now i know lol well played by sea very dissapointed from "swarm master" action | ||
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Canada8031 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
So sloppy. It was like Flash vs Jaedong, but sloppy. Very, very sloppy. Plz send out Flash and end the night. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
Acton looked far more promising a couple of months ago | ||
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United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:30 TRAP[yoo] wrote: it was a nice comeback tahts for sure but it just shows how bad action is vs mech...he gave it away so badly Well. Just mines and tanks really. It was like he was playing Zerg as... Protoss. Really few drops, and he thinks he can just run his army into a tank line. | ||
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Ryo
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On January 31 2011 19:30 LLXC wrote: If Action didn't suicide so much into mines, he would have easily won this game...wow It's not easy though, zerg has to control so much shit | ||
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mnesthes
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Well... That didn't go very well. | ||
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United Kingdom2242 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:31 Malinor wrote: I missed the first 15 minutes of the game, probably the reason I am not that surprised. If you just watched the second half, you just see a zerg throwing stuff at a mech-line for 15 minutes without breaking it. May have been 7 vs 3 bases, but Action missed that gigantic 10minute timimg window where he would just have needed to stop 3 and 6 from going up and starving Sea out.. But instead he tried to break the middle for unknown reasons. Acton looked far more promising a couple of months ago In the beginning Sea failed an 8 Rax, then lost his entire army in a failed sunken break and proceeded to lose a loooooot of SCVs to muta harassment. It's amazing that he ended up winning that. Fantastic turtling by Sea. | ||
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Germany609 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:28 HopLight wrote: Ok, so apparently Action has one of the best hive game vs bio but one of the worst vs mech? Seems so. Those defilers seemed completely useless to me, plus he let them die way too easily all the time, Sea didn't even have to irriadiate them. I wondered why Action didn't make more use of plague at all instead of using useless dark swarms. He started with some good drops on the tanks, but stopped doing so later (sent in empty overlords?). I really like Action and hope he gets better results, but he really could have won that game easily. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:31 Ryo wrote: It's not easy though, zerg has to control so much shit Well, if you know there are mines, you can still run a few zerglings in first. Instead of your whole fxcking army. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Oh wait just KT but saw Violet when I tabbed over ~_~ | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2392 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:32 Monkeyshark wrote: Seriously though guys. From what I saw, action never have much units and he had 5 base to make them from(when the mech transition happened) WHAT KIND OF MACRO IS THAT? I'm pretty sure Action's macro was fine that game. | ||
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Philippines4431 Posts
Flash 3-Kil!!! | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:32 hellbound wrote: Was I the only one shouting GO MUTA at the screen? I think we have a new minesweeper zerg.... He's not gonna get a very high score either... | ||
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Germany487 Posts
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:33 mizU wrote: Well, if you know there are mines, you can still run a few zerglings in first. Instead of your whole fxcking army. He seemed to rally point his hatcheries to wherever he thought mines were | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:31 Turbovolver wrote: Is there a reason he didn't even try a muta switch? Ninja guardians all up in Sea's factories? Desctruction of as many tanks with 12 mutas, even if they do get irradiated? Surprise guardian switch has been tried many times and it basically never, ever, ever works. There was a period when everyone was like "GO GUARDIANS" and then a lot of zergs did (Kwanro, Calm, Jaedong) and lost every single game and then everyone said "LOL WHY ARE YOU GOING GUARDIANS." It seems like a good idea, but it's just too easy for Terran to irradiate them or get literally *a* wraith. That said, it's may have been a better idea than A-moving into mines over and over and over and over again. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:32 Holgerius wrote: In the beginning Sea failed an 8 Rax, then lost his entire army in a failed sunken break and proceeded to lose a loooooot of SCVs to muta harassment. It's amazing that he ended up winning that. Fantastic turtling by Sea. Thanks for the summary But that actually makes Action even look worse, lol. And we all know that Sea knows how to mech, he played this out really nice, no doubt about that. | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:32 Monkeyshark wrote: Seriously though guys. From what I saw, action never have much units and he had 5 base to make them from(when the mech transition happened) WHAT KIND OF MACRO IS THAT? he had plenty of forces waiting in the middle of the map while each time u see sea's reinforcements there were like 2 tanks its just action suicided 90 % of his forces into mines and the rest got erased by the tanks he made no plans on attacking smartly but just a moved the forces there were like 6 or 7 moments where action forces passed sea's forces without attacking not saying its easy but hey if u cant control 8 bases why take them | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:34 Hier wrote: Too much unreasonably harsh criticism towards Action from our local "experts" here. I don't think it was unreasonable. I think most people know that running your army into mines... is generally a bad idea. | ||
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United States8841 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:34 Hier wrote: Too much unreasonably harsh criticism towards Action from our local "experts" here. Nothing is too harsh. He was a zerg with a supply LEAD going into hivetech. He had completely crippled Sea with his mutas and had such a ridiculous advantage going in that nothing short of playing several leagues lower than his opponent was going to change that. And that's what he did. | ||
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United States406 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:35 pvzvt wrote: he had plenty of forces waiting in the middle of the map while each time u see sea's reinforcements there were like 2 tanks its just action suicided 90 % of his forces into mines and the rest got erased by the tanks he made no plans on attacking smartly but just a moved the forces there were like 6 or 7 moments where action forces passed sea's forces without attacking not saying its easy but hey if u cant control 8 bases why take them No man, from what I saw each time he had around like 50 supply in his rally point in the middle then he go suicide them and decide to make 50 more then repeat. | ||
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thestool91
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And I'm not being biased but as a zerg user, we all can agree that its rare for zerg to have a "han-bang push" compared to a terran. As zerg, you have to keep riding your advantage and keep winning multiple battles, whereas for protoss and terran against zerg, one good battle means that you can win from it. I hope I'm not the only zerg player that rides a huge advantage until a few misclicks and you're done :p. My suggestion is that he could have harassed the 3 and the 530 way more in the beginning. Before the vults were up, if only action sent ling harass to those expos sea would have gone insane and gged. But no, action wanted to show off his late game defiler usage and lost. | ||
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Hier
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On January 31 2011 19:35 mizU wrote: I don't think it was unreasonable. I think most people know that running your army into mines... is generally a bad idea. Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
