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On August 19 2010 22:38 zmeqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:27 Samurai- wrote:On August 19 2010 22:22 zmeqt wrote:On August 19 2010 22:14 Samurai- wrote:poor leta  You know that Leta had godly TVT ? He was like probably the best tvt before a yeah or so. godly eh ? with his godly TvT he lost 2:0 to flash recently... Did you even read my post? A YEAR AGO !!!My point was that he has the skill needed to do very well against him.
and my point was that he doesnt have the skill needed..
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On August 19 2010 22:38 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? "win 4 straight ..."
The concept is going over your head. For Flash to lose the most possible elo from the MSL series itself, he had to raise it as high as possible before game 3, which includes 2-0ing in WCG and 2-0, 2-2, 3-2ing his MSL. His overall Elo would be lower if he went 2-1 in WCG (winning the first game, to be precise), but that wasn't my point. :>
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On August 19 2010 22:39 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:29 4kmonk wrote:
Can someone do this interview asap pls? i'm on it
get on it like how you do the cheap hookers at Gey Lang yo~
j/k
<3
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On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse.
Oh you're probably right. I think WCG is counted in ELO. The additional 1 loss would definitely cover for the few points gained/lost by playing with Flash's ELO higher and Fanta's lower.
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On August 19 2010 22:35 Samurai- wrote:
yep, people care for this ELO way too much..
elo cuts through bias, it settles arguments by hard evidence.
flash is the top terran, the best player that currently exists beating all bonjwas, jd and bisu.
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Man im not even a hardcore fan of these 2 and i was trippin out XD can't imagine wat it was like for u die-hards 
Come on JD, roll the best 2nd best TvZ player that way it'll hype up JvF 3 even more XD
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On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc.
no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me.
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On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me.
WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think.
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Now Flash needs to practice his 14cc vs Jaedong ezpz 
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On August 19 2010 22:52 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me. WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think.
not even those. notice elo doesn't move despite win/loss in wcg.
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On August 19 2010 22:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:38 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? "win 4 straight ..." The concept is going over your head. For Flash to lose the most possible elo from the MSL series itself, he had to raise it as high as possible before game 3, which includes 2-0ing in WCG and 2-0, 2-2, 3-2ing his MSL. His overall Elo would be lower if he went 2-1 in WCG (winning the first game, to be precise), but that wasn't my point. :>
Not over my head at all . What I didn't understand was the comment "WCG has nothing to do with this series" in the context of ELO which clearly is affected by both series...
On August 19 2010 22:56 kawatan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:52 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me. WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think. not even those. notice elo doesn't move despite win/loss in wcg.
It does. You'll have to look closer.
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Btw, Flash's 1 Rax FE --> 2 Port seems like such a fantastic build. It seems very flexible, allowing you to adapt and transition into a variety of strategies. Me like.
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On August 19 2010 23:01 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? "win 4 straight ..." The concept is going over your head. For Flash to lose the most possible elo from the MSL series itself, he had to raise it as high as possible before game 3, which includes 2-0ing in WCG and 2-0, 2-2, 3-2ing his MSL. His overall Elo would be lower if he went 2-1 in WCG (winning the first game, to be precise), but that wasn't my point. :> Not over my head at all . What I didn't understand was the comment "WCG has nothing to do with this series" in the context of ELO which clearly is affected by both series... Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 22:56 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:52 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me. WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think. not even those. notice elo doesn't move despite win/loss in wcg. It does. You'll have to look closer.
well, flash was 2372 before wcg v fantasy. and he was still 2372 after 2-0 fantasy. that to me is proof it doesn't count. what do you think?
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On August 19 2010 23:06 kawatan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 23:01 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? "win 4 straight ..." The concept is going over your head. For Flash to lose the most possible elo from the MSL series itself, he had to raise it as high as possible before game 3, which includes 2-0ing in WCG and 2-0, 2-2, 3-2ing his MSL. His overall Elo would be lower if he went 2-1 in WCG (winning the first game, to be precise), but that wasn't my point. :> Not over my head at all . What I didn't understand was the comment "WCG has nothing to do with this series" in the context of ELO which clearly is affected by both series... On August 19 2010 22:56 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:52 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:
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Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me. WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think. not even those. notice elo doesn't move despite win/loss in wcg. It does. You'll have to look closer. well, flash was 2372 before wcg v fantasy. and he was still 2372 after 2-0 fantasy. that to me is proof it doesn't count. what do you think?
You sure TLPD had been updated?
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Everyone so greedy for Liquibet, even Fantasy fans voted Flash. Ridiculous.
