EPT[OSL] Ro16 Day 5
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
http://tv.zeroboy.net/mystlord | ||
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Malinor
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
Those are the safe bets, and I agree, but because it's SC it's unlikely everything is going to go as planned =) | ||
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
Agree 100% | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:35 StylishVODs wrote: Not 100% safe bets, Effor it 1-9 vs Terran lol. To make it even worse, the win is at the start of his last 10 games, so he's currently on a 9 game losing streak ZvT. | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:35 StylishVODs wrote: Not 100% safe bets, Effor it 1-9 vs Terran lol. Yeah, true. But go.go just isn't very good... that one's hard to call. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:35 StylishVODs wrote: Not 100% safe bets Are any these days? | ||
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StylishVODs
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
They're never safe;) just more likely based on players/maps. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
If you believe the rumours, quite a few are, providing you're the one paying off the right people. Unless you're betting against Midas, of course, where that doesn't seem to work... | ||
GTR
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
Stork will lose yet again and be out of OSL. probably for the best, will be really frustraiting if he wins and then fail just when you think he might make it. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
i can't get enough of this intro~ | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
Now if only they included a bit about Fantasy and airport security... | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
Stork > hwasin Calm > fantasy gogo > effort I dont understand why everyone is thinking effort winning is somehow assured. Gogo is the roflcopter afterall and effort is just playing bad at the moment :O | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:41 Gustav_Wind wrote: I just noticed that the OSL intro features ForGG checking his watch... coincidental or not, that's pretty cool. Now if only they included a bit about Fantasy and airport security... What's the story behind ForGG and his watch? | ||
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:41 Gustav_Wind wrote: I just noticed that the OSL intro features ForGG checking his watch... my mind is blown. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
 Flash @ bottom right Kal @ top left | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:42 QuothTheRaven wrote: What's the story behind ForGG and his watch? timing attack | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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kyzers0ze
Singapore1073 Posts
time attacker | ||
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Jiffymix
United States43 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Oh lol, yeah that's obvious now that you say it. Silly me. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:44 Jiffymix wrote: Morning/afternoon/evening everyone, I decided to finally unborrow to cheer on Lee Young Ho!!! Go Flash!!! Good first post cheering for Flash! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
. White guy in the audience! | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
i love token white people | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal goes straight crossmap scout to Flash. Core not spinning! Robo out with observatory. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
1 Gate Obs Expo from Kal, FD expo from Flash. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal starting up an expansion after obs. Now getting goon range. | ||
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GTR
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Citadel coming out for Kal now, with a hidden pylon in bottom left main! Flash adding his 3rd CC early. | ||
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ejac
United States1195 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal going in again, Flash with lots of SCVs blocking the goons while the tanks siege, looks like he might not have enough!! Oh SCVs tanking hard! Flash holds! | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
OMG Kal going to move in and snipe two tanks, but he's lost quite a few goons... OMG BUT A LOT MORE GOONS INCOMING! Kal meanwhile taking 9... KAL CHARGING IN AGAIN! FOCUS FIRE THE TANKS KAL!!! Gah no focus fire! Losing a lot of goons since they're firing on SCVs. Kal down to 3 goons, and is finally completely driven back. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
kal totally could have won the game right there, he had excellent timing with his dragoons, but terrible micro! | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal looks like he's getting ready to start his 4th. Flash adding on a starport and getting up to 5 (6?) fact. | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Kal grabbing his fourth, Flash with dual armories. +1 weaps done for Flash. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Flash being turtle Terran. Kal playing it safe and not overextending.... No carrier transition it seems from Kal. Cybernetics Core not spinning. No Zealots for Kal yet either. Kal taking top right. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Little bit of a blunder, Flash not starting his 2/1 on time? | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
+1 weaps done for Kal. Two Forges working... Ah there's the core spinning. Carriers incoming. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
CORE SPINNING!!! Carrier transition incoming? | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
BUT HE'S RECALLING INTO MINES! HOLY SHIT SO MANY OF KAL'S FORCES EXPLODED TO MINES! Flash loses his Vessel, but the CC will live. Very minimal damage. Not what Kal needed. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
BUT HE RECALLS ON MINES!! Flash lifts the CC, but half the P forces melted immediately. Flash cleans it up with ease, losing only 1 vessel, some mining time, and a few vults for a large protoss force and an arbiter. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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iRRelevance
Romania725 Posts
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below66