If you're going to drop something with swarm to delay/take out bases. make it lings and lurkers, not ultras:O | ||
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Monkeyshark
United States406 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:37 Holgerius wrote: I wanna see Stats snipe Sea. Save Stats for light so it's easier for him and just play Flash. | ||
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New Zealand1065 Posts
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Romania452 Posts
On the other hand Sea played really good despite his failures early game. All in all I feel like Action should have finished this game early with mass muta, Sea didn't even have a starport until very late. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:38 Hier wrote: Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them. Oh yeah I know you usually use zerglings to defuse mines. But ultras and hydras... aren't such a good idea. | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:38 Hier wrote: Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them. What about minesweeping with lurkers and defilers? | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:38 Hier wrote: Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them. play hydra muta instead of ultras? | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:38 Hier wrote: Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them. Some zerglings are fine, but not your whole army over and over. | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:37 Holgerius wrote: I wanna see Stats snipe Sea. Thanks coach.  | ||
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pylonsalad
Canada649 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:33 mizU wrote: Well, if you know there are mines, you can still run a few zerglings in first. Instead of your whole fxcking army. You know what often happens when you run a few zerglings first? They get shot by vultures and tanks before defusing any mines. Action's weakness is large army control. That's the difference between a top zerg like Zero or Jaedong and lower tier zergs like Action. Action didn't even need to take it to late game. He could have ended the game with mutas if he decided not to switch to lurkers/hive tech. Sea's tech was so late mass mutas would have ended it before Sea could take a 3rd. | ||
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On January 31 2011 19:39 darklordjac wrote: Some zerglings are fine, but not your whole army over and over. That depends on the amount of mines that are on the field. | ||
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thestool91
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On January 31 2011 19:38 thestool91 wrote: I think the problem was that action let sea eat up the 4 bases so easily. And I'm not being biased but as a zerg user, we all can agree that its rare for zerg to have a "han-bang push" compared to a terran. As zerg, you have to keep riding your advantage and keep winning multiple battles, whereas for protoss and terran against zerg, one good battle means that you can win from it. I hope I'm not the only zerg player that rides a huge advantage until a few misclicks and you're done :p. My suggestion is that he could have harassed the 3 and the 530 way more in the beginning. Before the vults were up, if only action sent ling harass to those expos sea would have gone insane and gged. But no, action wanted to show off his late game defiler usage and lost. can anyone also agree that those drops were really weak? either a defiler and like an ultra or a control group of lings. If only action was more composed and went for bigger drops in the expos i think he could have had it. | ||
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United States8841 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:40 StylishVODs wrote: Action made so many "arrogant" mistakes. The first ultralisk attack was one of the biggest. He was hive tech in supply lead and he threw away his first 5-6 ultras when Sea's army wasn't even spread. Maybe he didn't know about the mechswitch but once he saw it he should have turned back, something action never did all game long. His opponent was floating his barracks all over the map. He was very aware. | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
and what do you expect 8 bases drones take supply as well his macro was good from what i've seen its just most of them died to mines so many mines props for sea to refilling them with new ones | ||
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Monkeyshark
United States406 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:38 Hier wrote: Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them. Was in one of the best position he can get with his opening. He ran hydra and ULTRALISK into mines. He let sea set up the 4th base with gas without any HARASSMENT until it was set up with some units. Didn't macro to a big army and keep on suicide his little troops into mines and tank hits before they can actually combat. | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:40 thestool91 wrote: can anyone also agree that those drops were really weak? either a defiler and like an ultra or a control group of lings. If only action was more composed and went for bigger drops in the expos i think he could have had it. I was disappointed that Action didn't go for the production facilities until way too late. Lurker/ling/defiler could have done wonders at the factories anytime between 20-35 minutes, especially since Sea was defending at the front every time *just barely* with reinforcing tanks at the back. | ||
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Australia14949 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
seas shop is spinning, | ||
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Canada2231 Posts
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United States406 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:44 Tianx wrote: I was disappointed that Action didn't go for the production facilities until way too late. Lurker/ling/defiler could have done wonders at the factories anytime between 20-35 minutes, especially since Sea was defending at the front every time *just barely* with reinforcing tanks at the back. Seriously, did he not like the idea of doom drop? There was only a few turret at the natural where he can sack a few empty overlord and make a doom drop. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
sea retreats for now | ||
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Doraemon
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gets scouted by obs | ||
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United States2821 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:49 Tianx wrote: Stats manages to not pull a Stork and lose both bases to one dropship. And now the Stork jokes begin... lolz | ||
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Australia14949 Posts
clearing mines with goons | ||
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Watch and learn Bisu. | ||
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0/1 ups | ||
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Doraemon
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On January 31 2011 19:55 Scaramanga wrote: Stats has this game pretty much wrapped up at this point, epic harras defence bit too early? | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:55 Scaramanga wrote: Stats has this game pretty much wrapped up at this point, epic harras defence ?? stats is defending well but seas manages to get some probes here and there | ||
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Crunchums
United States11143 Posts
2 ht killed by a mine just before they were about to merge, heh | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
3 kill in the progress although the last opponent may be a bit tougher | ||
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pvzvt
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since he has a fuck ton of voltures at 3-3 upgrades or 3-2- cant tell | ||
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Australia14949 Posts
stats needs really good stasis and storms to break through | ||
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United States406 Posts
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Australia14949 Posts
stats just got out macroed | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:09 Tianx wrote: Well, look on the bright side: Flash gets to 3-kill against MBC and take back his rightful power rank spot. at number 3? *nods* i'm looking forward to Light vs Flash (if it gets there) | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
