This is awesome. Easy qualification for Stork Sad for BackHo. sHy, an unknown Oz protoss tears his group 2-0 ?! Is he neo-perfectman hahaha ? Fuck yeah Canata !
On October 28 2010 12:34 GTR wrote: they are replaying the series between brave and mong. they must be wondering how an a-teamer lost to a relatively no-name terran.
On October 28 2010 12:34 GTR wrote: they are replaying the series between brave and mong. they must be wondering how an a-teamer lost to a relatively no-name terran.
Does anyone know the schedule and if they're gonna have a break till afternoon groups or going straight into it, as they're aren't as many players/games...?
first obs out - will help against those mines after losing so many goons a pair of vultures snipe the probe heading to 5 a vulture raid at 3, cannons stop it
Nex placed at 5 before probe picked off this time - FBH moving a marine/vulture/tank army to the nat abuse spot - damn this toss loses another 3 goons to mines - weak
fbh pulls back in the face of an arbiter and toss army coming to defend zealots still slow? not anymore - 3 tanks frozen - toss attacking uphill with a large army
wow that's terrible - not moving the goons forward to engage the rear tanks - lost a huge part of that army - but it doesn't matter - a huge stream of reinforcements are on their way
sorry if this has already been asked somewhere else, but where can I see real time results? fomos doesn't seem to have them and the MBCgame website loads as a complete mess for me
sairs actually brought home into the main to defend against drops, cannons being added too - oh wait the corsairs went to the nat - and the doom drop in the main - storms thrown down as the ol's drop
yellow's definitely seized the advantage again - there's a shuttle by one of his bases - flying into his main - what's inside? drones run immediately - the shuttle follows them
On October 28 2010 13:28 matjlav wrote: Sorry for asking again, but does anyone have access to real-time results or are we just watching for them on the stream?
You can check real time results on fomos, etc and sometimes they'll flash them on the screen.
On October 28 2010 13:28 matjlav wrote: Sorry for asking again, but does anyone have access to real-time results or are we just watching for them on the stream?
You can check real time results on fomos, etc and sometimes they'll flash them on the screen.
WHOA i swear that wasn't there last time i checked.
p army attacking straight into fbh's defenses at inner 9 - shuttle dies before dropping zealots deep into the tankline - protoss backs off for now after killing a lot of vultures
sky expanding to 12.5
2 idle arbiters by the stargate, fbh's inner 9 established, fbh now pushing with tank/vulture and a handful of goliaths, 2 vessels
fbh halfway across the map but sky catches him off-guard unsieged with a goon-heavy attack - the tanks getting slowly cut down but no more zealots, and the goons pull back
wow sky adding a load of gateways to 12.5 arbiter and mostly goon army engaging tanks right of inner 9 - again lots of blue goo, sky disengaging again
probes cross some mines as they maynard to 12.5 - vultures immediately respond and hunt some of them down - but turn back as they reach the ramp - fbh pushing yet again - going se towards 4.5
fbh's main army - not that big, engaging a few goons near 1.5 - if fbh can shut down 12.5 and 1.5 he'll have a good chance of coming back - but there's like 10 gates there, be careful!
On October 28 2010 13:57 mierin wrote: Canata advances...are you serious? BW has reached a different era
Believe it or not, Canata is called the "Survivor King". He always qualifies the offline qualifiers like a breeze and then die horribly right after that. He has been pulling that off consistently for a long long time.
On October 28 2010 14:04 Zona wrote: IIRC canata failed the prelims for the first time in AGES late last year
Yeah but he also did great last year during the Avalon MSL, he almost defeated Jaedong in the Ro8 ! Too bad because his next opponents would have all been zergs so he could have had a decent shot :D
mind with a big vulture force taking down the eggs east of 6 wow, lings almost mine dragged into a huge cluster of mind's tanks (7 of them hugging each other)
a dozen vultures vs one ultralisk on defense at 6
lings loaded up into ol's
drones burrowed at 6 - the 7 vultures vs the sunekn now - ultraling dropped to defend but now mind moving in with like 10 goliaths miso's gonna lose the base all the drones there IDLE they burrow but mind has vesssels...
hyvaa hasn't really done any damage with 2hatch mutas, yeah, but I think fbh really made too many. His rax count and tech is way too slow. hyvaa's get his third up and going, he's made drones to fill up his earlier empty nat, and it seems like fbh has no way to really do much about it because his timings got pushed back way too much.