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Ahhhh not enough Zealots! Kal is pushed back! No mass Stargates yet for Kal... Looks like 2 Stargates only.... RECALL AT 6!!! AHHH CC GOES DOWN THIS TIME! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Another recall at 6:00, this one's going to be a lot more effective (probably). Oh nevermind, Flash has absolutely amazing tank positioning and the goons disappear almost immediately. Flash lost the CC, though. | ||
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Jiffymix
United States43 Posts
Why thank you. Huge recall again at 6. Tons of protoss units lost but cc sniped! | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:58 below66 wrote: FLASH ENDS THIS NOW OR LOSES 5 VS 3 BASES You don't watch Flash play very often, do you? | ||
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cunninglinguists
United States925 Posts
his recent cc snipe only solidified his economic advantage. being too passive like this will cost flash the late-game. | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
3 stargates now building carriers. | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Kal moving down... Takes down the building CC at the cost of his army, but he got some GREAT storms off on Flash's tanks. Kal unable to hold the gateway above the cliff at bottom left. Another arb for Kal.. Still no Carriers. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Recall at bottom left, Flash loses a ton of tanks but cleans it up without losing the CC. | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Err... Splash damage on those Goons ripped them apart... OMG KAL WITH DUAL CORES!! This is pretty big... NO GOLS yet for Flash! Kal valiantly defending 9... He needs to hold it until he gets enough interceptors. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal switching almost full time to carriers now. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
kal's been taking a lot of bases while slowing flash's push | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
Losing units and probes left and right | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
No dice. Kal took 3, Flash ignoring that and taking down Kal's top right... But Kal ignoring all that... reveal with 6 or so Carriers!!! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal down to just his natural mining. Flash still has 6 and bottom left. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Kal looking in a very bad position.... Just no expos for Kal while Flash has bottom.. | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:05 integral wrote: carrier games vT are so much fun, lol... protoss inevitably sacrifices bases while running around CC sniping and then it becomes a micro war except flash is like, way ahead in this whole thing, having killed four nexuses in the last minute and kal having killed none | ||
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zuqbu
Germany797 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal has some arbiters and a ton of carriers left, though. He has almost no money to rebuild interceptors though. | ||
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
destroying nexus all over the map while defending perfeclty | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:07 zuqbu wrote: how did flash clear every nexus with minerals in less than 2 minutes? i'm speechless and in awe. That's why he calls himself 'Flash'. | ||
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GTR
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:08 integral wrote: kal is not mining..... He's distance mining 12, but the crappy probe AI is taking the minerals to his main nexus instead of his natural lol. But yeah, Kal only has ~300 minerals right now to rebuild interceptors, while Flash is maxed with 3/2 upgrades. Not looking good at all for Kal | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:08 Konni wrote: don't know if the carriers are too many though Kal has like no bases left, Flash has a few running, and Flash has like 100 supply more than Kal. Flash can pretty much starve Kal to death. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kal recalls the carriers to get them to harass bottom left expansion!! Interceptors fly all the way across the map and reveal carrier position though, and Flash has way too many goliaths. | ||
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
interceptors had to fly over the whole map | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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United States5724 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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zuqbu
Germany797 Posts
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Jaester88
United States143 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Absolutely amazing turtle terran play from Flash, and then he just erupted and killed the Nexuses at 12, top right natural, top right main, 3, bottom left main in a span of like 2-3 minutes, including all the gateways in the top right base. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
Good Game Flash! | ||
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Odies
Denmark275 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
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khersai
Poland366 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:11 Mystlord wrote: And Kal is forced to GG... Gah Kal needs more experience with Carriers or something. totally missed timing, made too many stargates | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
Counters instead of defending (which is ok), but then does no damage with the counter while losing all his bases?? Kal = crap | ||
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prosatan
Romania8053 Posts
Now is Kal-Flash: 1-5 | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:12 Itachii wrote: totally missed timing, made too many stargates At the time when he made those Stargates he had 7 bases, though. I don't think he was expecting Flash to be able to kill all those expansions so quickly. | ||
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
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sh02hp0869
Sweden460 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Plaaguu
United States406 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Ryo
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:12 Itachii wrote: totally missed timing, made too many stargates Yeah pretty much. Are Carriers even that good on Fighting Spirit? There doesn't seem to be enough cover for the Carriers. Seems like having millions of Gates in every expo would be a better strategy on FS. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4202 Posts
It happened so fast, wow. GJ Flash. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Flash executed his counter in a godlike fashion though | ||