Well played by Stats, but he just couldn't come back.... ARGH 2 game losing streak | ||
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Philippines3615 Posts
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Ryo
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xarthaz
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:55 Scaramanga wrote: Stats has this game pretty much wrapped up at this point, epic harras defence yer...spoken too early, just like okum last game | ||
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Monkeyshark
United States406 Posts
On January 31 2011 20:09 Tianx wrote: Well, look on the bright side: Flash gets to 3-kill against MBC and take back his rightful power rank spot. Light could kill him again, if kt wanted to play it correctly then they should played flash then if flash loses to light then stats can come out.... oh well I'm not a coach so I wouldn't know better then them. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2392 Posts
On January 31 2011 20:09 Doraemon wrote: stats just got out macroed Like are you suggesting Stats didn't click on his gateways fast enough? That he was banking 1k/1k? His expansion timings were off? "outmacroed" is a meaningless term to throw around by itself, and it gets abused far more than relatively harmless stuff like "metagame". I know I'm sick of it. | ||
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Philippines4431 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
(does anyone really expect Flash to lose?) | ||
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United States379 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 31 2011 20:10 Holgerius wrote: Very impressive Sea. His TvP is so damn scary when he's playing his A-game. Too bad he never seems to bring his A game to the Starleagues. | ||
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New Zealand1065 Posts
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
On January 31 2011 20:12 Roffles wrote: Too bad he never seems to bring his A game to the Starleagues. lol so true | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On January 31 2011 20:11 Lann555 wrote: Well played. I want to congratulate KT on a hard-fought 4-3 victory and MBC on making the most of this series. (does anyone really expect Flash to lose?) Sea and Light (will probably last an hour each), Yeah. + Show Spoiler + But He is God EDIT: I forgot about JAEHOON!!! O_o | ||
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United States379 Posts
On January 31 2011 20:13 NicksonReyes wrote: Sea and Light (will probably last an hour each), Yeah. + Show Spoiler + But He is God God has carpal tunnel. | ||
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pvzvt
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On January 31 2011 20:11 Monkeyshark wrote: Light could kill him again, if kt wanted to play it correctly then they should played flash then if flash loses to light then stats can come out.... oh well I'm not a coach so I wouldn't know better then them. by sending flash first u cant avoid the light vs flash circumstance by sending him last u let other players get some experience + sometimes avoid light vs flash which is still a very favorite flash win just not as much as any other player he may face in mbc team | ||
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God says "carpal tunnel wut?" | ||
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He does not. He just said his wrist is hurt. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:13 Holgerius wrote: Wait, I totally forgot that Hyun already won a game. Flash has to come out now. :O i thought u were just being cynical when u said let reach play lol of course its flash time | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:16 Holgerius wrote: This will be tough for Flash. Sea is playing beautifully today. =/ Not during the first 10 minutes against Action. Maybe that was just a warm-up, though. Hopefully, Flash can win this ez pz. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:15 Lann555 wrote: Wonder who the last player for MBC will be? Will they trrust Jaehoon with their fate again?? I'd send Tyson over Jaehoon, probably. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:16 Holgerius wrote: This will be tough for Flash. Sea is playing beautifully today. =/ Played like garbage the first half of the match vs Action. Action just repaid him back by playing twice as poorly during the second half. | ||
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No Jaehoon has the better PvT. Tyson's best matchup is PvP. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:18 Ryo wrote: No Jaehoon has the better PvT. Tyson's best matchup is PvP. Hence my choice of words. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:18 Ryo wrote: No Jaehoon has the better PvT. Tyson's best matchup is PvP. lol we should have more faith in Sea and Light to close it before the last match. | ||
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No way man, Jaehoon is a certified PvT sniper with an 0-3 record against Flash. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:17 darklordjac wrote: come on sea you can take on flash, he only has like a 75% tvt winrate but thats fine you got this I think you mean 92.31% tvt winrate. | ||
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He lost to light once he can lose to him again | ||
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Actually regardless this is still going to be ridiculous. Whatever going to bed, tests soon and blah blah. LR nicely now people--your thoughts will matter. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:19 Monkeyshark wrote: lol we should have more faith in Sea and Light to close it before the last match. Lets be realistic about Sea's chances http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=108&part=games&league=standard&vs=T#tblt-6710-1-default-0-flash | ||
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I think you mean 72.87% TvT winrate | ||
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pvzvt
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flash will come and slay 3 players with ease making it look easy too many times i've seen this happen its like watching one of those movies where the hero is slaying the bad guys dodging bullets and all that shit only to end up facing a wall ... and ,,,,THE END unless u look at it from the wall point of view (flASH) but thats like superman arresting bank robbers with the occasional lex luther with kryptonite (light) lol i'm sp stoned | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:20 Lann555 wrote: Lets be realistic about Sea's chances http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=108&part=games&league=standard&vs=T#tblt-6710-1-default-0-flash Don't you know there's first for everything? | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:23 Holgerius wrote: Awww, Flash is so cute. Who needs Bisu and Zero? | ||
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pvzvt
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at least 2 games of potential of over 45 minutes | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:20 Lann555 wrote: Lets be realistic about Sea's chances http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=108&part=games&league=standard&vs=T#tblt-6710-1-default-0-flash LOL)))) gogog SEA! | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:27 daskilla wrote: I dont understand all this winrate discussion... It's common knowlage that past events don't influrance what happens in present. Revelant factors that determines chances to win are current form, overall skill etc, but not past winrate. Flash's winrate in the last month is a good way to determine current form. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:28 radialis wrote: are the computer sounds me or fedor's? fedor's | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:27 daskilla wrote: I dont understand all this winrate discussion... It's common knowlage that past events don't influrance what happens in present. Revelant factors that determines chances to win are current form, overall skill etc, but not past winrate. and how do you know overall skill? voodoo? | ||
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they're really really loud compared to the stream :/ | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:29 oneofthem wrote: and how do you know overall skill? voodoo? You don't know, that's the point! Nobody can predict result of the game. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:31 daskilla wrote: You don't know, that's the point! Nobody can predict result of the game. But you can make quite accurate guesses off winrate | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:36 radadaundandan wrote: Flash so offensive! No, Flash only turtles. | ||
