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Cresfy
Profile Joined April 2003
Israel977 Posts
December 08 2003 01:48 GMT
#21
On December 08 2003 10:33 hasuwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2003 09:43 Twisted wrote:
Ok!

9/9 pool, 8/9 drone, 9/9 extractor trick and drone, cancel extractor, 10/9 lord. When lord is done, spawn 6 lings, and put hatch on natural, and play from there. Harass the shit out of him with lings, but don't waste them on nothing, he might counter you with like 4 rines + 4 scv while you don't have a sunk up yet.


Going 10/9 then overlord makes you slower. The drone you get will not mine back the amount of minerals you lost by canceling the building by the time your drones come out with a regular 9 overlord



is that why yellow uses that alot?

extractor costs 50, by cancelling u lose 25%, meaning 12.5 minerals, = a bit over 1.5 drone running back and forth, and it's quite likely to do 2 minerals runs in that time ~
yay i won 3.5 minerals ;o

hmz
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 01:48 GMT
#22
But you get the extra hat sooner, and with it more larva, which can be very important depending upon strat.
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Moth
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden468 Posts
December 08 2003 01:53 GMT
#23
On December 08 2003 09:08 aNc-ErlinG- wrote:

BTW u think its ok that i date a 26 year old girl now? o_O O_o



With age they tend to get more "brave" in bed which is pretty nice. However, braggin about it is not.
Its all about the Benjamins
Silverado
Profile Joined May 2003
121 Posts
December 08 2003 02:49 GMT
#24
In the past I was had a lot of success with my 3 pool rush.
I never seen it done before, but it is deadly.
You kill yourself one drone at start, than when you have 150 minerals, you make spawning pool. And as soon you have 150 cash you make 6 lings.

Ok now back on topic. 9 pool is for fast damage. It is one of those do or die things. 9 pool rush is best for countering terran who goes fast expand. Or vs zerg to offensive sunken him. Vs protoss you combine it with ling speed, and you can mess him quite hard, puting 2nd hatch somewhere in between.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 02:53 GMT
#25
On December 08 2003 10:33 hasuwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2003 09:43 Twisted wrote:
Ok!

9/9 pool, 8/9 drone, 9/9 extractor trick and drone, cancel extractor, 10/9 lord. When lord is done, spawn 6 lings, and put hatch on natural, and play from there. Harass the shit out of him with lings, but don't waste them on nothing, he might counter you with like 4 rines + 4 scv while you don't have a sunk up yet.


Going 10/9 then overlord makes you slower. The drone you get will not mine back the amount of minerals you lost by canceling the building by the time your drones come out with a regular 9 overlord


If you stick with 9/9, you have 3 larva a long time, then you make 6 ling, and your new larva will be done when the lings are almost done. I don't see how that extractor trick slows you down, since the 10th drone comes sooo much faster. It will probably do about 5 mineral runs before you could build a drone when you didn't do extractor trick.

Feel free to test it.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 02:58 GMT
#26
I tested it a while ago, and under perfect conditions ext trick sets you back about 5 mins. But you can do so much with that extra drone... I can't account for that.
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Silverado
Profile Joined May 2003
121 Posts
December 08 2003 03:02 GMT
#27
The point of 10/9 build is you dont make overlord long time. And because of that 10th drone helps you a lot. The point of this build
is to have 2nd hatch very early and a lot of lings very fast.

This is I believe perfect way to defend fast expo vs fast zealot rush and terran off bunker.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 03:23 GMT
#28
.... we're talking about 9 pool :[

and 10/9 lord helps with 9 pool, wether you agree or not.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
December 08 2003 03:49 GMT
#29
what about gas? do you go speed? or just skip right to 3hatch?
Take it in the twice beatch!
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 03:58 GMT
#30
There seem to be 3 main ideas with 9 pool:
1) no gas / 6 lings and secure expo (Yellow style)
2) gas / 6 lings, fast lair to lurk (with or without speed)
3) gas / very fast lurk drop (enough slow lings to survive)

Don't see much 3 hat off 9 pool. If you 9 pool you can secure expo with lings, so why 3 hat?
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iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 03:58 GMT
#31
in zvp you can go speed, in zvt it's a waste.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 04:44:51
December 08 2003 04:43 GMT
#32
On December 08 2003 08:28 =[aBs]=Coban wrote:
anyone got some good 9pool builds?
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
December 08 2003 05:18 GMT
#33
amat from useast? i remember i use to 3v3 with you and ydoialwaysdie on LT for 6 :D
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TreKloVesRekrul
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden43 Posts
December 08 2003 05:26 GMT
#34
chojja was so cool when i saw him before...he always upgrades zling speed..and if he got inside terran or toss or zerg base he would continue it else he would cancel and make lair and continue mining gas or he would make a hatch in his choke...ur pick
ahh rekrul is handsome
[CS]Pablo
Profile Joined September 2002
Brazil338 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 05:44:12
December 08 2003 05:36 GMT
#35
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=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
December 08 2003 06:07 GMT
#36
hes 19... if your 19 and you get a girlfriend- you cant call her your 'wife' thats just disgusting.
Take it in the twice beatch!
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
December 08 2003 06:12 GMT
#37
pablo probably isnt 19 and he's probably married though coban!
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10476 Posts
December 08 2003 06:32 GMT
#38
pool, drone, lord, gas, drone, 6 lings, lair. 9 pool sux vs terran though
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10476 Posts
December 08 2003 06:39 GMT
#39
stim + med + scan finishes before lurkers
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
December 08 2003 06:52 GMT
#40
On December 08 2003 14:36 [CS]Pablo wrote:my wife is 26, and I love it

You mean, you love "her"?
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