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ejac
United States1195 Posts
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Emon_
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:15 Mystlord wrote: Yeah pretty much. Are Carriers even that good on Fighting Spirit? There doesn't seem to be enough cover for the Carriers. Seems like having millions of Gates in every expo would be a better strategy on FS. Yeah I was wondering that myself. Though I have a feeling that Kal might have been afraid of trying to go ground late game vs. Flash's 3/2 mech army, since Flash made Kal's ground forces look so completely helpless in proleague recently. Though of course that was a 2 player map so there weren't as many bases for Kal. | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
ps. he did lose alot of units though, right before the transition. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
All expos at the same time, you're too gosu He knew exactly what he could do and did it. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Flash imba! | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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IGoUnseen
United States72 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:17 QuothTheRaven wrote: Yeah I was wondering that myself. Though I have a feeling that Kal might have been afraid of trying to go ground late game vs. Flash's 3/2 mech army, since Flash made Kal's ground forces look so completely helpless in proleague recently. Though of course that was a 2 player map so there weren't as many bases for Kal. Polaris Rhapsody is a radically different map than Fighting Spirit. PR is so freaking narrow and funnels the Protoss ground army so badly that Carriers should end up working well since Goliaths can't hit Carriers easily and Carriers can abuse the terrain to make the Terran army run around. Not the case on Fighting Spirit, where you can easily flank a Terran army and there's a pretty direct path between bases and where Goliaths can basically sit in a giant ball to engage Carriers. | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
Let's see how Stork manage the mu mow! Protoss FTW!!!! | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Flash 2-1 Kal 2-1 Hyvaa 1-1 Kwanro 0-2 ???? Basically Kwanro is out no matter what, but if he wins then there is a tiebreaker between Flash Kal and Hyvaa? | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:21 Vasoline73 wrote: So group A is now... Flash 2-1 Kal 2-1 Hyvaa 1-1 Kwanro 0-2 ???? Basically Kwanro is out no matter what, but if he wins then there is a tiebreaker between Flash Kal and Hyvaa? No, if Hyvaa wins there is a tiebreaker! | ||
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kyzers0ze
Singapore1073 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:21 Vasoline73 wrote: So group A is now... Flash 2-1 Kal 2-1 Hyvaa 1-1 Kwanro 0-2 ???? Basically Kwanro is out no matter what, but if he wins then there is a tiebreaker between Flash Kal and Hyvaa? if kwanro wins hyvaa is out | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:17 QuothTheRaven wrote: Yeah I was wondering that myself. Though I have a feeling that Kal might have been afraid of trying to go ground late game vs. Flash's 3/2 mech army, since Flash made Kal's ground forces look so completely helpless in proleague recently. Though of course that was a 2 player map so there weren't as many bases for Kal. He had somuch money that he would've easily been able to hold flash away from the bottom left expos. Just recall and stasis everything and run youre army into the terran again and again. That way he wouldn't be able to move anywhere and starve out | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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StylishVODs
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:24 luckybeni2 wrote: He had somuch money that he would've easily been able to hold flash away from the bottom left expos. Just recall and stasis everything and run youre army into the terran again and again. That way he wouldn't be able to move anywhere and starve out he tried that several times already and it always fails. flash just wont push, he defends and slowly splits the map until he cant lose | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
If hyvaa wins it would be the tiebreaker. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
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hku
169 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:22 arbiter_md wrote: Does Stork have a losing record against Hwasin?? They've only met once in an official match (msl/osl/pl) where stork won, but if you count wcg and some event matches, hwasin is 7-5. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
Kwanro lose -> Playoff between Flash, Kal, and Hyvaa with 2 of them advancing. I don't remember ever seeing a 3 at 2-1 playoff before, does it have the same format as the other playoff? If so I guess A1 would go to the person who won 2 games first, then it essentially turns into a BO3 between the last 2? | ||
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Jiffymix
United States43 Posts
Can't believe Hwasin is 7-5 vs Stork | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4992 Posts
Props to Flash for raping all the expo's in such a short time though. Haha | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:26 JSH wrote: Will Stork go Carriers after seeing that last game? Unfortunately for Hwasin, he doesn't have Flash's late game ability. I doubt Hwasin will actually be able to deal with carriers cleanly. I am kind of expecting surprise carriers to be honest, assuming Hwasin doesn't die before they arrive. | ||
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Canada115 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Hwasin @ bottom rightStork @ bottom left | ||
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hku
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On April 14 2010 19:28 revy wrote: Kwanro win -> Flash advances as A1 Kal as A2 Kwanro lose -> Playoff between Flash, Kal, and Hyvaa with 2 of them advancing. I don't remember ever seeing a 3 at 2-1 playoff before, does it have the same format as the other playoff? If so I guess A1 would go to the person who won 2 games first, then it essentially turns into a BO3 between the last 2? The three people with 2-1 play round robin. If the scores are 2-0, 1-1, 0-2, the 2-0 play advances A1 and 1-1 advances as A2. If the scores are all 1-1, they just round robin again. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Hwasin not getting gas--looks like we'll be seeing 1rax CC play from him! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