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lol wouldn't be nice if it backfires though, hope it does not | ||
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Yeah you call non stop harass turtling? ZOMG | ||
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thats like the 4th time | ||
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did sea scan the 3 port? | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:33 darklordjac wrote: But you can make quite accurate guesses off winrate Yes, you can guess if you like. But comparing lifetime TvT between players I will not call accurate guess. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:38 radadaundandan wrote: Yeah you call non stop harass turtling? ZOMG you did not get the message | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:43 Kirb wrote: So sea has an advantage right? God i want wo watch this so badly. >-< I'd say Flash has a small edge due to his fortified position in the middle. I suck at reading TvT though so take it with a grain of salt | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:39 daskilla wrote: Yes, you can guess if you like. But comparing lifetime TvT between players I will not call accurate guess. Wait what, flash has never lost to sea. How is it not an accurate guess to go with the 100% win rate of flash. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:43 Kirb wrote: So sea has an advantage right? God i want to watch this so badly. >-< It's hard to say. Sea is pushing at the top of the line and making headway, but Flash looks to be +1 base and has better position. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:43 Kirb wrote: So sea has an advantage right? God i want to watch this so badly. >-< Sea has more units, Flash has more bases but Sea is trying to get another base so... TvTs are weird though, who knows. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:44 radadaundandan wrote: Flash hidihg his physics bay with an engeneering bay! I've always wondered how that could work. You don't lift your ebay exactly on the physics lab by mistake. Unless he wants to make Sea think he's going BC while he's not. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:47 nepeta wrote: Flash should try ops instead of labs someday, how scary would it be to be playing him and hear "nuclear launch detected"?  sKyHigh says hi | ||
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must take one more base! | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:48 oBlade wrote: It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by their knowledge of siege tanks, but by their skill with battlecruisers. May the science vessels be with them. | ||
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mb some nukes to counter? | ||
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so frustrating playing with him is like trying to cheat death | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:51 Lann555 wrote: Flash gets the better of the BC pew-pew wars. Also seems to have the economic lead so I think he got it in the bag now he also has 2:2 ship weapons while sea seems to just have 1:1 Edit: Yes im a zergling | ||
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talk about commisars !! | ||
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IT"S FLASH OF COURSE. GGGGGGGG FROM SEA | ||
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jaehoon next i reckon | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:44 darklordjac wrote: Wait what, flash has never lost to sea. How is it not an accurate guess to go with the 100% win rate of flash. 100% winrate means ONLY that Flash is favorite. | ||
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The last battlecruiser battle looked even right until the very end, but in the span of 3 seconds Sea lost ALL his bcs. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:54 Doraemon wrote: Nah, Light first, then Jaehoon. Jaehoon has a better chance against Flash, I think, what with his PvT prowess.jaehoon next i reckon | ||
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Thought Flash was gonna fuck it up and lose to Valks like in MSL, but he managed to avoid that failure. Too bad he had to play such a long game though, considering his wrist problems. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:55 pvzvt wrote: is this bogus vs frozen? Frozen and bogus are in the same team man. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:55 pvzvt wrote: is this bogus vs frozen? lol wut | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:55 pvzvt wrote: is this bogus vs frozen? teamkills in proleague? :D baby vs frozen | ||
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my bad realized that after anyway frozen vs? | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:56 pvzvt wrote: oups my bad realized that after anyway frozen vs? ???????????? | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:56 pvzvt wrote: oups my bad realized that after anyway frozen vs? BaBy | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:54 kuroshiroi wrote: Nah, Light first, then Jaehoon. Jaehoon has a better chance against Flash, I think, what with his PvT prowess. Light actually has a better shot of winning against Flash than Jaehoon. Jaehoon is 0-4 against Flash, while Light is 2-6, with both wins in the last 6 months. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:57 Goragoth wrote: Lol, Flash literally does the same thing every TvT and every Terran let's him get away with it like a complete dumbass. He figures out what he needs to do to get 1 more expo than his opponent and then wins because he has more resources. Isn't that how you're meant to win in all econ heavy RTS games lol. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:57 Goragoth wrote: Lol, Flash literally does the same thing every TvT and every Terran let's him get away with it like a complete dumbass. He figures out what he needs to do to get 1 more expo than his opponent and then wins because he has more resources. You're giving flash a too little credit...he has obscene game sense and can take that extra expo without losing to timing pushes while keeping the pressure on his opponent.... | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:58 Musou wrote: Light actually has a better shot of winning against Flash than Jaehoon. Jaehoon is 0-4 against Flash, while Light is 2-6, with both wins in the last 6 months. I'd say the choice will mainly rely on the map order, and which one practised most on which. We'll see. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:57 Goragoth wrote: Lol, Flash literally does the same thing every TvT and every Terran let's him get away with it like a complete dumbass. He figures out what he needs to do to get 1 more expo than his opponent and then wins because he has more resources. Holy fuck do you have a simplistic way of looking at things... | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:59 corumjhaelen wrote: I'd say the choice will mainly rely on the map order, and which one practised most on which. We'll see. I agree. Both maps are relatively balanced for both TvT and PvT. But it looks like Light is out first. Edit: I just remembered what Flash did to Best on Fortress. If Light doesn't pull through, this could be ugly for Jaehoon/MBC. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:57 Goragoth wrote: Lol, Flash literally does the same thing every TvT and every Terran let's him get away with it like a complete dumbass. He figures out what he needs to do to get 1 more expo than his opponent and then wins because he has more resources. “Scoring more points than your opponent is the key to winning those tough games.” - John Madden | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:00 Holgerius wrote: Holy fuck do you have a simplistic way of looking at things... If only the other players knew about this trick fact is, it was a long game but flash was never in any trouble he had this game after the early contains pretty much. | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:01 Katsuge wrote: Hey, don't mess with the Hoon, he's 7-1 in PvT this season.looks like jaehoon is the last boss o_O | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:02 StylishVODs wrote: If only the other players knew about this trick I think I'm gonna go to Korea and start owning shit up now that I know about it. :D | ||
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Then again, he is Flash etc. | ||
