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On August 19 2010 23:15 L0thar wrote:
Man, this series didn't dissapoint! I was really looking forward to it, no doubt both of them practiced pretty hard for their possible meeting in PL finals, then for WCG and MSL. It was bound to be epic...but who could know *how* epic!
I could only laugh at the TvT haters. "noo, TvT BO5 *cutwrist*", "please no TvT in semifinals blah blah"...all bullshit. No mirror matchup comes close to high level TvT. Boxer vs oov, Flash vs fantasy...was there even such epic PvP or ZvZ BO5? Bisu vs Stork probably comes close.
PvP and TvT are fine mirrors. The problem with mirrors is that when there's some in a tournament it means there's more likely to be more of the same mirror (Calm's MSL, Clubday, etc) so you get kind of bored of the same matchup everytime.
ZvZ sucks in every Best of series. Any lategame ZvZ is automatically awesome, though. Lurkers vs Lings is my favorite thing to watch.
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It seems a little unfair though that Flash goes 5-2 and gains 8 ELO points from it.  Guess that's what happens when you're that far ahead of everyone.
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That's the point of ELO rating though, and what makes really high ELOs that much more impressive =)
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On August 19 2010 23:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 23:15 L0thar wrote:
Man, this series didn't dissapoint! I was really looking forward to it, no doubt both of them practiced pretty hard for their possible meeting in PL finals, then for WCG and MSL. It was bound to be epic...but who could know *how* epic!
I could only laugh at the TvT haters. "noo, TvT BO5 *cutwrist*", "please no TvT in semifinals blah blah"...all bullshit. No mirror matchup comes close to high level TvT. Boxer vs oov, Flash vs fantasy...was there even such epic PvP or ZvZ BO5? Bisu vs Stork probably comes close. PvP and TvT are fine mirrors. The problem with mirrors is that when there's some in a tournament it means there's more likely to be more of the same mirror (Calm's MSL, Clubday, etc) so you get kind of bored of the same matchup everytime. ZvZ sucks in every Best of series. Any lategame ZvZ is automatically awesome, though. Lurkers vs Lings is my favorite thing to watch.
High level TvT is the most intense shit you'll ever get seriously 
Table turns like a fucking windmill and chair's edge becomes the new favorite place for sitting ...
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Once the countdown is over, Flash is without a doubt the best player ever. Unfortunately, his mindgame could use improvement: Flash hasn't ridden a BO advantage to victory since Jaedong last MSL. When the FvJ finals come, the results will be in large part be decided in the mental battle before the games even start, and in planning this Bo5 I don't think Jaedong will make the same mistake twice.
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woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah all that sandbagging was for naught eh fantasy?
gj flash. hoping to c JD pull through as well
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Ah, I knew  Fantasy would play better, but I thought he would be able to eek it out. Gotta watch!
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Yes!!! Flash again in the finals. When I woke up I got this weird feeling that he lost but I am soooo glad that he managed to pull it out!
Flash too good
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On August 19 2010 23:53 tree.hugger wrote:Ah, I knew Fantasy would play better, but I thought he would be able to eek it out. Gotta watch!
Easily the best series of the year so far.
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Fantasy needed 4 unbeatable strategies for the 4 maps. He only had 3.
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are the vods up somewhere yet? i missed the series
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Wowwwwwwwwwwww...I was too scared to watch game 5 after Flash threw away game 4 so quickly. I only just dared to take a look at the result, and he somehow pulled it out <3 <3 <3
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 19 2010 23:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 23:53 tree.hugger wrote:Ah, I knew Fantasy would play better, but I thought he would be able to eek it out. Gotta watch! Easily the best series of the year so far.
Seems like I need to put aside 3 1/2 hours for it though. Well, I'll watch it in chunks then.
But after tonight, and reading the LR, it seems to me that fantasy is an S-Class player. I think being S-Class is a bit more than just skill; it's a mindset. It's the mindset that says that you're the best, and you're determined to prove it. S-Class means you don't lose (or at least, you significantly up your game) against rivals who've beaten you in the past. I loved when Flash took EffOrt into his MSL group, that's that kind of mindset. Even more so, I loved that EffOrt welcomed the challenge, and beat him again. Last year, Jaedong took EffOrt into his group and beat him, showed he was still the top zerg. But what I love about Flash,  Jaedong, Fantasy and EffOrt, is that they always have that mindset that says; you're not going to take me without a fight. Good for fantasy to show that fight today.
I wanted a Fantasy v. Jaedong series, and I'm sad that fanta still hasn't won his starleague, but I think he will, some day.
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It's still possible. When I started following BW again last year after a long layoff, Fantasy was playing arguably better than Flash at that point. He was coming off two straight OSL silvers and almost got a third except for getting a bad semifinal draw of Jaedong after beating him in the PL.
It was only the season after that that Flash went into his tear.
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On August 19 2010 23:44 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 23:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 19 2010 23:15 L0thar wrote:
Man, this series didn't dissapoint! I was really looking forward to it, no doubt both of them practiced pretty hard for their possible meeting in PL finals, then for WCG and MSL. It was bound to be epic...but who could know *how* epic!
I could only laugh at the TvT haters. "noo, TvT BO5 *cutwrist*", "please no TvT in semifinals blah blah"...all bullshit. No mirror matchup comes close to high level TvT. Boxer vs oov, Flash vs fantasy...was there even such epic PvP or ZvZ BO5? Bisu vs Stork probably comes close. PvP and TvT are fine mirrors. The problem with mirrors is that when there's some in a tournament it means there's more likely to be more of the same mirror (Calm's MSL, Clubday, etc) so you get kind of bored of the same matchup everytime. ZvZ sucks in every Best of series. Any lategame ZvZ is automatically awesome, though. Lurkers vs Lings is my favorite thing to watch. High level TvT is the most intense shit you'll ever get seriously Table turns like a fucking windmill and chair's edge becomes the new favorite place for sitting ...
ZvZ would like to have a word with you
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poor fanta, just if he didnt slack of game 1 after that huge lead ... Flash is truely the beast, his decision making is absolutely incredible at that time... making vultures, cheap + spidermines to break tanks lines and gain back map control... god, top tier!!!
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Canada2480 Posts
I am sad
Fanta deserves a starleague so much
epic epic BO5 though
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On August 19 2010 22:40 esla_sol wrote:
i hope 2 god jaedong does not lose to lihgt
i srsly cannot take another tvt like that
i went to am pm about halfway through the first match to get some munchies and when i came back it was still going and and my friend and i are like wtf we went toget some munchies and its still going on? and then i was like well yea thats tvt for you lol
either you are not receptive to beautiful starcraft or you did not watch any game?
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damn, really the new king of silver.
if just 3 games in his career had gone differently, he would have beaten all of taekbangleessang in Bo5s.
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EPT