But he's just going standard 1gate range, so maybe he'll get Hwasin to over-react. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Hwasin snuck an SCV into Stork's base and sees the standard play! Range finished now for Stork, he's shelling the bunker and making Hwasin repair. He also snuck a zealot into the base and is doing some damage! Goons move in and almost break the bunker, kill a few SCVs, but the tank comes out and forces them back. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
STORK SNEAKS A ZEALOT IN! Repair keeping Stork's goons at bay. Zealot inside Hwasin's main sees everything... Getting quite a few kills.. WTF Stork getting up close to the Bunker to get some SCVs! A CITADEL SO FAST? Dark templar? Dubious about this move... Siege mode done for Hwasin. Further aggression is nullified.. Hwasin do you have turretssss? | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Hwasin building his 3rd CC now. Looks like he'll lift it to 3 when it finishes. | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
HWASIN DOESN'T HAVE A TURRET OR COMSAT! | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:37 Xeln4g4 wrote: This opening reminded me (with a big smile) of Idra defeat in TSL2 :-) What? Idra's build was Rax CC into cancel CC and ragequit. Hwasin's doing something completely different... LOL HWASIN W/O TURRETS! STORK PUSHING IN! Oh wow Hwasin using the terrain to siege up his Tanks within turret range while protecting his choke! GJ by Hwasin. Thought he was screwed. Comsat going up, DTs won't do anything. CC lifting to 3. | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Oh wow somehow he fends Stork off. Thought that Hwasin was screwed for sure  | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Vultures sneaking into Stork's mineral lines now! Taking out a ton of probes! | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Sees the arb, but its getting tons of Probe kills, and MINES OMG MINES!!! | ||
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boesthius
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
WTF WTF WTF Mines!!!! | ||
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On April 14 2010 19:39 below66 wrote: he could have done more. Yeah, at least 3-4 SCV kills. | ||
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Thailand7699 Posts
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Australia14568 Posts
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Poland12466 Posts
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Katkishka
United States649 Posts
just gotta hope that he doesn't throw the game retardedly like he likes to do | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:41 JSH wrote: Anyone care to count how many Dragoons were lost to mines? too many :/ | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Goons come and trap the vultures, taking them all out for free! | ||
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Singapore6164 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
edit: Storky back in the supply lead! | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Hwasin getting ready for recalls. Mines in his main and stuffs. | ||
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United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
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Australia8090 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
But it backs off. Mines covering everywhere pretty much... Except maybe Hwasin's third is a bit vulnerable... | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
Saves himself from fail recalling. | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
OMG HWASIN CATCHES STORK'S PROBES IN TRANSFER! Stork loses all but two! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Ah, he suicides an observer in there to see that it's HEAVILY covered in mines before he recalls! Very smart. Recalling there could have been a disaster. Vultures catch transferring probes in the center of the map and take out a ton of them! | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Katkishka
United States649 Posts
oh nvm | ||
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United States11637 Posts
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France466 Posts
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United States8366 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Gets a TON of tanks with some stasis, freezes everything!!! Hwasin only has 1/0 upgrades, too, so the remaining forces aren't that great | ||
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Australia2394 Posts
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Australia14568 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
OMG HUGE STASIS ALL OVER HWASIN'S ARMY! Not looking good for Hwasin now! More troops rallying in for Stork! Hwasin with NO DEFENSE anywhere now! No units left for Hwasin, just his satsised units! Ahhh they unfreeze, but Stork's in position to clean all of Hwasin's units up! Zealots at Hwasin's third raping SCVs.. Ahhh Hwasin is only 2/1 vs Stork's 2/0/0. But it's too late now. It's impossible for Hwasin to come back from that... Hwasin down to 2 base, Stork on 4... More stasis on Hwasin's tanks in his nat... GG from Hwasin. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Spent too much APM defending against recalls and not enough setting up his army in the map. | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
Hwasin ggs. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Great Stasis :D | ||
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
STORKYYYYYYYYYYYYY | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:47 NovaTheFeared wrote: Before: 170-140. After: 140-53. lol thats so sick what a perfectly performed attack | ||
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New Zealand5356 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:48 Turbovolver wrote: Worth the bandwidth =) =) =) STORKYYYYYYYYYYYYY Poor Aussie What did stork just toss into the audience? | ||
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United States5524 Posts
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tenacity
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
Do you guys think this game is denoting the difference between Flash and Hwasin in TvP or the difference between Kal and Stork in PvT? | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:49 Xeln4g4 wrote: Ladies and Gentleman, Stork is presenting everyone how Protoss Chanpion play :-) Do you guys think this game is denoting the difference between Flash and Hwasin in TvP or the difference between Kal and Stork in PvT? for rela? obviously the former | ||