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On January 31 2011 20:57 Goragoth wrote: Lol, Flash literally does the same thing every TvT and every Terran let's him get away with it like a complete dumbass. He figures out what he needs to do to get 1 more expo than his opponent and then wins because he has more resources. Yeah, they just let him get away with it. They don't have the uncanny insight that you have that produces profound breakthroughs like having 1 base more than your opponent will guide you to victory. It's not that they often times (but not always, recalling Flash's 5 game ace TvT loss streak) get outplayed over the course of a game while trying to beat Flash using the same methods. It's that they let him get away with it. | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:01 Tianx wrote: “Scoring more points than your opponent is the key to winning those tough games.” - John Madden Look, I know that it is stupidly obvious that you win with more bases. That's my point. So many of these pro players have all the mechanics and little cutesy tactics down but still seem to miss this this little fact in many of their games. Flash is one of the few that really understands this well and it is key to his high win percentage. | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:02 mnesthes wrote: Hey, don't mess with the Hoon, he's 7-1 in PvT this season. he's a choker. so he wont give MBC a win | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:03 kuroshiroi wrote: Koreans believe in PvT imba, obviously Jaehoon is last. He's also 8-1 since the start of the new season and if Light and Sea manage to tire Flash out, Jaehoon should be able to clean up. Then again, he is Flash etc. Also, Light hates Fortress. | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:01 Katsuge wrote: looks like jaehoon is the last boss o_O more like last pion | ||
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Noted. Incidentally, the Hoon is 3-0 on Fortress in PvT. | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:04 Savant wrote: He's probably hiding it under his sleeves.Anyone notice Flash isn't seen with his ruler anymore? Glad the coaches upgraded range finders for his sensor array. | ||
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Light is like: :OOOOOOO | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:12 StylishVODs wrote: the hell? the HOON | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:13 Tianx wrote: I don't think Flash even researched siege that game. Did he even have a shop? Apparently he skipped siege for more tanks. | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:14 kuroshiroi wrote: Did he even have a shop? Apparently he skipped siege for more tanks. How do you build tanks without a shop? | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:14 kuroshiroi wrote: Did he even have a shop? Apparently he skipped siege for more tanks. Hard to make tanks without a machine shop | ||
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Doh! | ||
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I'm getting hungry. | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:17 fallingdream wrote: I went to eat so I can have energy for the next TvT and possible TvP and when I come back I see Light going :OO and than gg, can I just ask, WAD. Can I just say: Flash. | ||
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hellbound
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On January 31 2011 21:18 WaZuP wrote: I dont understand how you can get hungry if you see this "girl" eating :X You realise you are not eating? | ||
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LV_426
Poland432 Posts
this is some kind of fetish? Watching eating ppl's ? ps. im gonna puke | ||
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trucane
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On January 31 2011 21:16 StylishVODs wrote: jaehoon is 10-2 PvT in the last ten wins, and probably practiced to snipe flash, I hope it's going to be a good game then!! Wow really? Since when did Jaehoon get good at PvT? I always remember him as one of if not the worst PvT player, still can't forget about his hilarious set vs FBH. I'm not saying your wrong i'm just surprised haven't been able to watch a lot of PL lately | ||
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On January 31 2011 21:17 fallingdream wrote: I went to eat so I can have energy for the next TvT and possible TvP and when I come back I see Light going :OO and than gg, can I just ask, WAD. Flash got sick of people trying to tire him out or soemthing and steamrolled light before siegemode. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:19 Breach_hu wrote: she is eating like a fucken pig wow......thats torture to anyone who sees it. | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:21 Holgerius wrote: Flash vs Jaehoon it is. Jaehoon is indeed looking really good lately (smashed the OSL winner :D), so he will probably be able to put up a good fight. Holy shit when did this happen? | ||
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Sweden5331 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:19 Holgerius wrote: I want to rewatch Flash vs Light, that follow-up to Rax FE seemed ridiculously powerful. and light even managed to sneak his 5th after the rax went down | ||
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:21 Breach_hu wrote: shark's voice is so fresh~ Shark? You mean the Shark is commentating in this game?! Awesome! Though i dont really know how he sounds like. | ||
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Fts
Sweden369 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:21 BLinD-RawR wrote: wow......thats torture to anyone who sees it. I wouldent call that kind of food easy to eat with style though | ||
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structuralinertia
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:22 Black[CAT] wrote: Shark? You mean the Shark is commentating in this game?! Awesome! Though i dont really know how he sounds like. i think he speaks a lot, so he is not like a quiet 3rd. | ||
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Bill Murray
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On January 31 2011 21:22 zmeqt wrote: Either way this is going to be hilarious!Either JH fails hilariously or he wins with some kind of miracle which will also be hilarious. qft jaehoon as ace hilarious ace is hilarious | ||
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tabula rasa
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What other people are thinking: Focus on macroing and hold off Flash's forces until I can gain a better economy. What Flash is thinking: Kick his ass. | ||
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OH FLASH | ||
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Australia8090 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:31 mnesthes wrote: what the hell Flash underestimating your opponent like that Deep 6 is a completely viable option, specially if the other guy is going 2 base arbs :\ | ||
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United States1196 Posts
That was beautiful. | ||
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France4120 Posts
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Australia14949 Posts
ktflash gogo | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
Guess when he saw fats DTs he thought no obs, he won't be ready... Plus guessing the two base arbiters. Impressive stuff. | ||
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mnesthes
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Oshit JH ggs noooooooo Jaehoon nooooo | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
This is so fucking bad, So unbelievable bad play. You don't need a deep six to break that, any normal attack would do. Just in case, I am not a Flahs hater, I just can't believe what Jaehoon just played. | ||
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KTF_CloaK
Netherlands1338 Posts
I miss Violet... | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
Who says Flash is boring? | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:37 NicksonReyes wrote: Flash just messed up Jaehoon's PvT record with bio. Who says Flash is boring? Man, can't you see it, he just turtled and pushed, so boriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing | ||
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Romania452 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:33 Breach_hu wrote: flash rolled jaehoon like ... argh no words can describe it. like he rolled light that was a nice build | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