On October 28 2010 14:29 koreasilver wrote: hyvaa hasn't really done any damage with 2hatch mutas, yeah, but I think fbh really made too many. His rax count and tech is way too slow. hyvaa's get his third up and going, he's made drones to fill up his earlier empty nat, and it seems like fbh has no way to really do much about it because his timings got pushed back way too much.
hyvaa also picked off more than 5 scvs at the nat with ling raids early in the game, fbh's mnm count is really low for this point in the game
this game is so back and 4th but fbh with 4 bases is in control - hydra/lurkerling army moves towards 5 - but vessels come and cast like 5 irradiates, totally destroying any attack that might have occurred
imo should have lifted to the back expo as well as making rax there asap. marines would have been out on time i think and he would have had a HUGE scv lead.
On October 28 2010 14:59 LuckyFool wrote: I turned on the stream and saw a hatch making next to a cc...."must be prelims!" Then somebody told me it was fbh... LOL.
im in the same boat rofl tuned in just in time to see the 'ㅈㅈ'
5 zealots another 2 probes being brought forwards - a sunken starting at the nat - but the 3 zealots and 3 probes head up the ramp - lings kill all the probes
britney starts his core - zealot attack failure - lings finish up all the zealots
but soulkey's drone count pretty low
sk's OL sees everything in the main though now the lings rushing forwards towards britney's base the 6 or so zealots should be able to hold the ramp though
soulkey takes his 2nd gas - 5 or so mutas are now out - ready to attack the back nat - only one cannon there with one making (as well as an archives - the sairs come in but run from 3 scourge
cannons taken out, probes retreat back to the main a bunch of slow zealots moving out though, forge still spinning
4 rines and 1 medic dropped at 10 before the dropship scourged - a few drone kills, lots of ling kills - 2 lurkers will finish them off a decnet plague on fbh's roving mnm army
lings finally clean up the mnm at 1.5
3 lurkers holding a ramp (at 7??) irradiated
5 guardians finish morphing north of fbh's base at 4
Wtf was that shit. When guardians attack, he didn't bring his vessels over. He didn't even try taking a 3rd with a significant army. He made mistakes everywhere and his control was terrible. He could of easily won the game too.
On October 28 2010 15:15 Zona wrote: while his control was lacking I don't think he could have won easily from that situation, if we start from when the stream came on
pvz again
I don't even understand what FBH was trying to accomplish. He allowed hyvaa to take 4 bases and then FBH did nothing after hyvaa did that. At least try to take 3rd or push into their base. He tried to push, it failed, holy crap take your goddamn 3rd. He was playing like a total noob that game and it just pises me off.
* possibly Woon, the happy zerg who took a game off Effort in WCG? all the untranslated names are not (yet?) in TLPD, names with a different team after them have apparently changed teams
Wait, that's two Hwaseung Oz Protoss who've made it in?
How is that possible? Oz's Protoss were more pathetic than SKT Zergs last year!
Which reminds me, from what I understand Frozean was the whipping boy of the 2008-2009 Proleague, and Perfectman was last Proleague's, but it seems he's actually doing well this season (insofar that even if he loses every other game in the season, he's still done better than last year) so I wonder who will gain renown as especially horrible this year?
[Survivor Preliminary] HS Tae Kyun Kim, "rested on economic confidence," October 28, 2010 14:57 [Pomoseu gimgyeonghyeon News] George seems to be happy people have attended the
27 days a permanent e-sports stadium at Yongsan pidipap MSL Survivor Kim Tae in Preliminary Round 10 trillion (HS) was successful in two finals.
The following Q & A with Kim Tae.