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:49 Xeln4g4 wrote: Ladies and Gentleman, Stork is presenting everyone how Protoss Chanpion play :-) Do you guys think this game is denoting the difference between Flash and Hwasin in TvP or the difference between Kal and Stork in PvT? Both game consisted of player with an extreme lead choking hardcore so kinda hard to compare... | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:49 Xeln4g4 wrote: Ladies and Gentleman, Stork is presenting everyone how Protoss Chanpion play :-) Do you guys think this game is denoting the difference between Flash and Hwasin in TvP or the difference between Kal and Stork in PvT? I thought Kal played really well, while Stork played pretty terribly (those mines!), so I'd say the difference is all in Flash. Flash would have had all of his center tanks pre-sieged and better positioned, and would have had more mines / turrets / depots ready to stop a break (as we saw him do in the previous game on FS). Though Hwasin still played well except for that one slipup in the final battle. He completely blocked Stork's recall attempts and did some amazing vulture harassment, while expanding at a roughly equal pace, and killing a ton of transferred probes. | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:49 Xeln4g4 wrote: Ladies and Gentleman, Stork is presenting everyone how Protoss Chanpion play :-) Do you guys think this game is denoting the difference between Flash and Hwasin in TvP or the difference between Kal and Stork in PvT? The difference between Flash and Hwasin obviously. Hwasin was actually doing alright but was caught out of position, had a significant number of tanks unsieged and had some pretty bad troop spread. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:50 wassbix wrote: Both game consisted of player with an extreme lead choking hardcore so kinda hard to compare... not really true:/ | ||
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tbrown47
United States1235 Posts
BaBy! | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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Netherlands1958 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
first he let so many voults into his nat and main, then he walks like a million dragoons into mines, then he lose alot of probes to vults again. Though really nice move to scoute adn pull back those two recalls. that saved him big time, and the stasis. Vs better players though this wont do. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:50 QuothTheRaven wrote: I thought Kal played really well, while Stork played pretty terribly (those mines!), so I'd say the difference is all in Flash. Flash would have had all of his center tanks pre-sieged and better positioned, and would have had more mines / turrets / depots ready to stop a break (as we saw him do in the previous game on FS). Though Hwasin still played well except for that one slipup in the final battle. He completely blocked Stork's recall attempts and did some amazing vulture harassment, while expanding at a roughly equal pace, and killing a ton of transferred probes. Flash would already have taken half the map and would be making his fifth command center. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:53 purpose wrote: Stork still did not impress that much tbh. I dont see him getting any further in the OSL witht his play. first he let so many voults into his nat and main, then he walks like a million dragoons into mines, then he lose alot of probes to vults again. Though really nice move to scoute adn pull back those two recalls. that saved him big time, and the stasis. Vs better players though this wont do. he always does okay when it really matters... besides, the only player I know that plays perfect games is flash | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:55 meegrean wrote: Flash would already have taken half the map and would be making his fifth command center. And would have had 3/2 upgrades finished and been at 200/200! | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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Sweden5331 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
I'm amazed the game ended so fast after that vulture damage(s). | ||
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Thailand7699 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:02 below66 wrote: I will admit if flash would of gotten away with that vulture move, from there on its a slow game over. I'm amazed the game ended so fast after that vulture damage(s). I think it would be fast game over;) I would have liked to see hwasin move new vults to take out the probes coming back to natural from 9oclock when the harass was over!! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:03 meegrean wrote: I'm looking forward to watching fantasy's horrible tvz 5-5 in his last 10 TvZs is better than Calm's 3-7 in his last 10 ZvTs! | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
BaBy has advanced to the Ro8! Congrats! | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
fantasy @ 7 Calm @ 12 | ||
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United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Fantasy mineral walks a marine behind Calm's mineral line using an SCV!! | ||
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United States522 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
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Sweden16951 Posts
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Afghanistan459 Posts
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lavion
Singapore286 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Calm trying to jump a zergling back there now, but the marine fights it back. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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Singapore7730 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Mutalisks in eggs now and Fantasy doesn't appear to have much AA . . . | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Valk out as well and gets off a full volley unharmed on the mutalisk stack. And then a second volley! | ||
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United States3156 Posts
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Finland1666 Posts
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United States5524 Posts
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lavion
Singapore286 Posts
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Australia8090 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:15 lavion wrote: calm is running out of time, Fantasy is going to get a critical mass of valks. Not if he loses them like that. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