He notices that Jaehoon is going for fast DTs -> Fast Arb, meaning a delayed robo, so no way Jaehoon would've scouted the marines in time, absolutely no chance for hoon to stop it even if he didn't get the 3rd base | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
Nice play from Flash. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2392 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:37 Malinor wrote: Build templar archives for 2 DTs, they accomplish nothing... yeah I'll just build a stargate and an arbiter and don't use the buildings I have just constructed. Citadell wasted, DTs wasted, Templar archives wasted. And of course I go douple expand when I don't have any scout on the terran. This is so fucking bad, So unbelievable bad play. You don't need a deep six to break that, any normal attack would do. Just in case, I am not a Flahs hater, I just can't believe what Jaehoon just played. If you have been watching recent games, turrets at the front have not come that early in a lot of recent 1rax CC games. + Show Spoiler [OSL] + See for example Fantasy's Stork-crushing builds that relied on a wraith or goliaths to deal with reavers instead of turrets. DTs that quick would have a great shot about that, I don't think scan would be done on time. I also think Jaehoon thought his success with the early zealots put Flash off more than it actually did. | ||
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France5778 Posts
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Romania452 Posts
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Musou
1375 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:46 Turbovolver wrote: If you have been watching recent games, turrets at the front have not come that early in a lot of recent 1rax CC games. + Show Spoiler [OSL] + See for example Fantasy's Stork-crushing builds that relied on a wraith or goliaths to deal with reavers instead of turrets. DTs that quick would have a great shot about that, I don't think scan would be done on time. I also think Jaehoon thought his success with the early zealots put Flash off more than it actually did. He didn't actually have that much success with the early zealots either. He killed 2 SCVs and a marine, and spent the rest of the time running around in a circle and slowly getting whittled down. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:46 Turbovolver wrote: If you have been watching recent games, turrets at the front have not come that early in a lot of recent 1rax CC games. + Show Spoiler [OSL] + See for example Fantasy's Stork-crushing builds that relied on a wraith or goliaths to deal with reavers instead of turrets. DTs that quick would have a great shot about that, I don't think scan would be done on time. I also think Jaehoon thought his success with the early zealots put Flash off more than it actually did. I don't mind the DT's, it's always ok to try something like that. I just hated the transition out of it. Flash has like 101 different timing pushes against toss. Jaehoon's followup was just no units and don't use the tech I have already. It was just a total gamble, if flash makes any units and doesn't tech/expand, he wins. But yeah, a player like Jaehoon could only beat Flash by gambling anyways, so I shouldn't be surprised. I just think if MBC sends him out on the 7th map they may have something better to offer than this. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Reminds me of his all-star game vs Bisu. XD | ||
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United States1196 Posts
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
I don't believe there's anyone who can take him out in a Bo5 other than Fantasy. | ||
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Musou
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On January 31 2011 21:58 Caos2 wrote: Flash is recovering his form. I don't believe there's anyone who can take him out in a Bo5 other than Fantasy. I think Stork would actually have a good shot, as long as it isn't a Starleague finals. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:01 Musou wrote: I think Stork would actually have a good shot, as long as it isn't a Starleague finals. I don't think it matter if it's in a final or not, Stork has now shown plenty of times that he has a horrible mindset regarding Bo5s in general whereas that is one of Flash's strong points. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:58 Caos2 wrote: Flash is recovering his form. I don't believe there's anyone who can take him out in a Bo5 other than Fantasy. Or Jaedong, his ZvT is good enough. | ||
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mnesthes
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:06 mnesthes wrote: I guess the arguments about Flash being a boring player probably stem from the fact that whenever he doesn't turtle, the opponent usually dies immediately after the first attack, leaving no chance for resistance/retribution. Which makes his opponent boring. | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:37 Malinor wrote: Build templar archives for 2 DTs, they accomplish nothing... yeah I'll just build a stargate and an arbiter and don't use the buildings I have just constructed. Citadell wasted, DTs wasted, Templar archives wasted. And of course I go douple expand when I don't have any scout on the terran. This is so fucking bad, So unbelievable bad play. You don't need a deep six to break that, any normal attack would do. Just in case, I am not a Flahs hater, I just can't believe what Jaehoon just played. Doesn't an Arbiter Tribunal require having Templar Archives? | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:07 radialis wrote: i don't understand why everyone hates flash... i thought that was a pretty good show from him There are always people who hate those at the top. In Flash's case, a lot of it comes from his reputation first as a cheeser, and then as a turtler. He's been mixing it up quite a bit though, so those reasons are pretty much invalid these days. On January 31 2011 22:13 hns wrote: Doesn't an Arbiter Tribunal require having Templar Archives? Yes, it does. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:13 hns wrote: Doesn't an Arbiter Tribunal require having Templar Archives? It does. My point was that it should have been used for storms before arbiter or the citadel for building a bulk of speed-zealots. And before someone explains to me how 2base arbiters work, I realldy don't need to. I am still completely underwhelmed how you go 2base arbiters without observers, no speed zlots, no scouting information, no templars and already building your 3rd and 4th nexus somewhere on the map while you have like 8-10 goons and 2 DTs. And all of this on Fortress in close positions. | ||
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Bulgaria164 Posts
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Sypuku
Russian Federation20 Posts
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
Jaehoon had no eco. Goon massing from 2 base arb - would be gg anyway. Mass expos were tiny chance to score a win. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On January 31 2011 23:05 Sypuku wrote: Now all ELO Peaks belong to Flash! That is just sick! | ||
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zenMaster
Canada761 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 23:05 Sypuku wrote: Now all ELO Peaks belong to Flash! No they don't. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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POWEROUTAGE
Singapore884 Posts
Can't wait to watch Flash's deepsex on vod | ||
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trexbqs
Malaysia1731 Posts
KT wins again :D by Action and 3 kills from Flash. Congratz :D | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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Sypuku
Russian Federation20 Posts
No they don't. LOL I couldn't imagine that Jaehoon costs so low ))) | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:41 Malinor wrote: It does. My point was that it should have been used for storms before arbiter or the citadel for building a bulk of speed-zealots. And before someone explains to me how 2base arbiters work, I realldy don't need to. I am still completely underwhelmed how you go 2base arbiters without observers, no speed zlots, no scouting information, no templars and already building your 3rd and 4th nexus somewhere on the map while you have like 8-10 goons and 2 DTs. And all of this on Fortress in close positions. Getting storm before Arbiters would have left him unable to expand for a huge time, and even if storm was out, he couldn't cover more than his main/nat, and end up being contained. Flash would then be on three bases, and a Terran with more bases than Protoss would be devastating. Once Arbiters are out, expansions are safe from tank based armies, and if the Terran attacks then stasis and recall punish that harshly. So instead of conceding a late-game advantage to Flash, he made a gamble that Flash wouldn't strike before he could get map control, or would opt for harassment. tl;dr: Jaehoon gambled on DTs, lost, and was forced to gamble again in order to not give Flash a superior economy. Flash knew he would do that and curbstomped him. | ||