- What's it feel? ▲ private league practice because yesterday was a professional league. Preliminary maps of the old ones, but because the game went about with confidence. I feel good.
- MBC Game qualifying for the first time had passed. ▲ Inspiration does not exist yet. George passed the Survivor people behind the formula seems to be happy to participate.
- Anderson was a tough game? ▲ first opponent after the game that they did not wait for one hour. So keep your hands in the first game with baktaemin players did not move. Anxiety but two, are glad to win three sets well.
- HS Protoss force of good. ▲ ohsangtaek coach while the game comes really does look good. Strategic points both good and well taken care of players and does a trainee or weeks. Thanks to the Protoss players seem to be getting better grades.
- HS Terran has been stagnant recently. ▲ When you practice really hard and does well. Yet an early round scores will come out soon is Now. Hotwire is yeonpaeman.
- Tomorrow, where they got the Star League qualifier? I'll just go back and practice tomorrow ▲ Heat. Seems to be nice to practice. Feel good.
- If you want to get better. ▲ Pro League team wins 3 losses in a good score. Stools WeMade to hold the high ground and will make the climb. They should be applied force.
▶ pidipap MSL Survivor Tournament Preliminary 10000000000000 ◆ 4 River Baktaemin (low) 2 vs 0 seojisu (Te) Jin (Te), Kim Tae paeseungpae 1 vs 2 (France) seungpaeseung ◆ Final Baktaemin (me) Kim Tae seungpaepae 1 vs 2 (France) paeseungseung - Kim Tae finals
is the protoss from oz that qualified (shy) is he the guy everyone is talking about being the #1 draft ?? and so far 2 oz members qualified not counting seeds
On October 28 2010 16:51 pvzvt wrote: i love ruby's mnm control
really? i love his tank defense never thought his mnm was that spectacular
well i always confuse casy with ruby but his last couple of games + some older ones do contain some sexy micro try the latest game vs soul key on proleague bit long but worth the while!!!
What a surprisingly great game! I can't help feeling Best underestimated Orion when he got to 3 bases with so much ease, and realized too late that he was actually decent
Anyone now why best failed? What happend early game? I came in when zerg had just a shitload of untis and even though best had like 3 reavers and a good amount of zeal and goons his army just vanished and there was no comming back after that.
How many bases did Orion have? Best was on max 2 before he lost his nat and it looked like Orion was on 4-5.
On October 28 2010 18:04 purpose wrote: Anyone now why best failed? What happend early game? I came in when zerg had just a shitload of untis and even though best had like 3 reavers and a good amount of zeal and goons his army just vanished and there was no comming back after that.
How many bases did Orion have? Best was on max 2 before he lost his nat and it looked like Orion was on 4-5.
Best was contained by a 3 hatch hydra bust opening, and turtled in his nat. Meanwhile he built a ton of sairs but was unable to do too much with them aside from the occasional overlord.
When Best pushed out and tried to take a 4th in the inner 12, Orion did a beautiful hydra/lurker surround with the forces fanned out from all around. Best stormed well, but the forces were closing in from everywhere and he took too many losses. After that he was pretty much a gonner, and Orion was free to expo and macro up.
On October 28 2010 18:04 purpose wrote: Anyone now why best failed? What happend early game? I came in when zerg had just a shitload of untis and even though best had like 3 reavers and a good amount of zeal and goons his army just vanished and there was no comming back after that.
How many bases did Orion have? Best was on max 2 before he lost his nat and it looked like Orion was on 4-5.
Some failed harass early on, Orion sniped a shuttle+3-4 templar before the fight, and macroed like a fuckin beast. He engaged as Best's fourth was going up, Best's army was slightly out of position w/ some hanging out in the back+Reavers too far front, letting them get easily sniped. Then he drowned in a sea of zerg units
omfg, yes he is. wow, sucks. he is way too good to lose to some guy like orion, come on. i think after all this failure in past prelims, he has developed a mental blockade.