CC going down now as well. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:15 lavion wrote: calm is running out of time, Fantasy is going to get a critical mass of valks. Critical mass of valks is like 5 and no way fantasys going to go for 5 valks with his army so small and his expo so late | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Just watch it then -.- | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Lurkers moving in now, Fantasy stims and snipes one. Valk down, bunker finished but not enough SCVs to repair it! Fantasy loses his expo and now lurkers are burrowing up the ramp! Wow valks come and take out ALL the mutalisks, but there are still 5 lurkers in fantasy's base. | ||
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Australia8090 Posts
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Brazil7469 Posts
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chongu
Malaysia2585 Posts
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Canada499 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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United States5524 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Afghanistan459 Posts
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
imagine Orb playing this game as Terran xD but yeah pretty all in | ||
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France15446 Posts
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Singapore7730 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:19 PoP wrote: good day for t1 lol | ||
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Thailand7699 Posts
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Germany4727 Posts
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United States522 Posts
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United States1761 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:20 purpose wrote: Always nice to see Terran lose. what do you have against Terran I don't like to see any particular race lose maybe certain players but that's a different matter | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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Latvia2350 Posts
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:20 SkytoM wrote: horrible play by fantasy. how could you lose that??, the first valkyrie snipe was just aweful. that did cost you so much :/(( He wasted his money on Valkryies and didn't scout Calm teching to lurkers. | ||
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lavion
Singapore286 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:20 FireGuyX wrote: If only Fantasy had good Valkyrie micro like Flash. I bet even Flash would feel uncomfortable playing on one base. Guess Fantasy like to do some tight rope walking | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
i can't even cheer for him, he's playing like shit | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
I'm glad though since I don't want so many TvTs later on.. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On the bright side CALM WON A FUCKING ZVT!!! Come on Effort PLEEEASEE do the same | ||
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France5778 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
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United States1712 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:21 JSH wrote: what do you have against Terran I don't like to see any particular race lose maybe certain players but that's a different matter I dont know, for some reason I just dont like terran. I play protoss, but dont really have anything against zerg. for some reason Terran just comes of as so lame to me so I enjoy watching them lose :-) | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
BaBy and ZerO has automatically qualified to the Ro8 | ||
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cokencheese
Philippines748 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
Just kidding, gogos gonna rape this | ||
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Philippines748 Posts
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GTR
51454 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:32 cokencheese wrote: What do those cool-looking graphs mean? Player attributes? if you've ever played the game 'mystarcraft' it's basically the same concept as that | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
pretty even and pretty pointy | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
7 rax from go.go | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
Effort is 12hatching | ||
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GTR
51454 Posts
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:38 Tuke wrote: go.go is doing 8(?) rax 8 rax spawning pool now going down after gas and hatchery --;; | ||
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Finland1666 Posts
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Brazil7469 Posts
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France5778 Posts
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Finland1666 Posts
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Brazil7469 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
GG Effort breaks his losing streak! | ||
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Austria7781 Posts
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Philippines748 Posts
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Sweden468 Posts
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51454 Posts
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Latvia2350 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
effort, finally broke the bad streak! wow, i'm relieved | ||
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n3gative
Canada369 Posts
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
fOrGG has also qualified to the Ro8 | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
Nice to see some zergs winning against terrans for a change, though. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:42 GTR wrote: wow fast expanding after an 8rax was just simply asking for it indeed what was go.go thinking :l | ||
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United States1712 Posts
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Art.FeeL
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
why had you do this, you would have owned that scrub go.go | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:42 GTR wrote: wow fast expanding after an 8rax was just simply asking for it Especially when u suicide the only 8 marines u have | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