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Germany4221 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On February 01 2011 00:14 letian wrote: Its just ridiculous, with all PR and other stuff, well Flash is god of sc, Im saying it as a deep JD fan, no storkes bisus or anything can match him, he is just ultimate weapon, damn! I remember when I felt the same way about JD. May that time happen yet again!! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
On January 31 2011 23:12 zenMaster wrote: KTFlash strikes again! Isn't that argument invalid in the Winner's League? | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
I really hope that he proves me wrong, but he has most certainly not lived up to my expectations thus far. Is someone doing the interviews btw? :D | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:37 Malinor wrote: Build templar archives for 2 DTs, they accomplish nothing... yeah I'll just build a stargate and an arbiter and don't use the buildings I have just constructed. Citadell wasted, DTs wasted, Templar archives wasted. And of course I go douple expand when I don't have any scout on the terran. This is so fucking bad, So unbelievable bad play. You don't need a deep six to break that, any normal attack would do. Just in case, I am not a Flahs hater, I just can't believe what Jaehoon just played. I don't think you know wat ur talking about. 2 Base arbiter is a ridiculously strong build against almost all terran builds. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
On February 01 2011 01:33 SubtleArt wrote: I don't think you know wat ur talking about. 2 Base arbiter is a ridiculously strong build against almost all terran builds. This is not about 2base arbiter, it is about that game and the decisions Jaehoon made based on what happend in that game. Like someone on this page said, he basically took several gambles in a row. When Flash moved out with his deep six, the tanks alone would have nearly been enough to kill Jaehoon. Basically any attack at this time or within the next 3 minutes would have killed Jaehoon no matter which build Flash would choose. Jaehoons decision-making was awful, that's all I am saying (and it is actually no surprise to say something like this about Jaehoon, even when he has a nice streak going) . But really, I am not discussing 2 base arbiters here. | ||
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On February 01 2011 00:45 BLinD-RawR wrote: Isn't that argument invalid in the Winner's League? hey, flash has lost once already in winners league! i think kt maybe would have lost this without flash;-) so sad to see that hoejja still is next in line when violet aint there. i think suny or barracks would have done better... | ||
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Graham
Canada1259 Posts
On February 01 2011 01:54 Heimatloser wrote: so sad to see that hoejja still is next in line when violet aint there. i think suny or barracks would have done better... Exactly what I was about to say. Hoejja imo is a lost cause and they should really consider playing other plays like Tempest, Suny, Barracks, etc. Even playing Reach/Yellow would be awesome. It sucks to see though that apart from Flash/Stats/Violet and uncommonly Action, KT doesn't really have many rookies/other players who can win on a somewhat common basis. Suny, Anyppi, Hoejja, Tempest, and Barracks are all on 4-5+ game losing streaks. ;___; | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On February 01 2011 01:59 Graham wrote: Exactly what I was about to say. Hoejja imo is a lost cause and they should really consider playing other plays like Tempest, Suny, Barracks, etc. Even playing Reach/Yellow would be awesome. It sucks to see though that apart from Flash/Stats/Violet and uncommonly Action, KT doesn't really have many rookies/other players who can win on a somewhat common basis. Suny, Anyppi, Hoejja, Tempest, and Barracks are all on 4-5+ game losing streaks. ;___; Why at a time like this are KT fans putting down their players? in about 1 month we've lost ForGG and Violet, KT's lineup is suffering. In addition, Flash is still not 100% because of his wrist. The team is doing its best meanwhile (and is still undefeated). The coaching staff knows what they are doing, and if they are sending HoeJJa its either cause he is showing promising results in practice, has earned another shot in a televised match with weeks of hard work, or perhaps the others aren't doing so well. Trust in the coaches instead of putting down the players :3 | ||
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Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On February 01 2011 01:59 Graham wrote: Exactly what I was about to say. Hoejja imo is a lost cause and they should really consider playing other plays like Tempest, Suny, Barracks, etc. Even playing Reach/Yellow would be awesome. It sucks to see though that apart from Flash/Stats/Violet and uncommonly Action, KT doesn't really have many rookies/other players who can win on a somewhat common basis. Suny, Anyppi, Hoejja, Tempest, and Barracks are all on 4-5+ game losing streaks. ;___; they STILL could send out barracks, suny and anyppi in the first 3 slots since we all know that the clean-up-king will... clean up anyways. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:06 raga4ka wrote: Flash is to good to lose in TvT and TvP . It looks like it will take a top zerg playing perfect to beat him . Well there aren't many top zergs that play perfect ZvT probably only Zero JD and maybe Hydra . It's really too bad Effort retired. I would've loved to see another Bo5 between him and Flash. | ||
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jaQi
1121 Posts
All: 372-144 (72.09%) vT: 135-47 (74.18%) vZ: 123-52 (70.29%) vP: 114-45 (71.70%) WWW only and it keeps rising. No limits for flash whether you like him and his style or not, but you have to admit that he is the boss... | ||
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United States25 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
However, Action's play in game 3 still disturbs me. I'm quite disappointed on how sloppy he was, especially considering he had a decent lead during most of the game. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
flash is great.. can't wait to watch some of those VODs later. :D | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:51 Moridin wrote: Just watched the VOD with Jaehoon vs Flash. After the GG Jaehoon pop out of box and was very angry at someone from his team. Probably the one that suggested his strategy... Ya, I just rewatched it and he seemed really pissed off. O_o | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On February 01 2011 04:01 Holgerius wrote: Ya, I just rewatched it and he seemed really pissed off. O_o Yes, I saw it too. Looked like he was pointing in Pusan's direction. Probably because of the strategy, like Moridin said. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On February 01 2011 04:30 okum wrote: He said, "why did you send ME out?" Or "why did you make me captain"? I think that was mistake, just like making Zero Woongjin captain was a mistake. These players don't cope well with too much pressure. But then again the coaches should know Jaehoon well. I hope so anyway. | ||
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Germany29 Posts
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Kazakhstan4130 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
flash vs light was the lulz -.- | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
i was actually rooting for Sea, and he won a game where he shouldn't have won. Sea was really behind early game, and then he transitioned to Mech, and Mech won him the game. Mines raped everything, mass Tanks owned whatever leftover. All Sea did was turtle+defend while Action lay out amazing plagues, drops, swarms, flanks. In the past, TvZ was not really imba because 4 gas Zerg with Ultras + Defilers eat bio, and T has hard time dealing with it. But now that they've adapted to it by going late game mech, there is literally nothing Zergs can do. Even the korean commentator was like "Terran imba!" lol. Not to take anything from Sea though, he defended beautifully | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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lastmotion