1. Group number located upperleft. This narrows field a lot 2. Teams playing (easy to spot, MBC, KT etc). Narrows even more 3. Player races 4. Compare these information to topic post. All this takes 20-30 sec max 5. Still if you feel dumb still you can ask it here
On October 28 2010 18:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Waking up to this is better than waking up to a blowjob. Now someone please tell me where we at in the sets?
'Morning The OP is kept mostly up to date, there are only a few games left now from the evening groups.
On October 28 2010 18:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Waking up to this is better than waking up to a blowjob. Now someone please tell me where we at in the sets?
after u'll hear the results u'll feel like the whore took the money and the tip of your tool in her mouth in one bite !
On October 28 2010 18:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Waking up to this is better than waking up to a blowjob. Now someone please tell me where we at in the sets?
after u'll hear the results u'll feel like the whore took the money and the tip of your tool in her mouth in one bite !
Oh yeah Stork and Lomo advances... but poor Best :/
On October 28 2010 18:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Waking up to this is better than waking up to a blowjob. Now someone please tell me where we at in the sets?
Its obvious that you have never woken up to a blowjob. Or you would never have said that ;-)
On October 28 2010 18:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Waking up to this is better than waking up to a blowjob. Now someone please tell me where we at in the sets?
Its obvious that you have never woken up to a blowjob. Or you would never have said that ;-)
Depends on who the blowjob is from, no? Hmm I look away for a second and then BaBy's army is gone. Hmm lots of gols.
On October 28 2010 18:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Waking up to this is better than waking up to a blowjob. Now someone please tell me where we at in the sets?
Its obvious that you have never woken up to a blowjob. Or you would never have said that ;-)
Anyppi on 6 bases, Baby better kill Anyppi with this push. His harass was good but apparently not enough to slow Anyppi down, because Anyppi threw down half a dozen gateways and went into macro mode.
Templar out for Anyppi, let's see if he knows how to use them xD
Wow Anyppi still isn't engaging Baby, preferring to sack expansions and wait the game out. The map is split, and the observer just highlighted a fleet beacon, so I guess carriers? Doesn't seem like they'll be out in time to stop a push at his nat though.
HUGE RECALL ON BABY'S NEW EXPO, BUYING ANYPPI PRECIOUS TIME But will it be enough? JANGBI-ESQUE STORMS GOING DOWN, TERRAN METAL GETTING TORN UP
Doesn't look like Baby can push anytime soon.
Holy shit was that 6 stargates, all pumping carriers?
If Anyppi can starve Baby out he may have a chance. But it's looking bleak, since he's losing so many expos.
Storms are ripping Baby's apart though, and he's left with a weak army that probably won't be able to break Anyppi's 5 bases (4 mining) in time. Anyppi's just remaking expo after expo and macroing up suicide armies to recall and deny terran expos.
Anyppi actually defended very well considering Baby's army. Baby only has 1 base that isn't mining out (though he is attempting to take the middle as well).
Anyppi stops the middle base from going up, great use of storms in this game.
Anyppi has gone from "macro mode" to carrier micro mode. He failed to snipe Baby's expansion while distracting him with a feint attack in the middle, so it's anyone's game at the moment.
Lots and lots of high templar and zealots! Baby needs more vultures!
On October 28 2010 19:36 purpose wrote: I dont understand how toss wont hat after giving away free arbiters in like every battle and also flying carriers into gols.
he looked so screwed when terran took out expo after expo and he had no units due to carrier switch. Impressive though to win.
Baby was on 3 bases for a long while, and finally grabbed a 4th. While he did win most of the skirmishes, Anyppi had a lot more bases, so he constantly pumped units. Even though Anyppi lost several expos, Baby couldn't take them all out, and Anyppi kept rebuilding. Eventually (just when things were looking grim with the carriers) Baby's 3rd was mined out and he was down to the 4th only, which slowed down his production by quite a bit. He tried to grab the middle expo (twice), but Anyppi kept the pressure on. Anyppi essentially went zealot/goon/ht, and had great storm coverage. Baby just mined out.