Hopefully ForGG wins his next match | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:43 Sadistx wrote: Effort decided to stop throwing games since the scandal is out? go.go is Hite, so I guess go.go threw the game | ||
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Brazil7469 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:43 Jackal03 wrote: effort just lost respect, i guess go.go did a terrible build and expected to win becouse he is slumping so hard Even a slumping Effort won't dishonor himself to the point of losing to a crap player like go.go. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:44 okum wrote: So what are the group standings now? forgg 2-0, Effort/go.go 1-2 and Shine 1-1 | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
Hyvaa wins Baby wins Zero wins Forgg wins | ||
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Sweden5331 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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hku
169 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:46 revy wrote: It's possible that we have 4 playoffs if: Hyvaa wins Baby wins Zero wins Forgg wins 4 tie breaks? | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/259fhjl.jpg) | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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revy
United States1524 Posts
Group A Kal: 2-1 Flash: 2-1 Hyvaa: 1-1 Kwanro: 0-2 Group B Baby: 2-0 Hwasin: 1-2 Movie: 1-1 Stork: 1-2 Group C Zero: 2-0 Pure: 1-1 Fantasy: 1-2 Calm: 1-2 Group D ForGG: 2-0 go.go: 1-2 Shine: 1-1 Effort: 1-2 | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:42 FireGuyX wrote: Now ForGG just needs to win. forGG has already qualified | ||
Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
 wiki. As you can see only Kwanro is out yet. Group A could have a 2/3 tiebreaker, all the others could have a 1/3. ForGG, Zero, Baby all already in Ro8. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
he means so Effort has a chance to qualify too. | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
HOHOHOOH | ||
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cokencheese
Philippines748 Posts
On April 14 2010 20:44 snowdrift86 wrote: Even a slumping Effort won't dishonor himself to the point of losing to a crap player like go.go. You just made Bisu cry. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
Don't worry. Effort has never beaten Bisu and never will. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
Though perhaps better that movie wins so at least a protoss moves on. would suck if he lose and then hawasin moves on and movie and stork is out. | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On April 14 2010 21:27 lone_hydra wrote: Don't worry. Effort has never beaten Bisu and never will. He beat Bisu in IEF. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104061 | ||
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
then we need baby to beat movie (which he will!) so stork can win the tiebreaker! YEAH! | ||
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Australia13007 Posts
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MourningWould
United States110 Posts
always make epic games always | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
He needs to win to force a playoff to give EffOrt/go.go a chance at advancing. Awesome picture. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On April 14 2010 21:42 Harem wrote: He beat Bisu in IEF. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104061 No korean pro gamer gave a fuck about IEF. Bisu didn't even bother shaving and everyone except Stork got knocked out by a non-progamer. But anyways, I am just in a bad mood Bisu will not win. But glad go.go is finally sucking balls like he should. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Map pictures lovingly borrowed from flamewheel91  <3 Hmmm okay Effort was kind of unexpected. + Show Spoiler + They didn't pay him to throw this one! Just kidding. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
day 6 is gonna be so exciting with all these playoff possibilities | ||
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Sweden132 Posts
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
Day 6 is gonna be... HUUUUUUGE | ||
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yoshi_yoshi
United States440 Posts
On April 14 2010 23:23 RowdierBob wrote: It's weird watching some of these guys play when they're being investigated for match fixing. Well, at least we can be pretty confident that THESE matches aren't fixed. You'd need some serious balls to keep cheating now. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
He's sure making it hard for me to be his fan. | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
poor hwasin. and good to see Calm and Effort picking up their shit | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
Flash vs Kal was super entertaining. The rest I haven't watched but I am happy with the results. Finally Stork won and I hope tomorrow baby wins against Movie to force tie-break. | ||
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United States515 Posts
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United States420 Posts
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
I don't think it'll be worth it either, because if he loses Shine will get 1st place in the group and not him. | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
On April 15 2010 05:09 Lebesgue wrote: Good results. Flash vs Kal was super entertaining. The rest I haven't watched but I am happy with the results. Finally Stork won and I hope tomorrow baby wins against Movie to force tie-break. Can't baby lose on purpose to avoid stork all together? | ||
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JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
Sad to see Kal lose though, so close yet again | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On April 15 2010 08:56 hacpee wrote: Can't baby lose on purpose to avoid stork all together? Well yeah, he can. But from interview with Stork it seems like baby won't do it on purpose... | ||
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Singapore6122 Posts
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United States12190 Posts
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JL_GG
Canada249 Posts