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zyzski
United States698 Posts
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LastActionHero
Germany29 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/soflyflash30fy5xslb.jpg) Bonjwa! | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
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Hellwitch
Canada272 Posts
Flash was there to clean up the mess because  Stats is on a losing streak and since fOrGG and Violet are unavaible, there's not a lot of players to send out. | ||
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kidcrash
United States620 Posts
On February 01 2011 06:43 lastmotion wrote: did you not see the constant barrage of ovie drops on tanks, the corresponding swarms that followed it? or when Sea's entire control group of vults got plagued? Action excels at defiler usage, we knew this before he even switched to KT I really don't understand why action didn't go for a muta switch. I understand he was behind on upgrades but he could have muta bombed the cc at 3 o clock and used a queen to infest it or just waited until sea's mech army was tank heavy and light on goliaths to break his line. | ||
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Trap
United States395 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:40 nozaro33 wrote: Flash's plan was beautiful He notices that Jaehoon is going for fast DTs -> Fast Arb, meaning a delayed robo, so no way Jaehoon would've scouted the marines in time, absolutely no chance for hoon to stop it even if he didn't get the 3rd base Agreed. Also Flash was probably counting on Jaehoon anticipating dropship play after Flash vs Best at those exact positions. I just watched the VOD and Jaehoon had at least 5 goons in his main mineral line. When Flash pushed out, Jaehoon didn't have enough goons to slow him down. | ||
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iw-darins888
Canada32 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:04 moopie wrote: Why at a time like this are KT fans putting down their players? in about 1 month we've lost ForGG and Violet, KT's lineup is suffering. In addition, Flash is still not 100% because of his wrist. The team is doing its best meanwhile (and is still undefeated). The coaching staff knows what they are doing, and if they are sending HoeJJa its either cause he is showing promising results in practice, has earned another shot in a televised match with weeks of hard work, or perhaps the others aren't doing so well. Trust in the coaches instead of putting down the players :3 lol you flash fans are seriously annoying.. stop making excuses for Flash's slump. you guys are just too ignorant to admit that the Monster Terran is never gonna come back... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On February 01 2011 16:16 iw-darins888 wrote: lol you flash fans are seriously annoying.. stop making excuses for Flash's slump. you guys are just too ignorant to admit that the Monster Terran is never gonna come back... This is the most awful, transparent troll I've ever seen and I hope you get a temp ban for it. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 01 2011 16:16 iw-darins888 wrote: lol you flash fans are seriously annoying.. stop making excuses for Flash's slump. you guys are just too ignorant to admit that the Monster Terran is never gonna come back... Yeah, 12-1 in January is a pretty major slump. Idiot. | ||
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On February 01 2011 16:16 iw-darins888 wrote: lol you flash fans are seriously annoying.. stop making excuses for Flash's slump. you guys are just too ignorant to admit that the Monster Terran is never gonna come back... well he is right about flash being in one of the greatest slumps of his carreer! 72% winrate cant conceal of that! we are used to see better of him! | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On February 01 2011 06:43 lastmotion wrote: did you not see the constant barrage of ovie drops on tanks, the corresponding swarms that followed it? or when Sea's entire control group of vults got plagued? Action excels at defiler usage, we knew this before he even switched to KT I also saw long lines of hydras and lings marching into well fortified position and lurker minesweeps that would make Kwanro's ultralisks jealous. His drops were successful, he needed to do more of those instead of throwing his units away. | ||
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nepeta
1872 Posts
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Exchange
131 Posts
Set 3: watch if you have time. Nice joke. Game was awesome. On February 01 2011 06:32 lastmotion wrote: i just saw Sea vs Action...and wow TvZ is so much more imba than any other non-mirror matchup i was actually rooting for Sea, and he won a game where he shouldn't have won. Sea was really behind early game, and then he transitioned to Mech, and Mech won him the game. Mines raped everything, mass Tanks owned whatever leftover. All Sea did was turtle+defend while Action lay out amazing plagues, drops, swarms, flanks. In the past, TvZ was not really imba because 4 gas Zerg with Ultras + Defilers eat bio, and T has hard time dealing with it. But now that they've adapted to it by going late game mech, there is literally nothing Zergs can do. Even the korean commentator was like "Terran imba!" lol. Not to take anything from Sea though, he defended beautifully Watch http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/47692_Fantasy_vs_Neo.G_Soulkey/vod and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/48686_Neo.G_Soulkey_vs_Sea/vod Yeah, mech Terran imba))) | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On February 01 2011 06:32 lastmotion wrote: i just saw Sea vs Action...and wow TvZ is so much more imba than any other non-mirror matchup i was actually rooting for Sea, and he won a game where he shouldn't have won. Sea was really behind early game, and then he transitioned to Mech, and Mech won him the game. Mines raped everything, mass Tanks owned whatever leftover. All Sea did was turtle+defend while Action lay out amazing plagues, drops, swarms, flanks. In the past, TvZ was not really imba because 4 gas Zerg with Ultras + Defilers eat bio, and T has hard time dealing with it. But now that they've adapted to it by going late game mech, there is literally nothing Zergs can do. Even the korean commentator was like "Terran imba!" lol. Not to take anything from Sea though, he defended beautifully TvZ may be imba, and I think it is, but this game is a bad example. Action just played a horrible game after he got the advantage....like....embarrassingly bad. There would be something wrong if he didn't lose. Also, Terrans have to deal with TvP so they need a matchup thats slightly tilted to their favor X-x | ||
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Zeridian
United States198 Posts
On February 02 2011 23:27 SubtleArt wrote: TvZ may be imba, and I think it is, but this game is a bad example. Action just played a horrible game after he got the advantage....like....embarrassingly bad. There would be something wrong if he didn't lose. Also, Terrans have to deal with TvP so they need a matchup thats slightly tilted to their favor X-x felt like this is the truth somewhat (personally I've always felt ZvP and PvT is way worse) but you're using the wrong game man. Sea's nice defense and tons of units and ultras being thrown away along with defilers not even swarming and dying, that's not evidence of imba tvz. Action tried to cruise on multiple base attacks with splitting his units, it only turned out that most of his units melted | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On February 01 2011 16:16 iw-darins888 wrote: lol you flash fans are seriously annoying.. stop making excuses for Flash's slump. you guys are just too ignorant to admit that the Monster Terran is never gonna come back... User was temp banned for this post. you know thats OOV's nickname right? Fyi he isnt coming back (unless he moves to sc2, but atm he is too busy making fantasy imba) | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
Best zerg ever. Go lefty! | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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jaQi
1121 Posts
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_romantic
United States455 Posts
On February 05 2011 18:38 jaQi wrote: Flash needs one more elo point vP to lead all elo peaks Flash needs one more elo point vP to lead all elo peaks -corrected- | ||
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