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On August 19 2010 23:09 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 23:06 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 23:01 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:On August 19 2010 22:23 revy wrote:
I think it's fitting that Flash bumped his TvT ELO up 1 point after being up 2-0 so that his peak will remember this great series. Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? "win 4 straight ..." The concept is going over your head. For Flash to lose the most possible elo from the MSL series itself, he had to raise it as high as possible before game 3, which includes 2-0ing in WCG and 2-0, 2-2, 3-2ing his MSL. His overall Elo would be lower if he went 2-1 in WCG (winning the first game, to be precise), but that wasn't my point. :> Not over my head at all . What I didn't understand was the comment "WCG has nothing to do with this series" in the context of ELO which clearly is affected by both series... On August 19 2010 22:56 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:52 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:
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Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:
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ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me. WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think. not even those. notice elo doesn't move despite win/loss in wcg. It does. You'll have to look closer. well, flash was 2372 before wcg v fantasy. and he was still 2372 after 2-0 fantasy. that to me is proof it doesn't count. what do you think? You sure TLPD had been updated?
yup. but it'd be nice to have admins confirm it.
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So enjoyable. I was having bad flashbacks to Flash v Effort for a little while there, but glad to see Flash pull it out. I didn't get to watch all the games, but following the thread was epic.
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Man, this series didn't dissapoint! I was really looking forward to it, no doubt both of them practiced pretty hard for their possible meeting in PL finals, then for WCG and MSL. It was bound to be epic...but who could know *how* epic!
I could only laugh at the TvT haters. "noo, TvT BO5 *cutwrist*", "please no TvT in semifinals blah blah"...all bullshit. No mirror matchup comes close to high level TvT. Boxer vs oov, Flash vs fantasy...was there even such epic PvP or ZvZ BO5? Bisu vs Stork probably comes close.
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On August 19 2010 23:11 kawatan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 23:09 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 23:06 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 23:01 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:On August 19 2010 22:25 McDonalds wrote:
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Is ELO recorded game by game or series by series? I would have thought that the results aren't recorded until the winner is decided. ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? "win 4 straight ..." The concept is going over your head. For Flash to lose the most possible elo from the MSL series itself, he had to raise it as high as possible before game 3, which includes 2-0ing in WCG and 2-0, 2-2, 3-2ing his MSL. His overall Elo would be lower if he went 2-1 in WCG (winning the first game, to be precise), but that wasn't my point. :> Not over my head at all . What I didn't understand was the comment "WCG has nothing to do with this series" in the context of ELO which clearly is affected by both series... On August 19 2010 22:56 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:52 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:
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ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:[quote] That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me. WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think. not even those. notice elo doesn't move despite win/loss in wcg. It does. You'll have to look closer. well, flash was 2372 before wcg v fantasy. and he was still 2372 after 2-0 fantasy. that to me is proof it doesn't count. what do you think? You sure TLPD had been updated? yup. but it'd be nice to have admins confirm it.
All games that show up in TLPD count towards ELO unless the league is in italics.
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On August 19 2010 23:20 segfix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 23:11 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 23:09 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 23:06 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 23:01 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 okum wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:On August 19 2010 22:29 revy wrote:
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ELO always goes game by game. Flash infact managed to hurt his TvT ELO in the greatest possible way while still winning, win 4 straight (increases his ELO decreases Fanta's) then lose 2 in a row to finally win the last game. That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? "win 4 straight ..." The concept is going over your head. For Flash to lose the most possible elo from the MSL series itself, he had to raise it as high as possible before game 3, which includes 2-0ing in WCG and 2-0, 2-2, 3-2ing his MSL. His overall Elo would be lower if he went 2-1 in WCG (winning the first game, to be precise), but that wasn't my point. :> Not over my head at all . What I didn't understand was the comment "WCG has nothing to do with this series" in the context of ELO which clearly is affected by both series... On August 19 2010 22:56 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:52 Holgerius wrote:On August 19 2010 22:48 kawatan wrote:On August 19 2010 22:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 22:30 moopie wrote:[quote] That's not true. + Show Spoiler +Had he lost 1 game in WCG (win 2-1) on top of the 3-2 today, it would have been worse. WCG has nothing to do with this series? On August 19 2010 22:38 kawatan wrote:
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guy you quoted got it right. wcg games aren't factored in elo calculation just like allstars events. Nope, WCG Counts. It's high profile enough to count, what with the enormous venue at the finals, money, etc. no, it's not. you can ask admins about it if you don't believe me. WCG itself doesn't count, but the Korean qualifiers do I think. not even those. notice elo doesn't move despite win/loss in wcg. It does. You'll have to look closer. well, flash was 2372 before wcg v fantasy. and he was still 2372 after 2-0 fantasy. that to me is proof it doesn't count. what do you think? You sure TLPD had been updated? yup. but it'd be nice to have admins confirm it. All games that show up in TLPD count towards ELO unless the league is in italics.
Ya, WCG counts as a ''Standard League'' in TLPD, so I don't see how it would not affect ELO.
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