there is a chinese website that already has uploads of all the latest SPL and OSL day 5 games this is the Flash vs Kal one http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/OSL2010/movie_47337.html i have to say the chinese uploaders are way too diligent then again they have 1.3 billion ppl.. Hwasin vs Stork http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/OSL2010/movie_47338.html fantasy vs calm http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/OSL2010/movie_47339.html go.go vs effort http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/OSL2010/movie_47340.html have fun =) PS most games start at around 12 mins PS(again): this is the list of games there are and they are updated every time there is new games and they are faster than youtube most of the times http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/OSL2010/ | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
edit- er that was just the SPL one, my bad. | ||
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JL_GG
Canada249 Posts
On April 15 2010 14:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: It's been up on Nevake for a decent bit, which is TL's streaming channel. edit- er that was just the SPL one, my bad. yeah lol i have jon747 and nevake as my subscriptions on youtube np the chinese one is up rite after the event since they are in the same time zone kind of bored from waiting for youtube so i start searching random chinese sites and found it =) | ||
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Wings
United States999 Posts
Just as Hoejja said in Nal_rA's OldBoy Series... I think Kal pretty much "Forgot how to win" after playing Flash a few times, "He doesn't know how to win anymore." Violet-ish slump incoming as well? In other news, FLASH IS GOD. Kal's build would have raped most other terrans because they would have probably pulled BACK to save their tanks, and thus Kal would have had a mineral bank to supply his interceptors for the rest of the game. Yet, instead, Flash did a GENIUS move and spread out his tanks to attack all the bases SIMULTANEOUSLY, taking advantage of the one true weakness carriers have: their inability to be in several places at once. Great plays from Kal, genius plays from Flash. I think it's safe to say that had Flash pulled back when the carriers popped, he would have lost.... but he's Flash. ridiculous. | ||
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Jaester88
United States143 Posts
On April 15 2010 14:24 JL_GG wrote: yeah lol i have jon747 and nevake as my subscriptions on youtube np the chinese one is up rite after the event since they are in the same time zone kind of bored from waiting for youtube so i start searching random chinese sites and found it =) You can also watch it on the Ongamenet website, which is much higher quality and streams much better. I thought you had to be logged in to do it, but I just tested it, and apparently you don't have to, which means it's available to everyone, which is totally awesome. Go to this link, and it's the 4 latest VODs, in reverse order (i.e. the latest VOD is go.go vs Effort, and the fourth one is Kal vs Flash). http://www.ongamenet.com/broadcasting/tpl/leagueVod.ogn?leagueId=KoreanAir&mIdx=5652# | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
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SubtleArt
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On April 16 2010 00:47 SubtleArt wrote: Any1 else think Flash would have been screwd if Kal didn't transition to carriers? Commentators said late-game Carrier transition was the only way to beat Flash. Flash hardly loses half vs half map battles vs Arbiter Protoss ground army. Kal's HUGE and obvious mistake was letting every expo die as he was pumping Carriers. But the credit goes to Flash...his ability to sense Carriers and destroy every expo right before they start moving around the map. I mean, it's just incredible what he's doing..seeing his gameplay makes me speechless | ||
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lavion
Singapore286 Posts
On April 16 2010 01:07 OneOther wrote: Commentators said late-game Carrier transition was the only way to beat Flash. Flash hardly loses half vs half map battles vs Arbiter Protoss ground army. Kal's HUGE and obvious mistake was letting every expo die as he was pumping Carriers. But the credit goes to Flash...his ability to sense Carriers and destroy every expo right before they start moving around the map. I mean, it's just incredible what he's doing..seeing his gameplay makes me speechless QFT. If Kal decides to be stubborn and carry on using the ground army, flash will just slow push him to death. If you watch mid game, flash was pushing to 7 to set up 2 bases there. 5 base Flash is pretty much unstoppable | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On April 16 2010 01:17 lavion wrote: QFT. If Kal decides to be stubborn and carry on using the ground army, flash will just slow push him to death. If you watch mid game, flash was pushing to 7 to set up 2 bases there. 5 base Flash is pretty much unstoppable Once Flash gets his 4th gas and successfully splits the map, there is almost no way for a Protoss to overcome his perfect turtling. Kal's decision to switch to Carrier was correct. The problem is that he missed his timing. That early +2 attack upgrade on the arbiter was pretty damn obvious. Flash had ample amount of time to make preparation. He should have built less stargates, and attacked with 4 carriers as soon as +1 air attack finishes. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On April 16 2010 01:07 OneOther wrote: Commentators said late-game Carrier transition was the only way to beat Flash. Flash hardly loses half vs half map battles vs Arbiter Protoss ground army. Kal's HUGE and obvious mistake was letting every expo die as he was pumping Carriers. But the credit goes to Flash...his ability to sense Carriers and destroy every expo right before they start moving around the map. I mean, it's just incredible what he's doing..seeing his gameplay makes me speechless Makes sense. I guess the situation's deceptive cause Kal massed expansions with few gates so his macro would have taken a while to kick in anyway | ||
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Ideas
United States8104 Posts
really fucking good game though | ||
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TheTeamLiquidTiger
United States627 Posts
tsk tsk fantasy, had it in the bag but blew it | ||
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kiero
Canada136 Posts
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
On April 16 2010 08:29 kiero wrote: 15:15 of Jon747's video: for a second, it looked like kal learned how to build cannons without pylons o.o *offscreen pylon maybe*? Thats freaky as hell. Anyone see the off screen pylon? | ||
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