I don't think Anyppi was down at any point during that game, except maybe right after the harass attempts. Baby only had like 3 factories at that point so he couldn't exactly push out, but Anyppi's macro was just too much for Baby and the heavy storm strategy was instrumental in holding off Baby's pushes. Anyppi's macro was just too strong for Baby to keep up. The moment Baby added 4 factories, Anyppi added 6 gateways while expanding.
There was a point when Baby was at Anyppi's natural, that he probably could've pushed into the main, but he held back and ran back to defend a base that fell one minute later.
All the time that Anyppi was sacrificing units to hold the middle, he was saving up a ton of resources while Baby was only on 3 bases. You saw how he could afford to sack units for good storms to greatly weaken Baby's army and slow his pushing power. Basically paper thin tanks < storms
dang it dang it dang it!!! Best and Kwanro are out... what the heck Best..... Tossgirl didn't win a single game So unfair... Killer advanced and so did Shine... but not Yellow
Well, at least SKT's better players like Best and Kwanro can concentrate on the Proleague now while their more bench players like Canata, Soo and Ssak (well, maybe not Soo) can get more practice in televised matches.
And I'm so happy Jaehoon advances. More potential comedy in the MSL. Hope he advances while still failing.
Bo3 matches. Anything can happen, especially since all the bigger names would have spent most of their time practicing on the new proleague maps in the last few weeks.
On October 29 2010 00:46 Ryo wrote: Bo3 matches. Anything can happen, especially since all the bigger names would have spent most of their time practicing on the new proleague maps in the last few weeks.
no, bo3 definitely favours the better players.
Anything can happen in bo1s, bo3s pretty much show a player's ability.
On October 29 2010 00:46 Ryo wrote: Bo3 matches. Anything can happen, especially since all the bigger names would have spent most of their time practicing on the new proleague maps in the last few weeks.
no, bo3 definitely favours the better players.
Anything can happen in bo1s, bo3s pretty much show a player's ability.
I think he wanted it to be bo5 :p Think about how long we would have to stay awake for it to end lol
Haven't seen games but Best losing to Orion is one big WTF, i guess his pvz is still no near the required level. Anyppi surprised me by beating Baby and especially ggaemo who picked up some skill lately. Soulkey and killer are badass nowadays. Also nice that the Recall grandmaster Jaehoon has won a few ^^
Sorry for the nub question, but how exactly does MSL seeding work? I know that the top eight from the last MSL are seeded into the Ro32, but I'm not seeing a lot more names than that. What's the status of those who made the Ro16 or Ro32 last time, are they seeded into Survivor or something?
A SKT Zerg advances and more than one non-JD Oz player advances? What is this craziness. Best lost, which is sad, Pure lost which is sad because he's a Protoss, but he lost to a SKT Terran that wasn't Fantasy (oh, and Canata advanced in another bracket - yay for him not sucking today). Yay for lineup depth!
Also, I read herO[jOin]'s name as heroin when I just glanced at it, lulz.
Apparently Kwanro Hyuked himself against some Woongjin Zerg. Hopefully Movie is in good form to make another run for the Protoss... haven't really heard much from him lately, though.
On October 31 2010 06:44 dukethegold wrote: PvZ needs to be banned, otherwise Best would have racked up at least two titles by now.
Probably not, he's probably the most emotionally weak top player around. All you have to do is throw him off balance and he'll basically give up playing and be on the verge of tears.
Sad really none of the protoss players are perfect like Jaedong or Flash.
Wasn't Anyppi an amateur until not too long ago? Upsetting Baby in a Bo3 is quite an accomplishment.
On an unrelated note... Is anyone streaming the Wildcard tournament? Meh It doesn't really matter I have to wake up early and won't watch anyway... just curious I guess...
On November 04 2010 20:11 superbabosheki wrote: Someone really needs to teach best how to PvZ D:
He have the best PvZ of all time in his team, and I think they are quite good friends too. But maybe that's the problem. When someone is really talented at something they tend to be really bad teachers, because they take so much for granted.
But I think the big issue is how Protoss was designed. Most Protosses are either good at PvT or PvZ, but hardly ever both.