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=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
December 07 2003 23:28 GMT
#1
anyone got some good 9pool builds?
Take it in the twice beatch!
cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
December 07 2003 23:33 GMT
#2
--- Nuked ---
Be cool.
RickJSanchez
Profile Joined March 2003
United States1585 Posts
December 07 2003 23:34 GMT
#3
for being in aBs, im surprised you made this lame thread.
pemos1:have u ever heard of me? RickJSanchez:just from wgtour pemos1:o thats it? lol.RickJSanchez:that about it pemosl:wow :[ pemosl:im pretty known on west
=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
December 07 2003 23:56 GMT
#4
'for being so stupid than judging me by the name you should go fuck yourself with a banana' HAHAHAH ROFL MAO.

geeez, do you know how old i am? do you know how much i play? do you think i dont know how to do a 9pool? i want comments and feedback, techniques, not lame comments like the two above, theres a reason i ask- not to be 'flamed' by a 13 year old.
Take it in the twice beatch!
Fever_tr
Profile Joined February 2003
Turkey222 Posts
December 07 2003 23:59 GMT
#5
9 pool builds?
lots of them..

1)make drones till 9 then pool
2)make drones till 9 then pool
3)make drones till 9 then pool
4)...
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=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
December 08 2003 00:05 GMT
#6
wow- im am stunned by your unusual intruiging reflections..

i guess its my fault for not being more accurate in my first post
Take it in the twice beatch!
aNc-ErlinG-
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway33 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 00:10:44
December 08 2003 00:08 GMT
#7
Heh, you have to excuse them Coban. They have never experienced the things we have. Brood war is their life and they are probably geeks and get teased in school. One day they will hopefully understand

BTW u think its ok that i date a 26 year old girl now? o_O O_o

Here is 2 9 pool build i know:

9 pool gas lurker drop
9 pool hatch hatch then gas on both main and ekspos

Kenka is bad manner :P
RickJSanchez
Profile Joined March 2003
United States1585 Posts
December 08 2003 00:11 GMT
#8
its your fault for making this useless thread.

your other 22 posts werent as dumb as this one, were they?
pemos1:have u ever heard of me? RickJSanchez:just from wgtour pemos1:o thats it? lol.RickJSanchez:that about it pemosl:wow :[ pemosl:im pretty known on west
=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 00:15:07
December 08 2003 00:12 GMT
#9
i dont think of that at all erling, you should try to aim for the 'MILF'- this is what we all should do.. its been a while since my last MILF but i always aim for the MILF, no point in going for lesser
Take it in the twice beatch!
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
December 08 2003 00:15 GMT
#10
erling you fucking loser stop acting cool nobody likes you and your terran sucks!
that 26 year old probably a virgin desperatly looking for sex ended up with you as the only possibilty
Team Liquid
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
December 08 2003 00:15 GMT
#11
oh and 9 pool from 12 is the best opening, you can lord hide if terran is 3, and it's a good start for a safe 3 hatch build vs any kind of bunker build.
Team Liquid
aNc-ErlinG-
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway33 Posts
December 08 2003 00:17 GMT
#12
I dont care if my terran sux. I dont care if someone on internet that doesnt speak up for themselv RL hates me. I earn more money than you will ever earn out of brood war, so shhh
Kenka is bad manner :P
Li.Echo
Profile Joined November 2003
United States122 Posts
December 08 2003 00:29 GMT
#13
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amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 00:37 GMT
#14
On December 08 2003 09:17 aNc-ErlinG- wrote:
I dont care if my terran sux. I dont care if someone on internet that doesnt speak up for themselv RL hates me. I earn more money than you will ever earn out of brood war, so shhh


Ret had the chance to make a good amount of money at WCG, but he didn't practice... Another display of poor judgement?

Anyhow, Yellow and Chojja seem to like 9 pool in big games, no matter the positions; just play until you understand the nuances. Or, maybe dudey will respond; he is the 9 pool king

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iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 00:43 GMT
#15
Ok!

9/9 pool, 8/9 drone, 9/9 extractor trick and drone, cancel extractor, 10/9 lord. When lord is done, spawn 6 lings, and put hatch on natural, and play from there. Harass the shit out of him with lings, but don't waste them on nothing, he might counter you with like 4 rines + 4 scv while you don't have a sunk up yet.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 08 2003 00:45 GMT
#16
funny how people still call him dudey.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 00:48 GMT
#17
Oh btw, if you take his gas while 9 pooling, it will delay him a lot too. Basically when you 9 pool, you almost *have* to go for a 3 hatch build. If you take his gas, and he has to cover his choke with his marines (and scv's most likely), he can't kill the gas fast, forcing him (almost) to do something like quick expand, or 3 rax m&m. This way you can power up relatively easy. If he goes 3 rax, best is to get lurker a bit faster too though
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
forb
Profile Joined February 2003
Norway218 Posts
December 08 2003 00:55 GMT
#18
Erling, you stopped playing? i never see you anymore :/
:()
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 00:59 GMT
#19
One I've been using lately is 9 gas/9 pool to lurk drop. Once you have 11 drones make non-stop lings.

The terran with either contain you, or rush with rines/scv. Ignore the contain. If they rush, you will own the rush with slow lings. Then just start dropping like a madwoman.
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
December 08 2003 01:33 GMT
#20
On December 08 2003 09:43 Twisted wrote:
Ok!

9/9 pool, 8/9 drone, 9/9 extractor trick and drone, cancel extractor, 10/9 lord. When lord is done, spawn 6 lings, and put hatch on natural, and play from there. Harass the shit out of him with lings, but don't waste them on nothing, he might counter you with like 4 rines + 4 scv while you don't have a sunk up yet.


Going 10/9 then overlord makes you slower. The drone you get will not mine back the amount of minerals you lost by canceling the building by the time your drones come out with a regular 9 overlord
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Cresfy
Profile Joined April 2003
Israel977 Posts
December 08 2003 01:48 GMT
#21
On December 08 2003 10:33 hasuwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2003 09:43 Twisted wrote:
Ok!

9/9 pool, 8/9 drone, 9/9 extractor trick and drone, cancel extractor, 10/9 lord. When lord is done, spawn 6 lings, and put hatch on natural, and play from there. Harass the shit out of him with lings, but don't waste them on nothing, he might counter you with like 4 rines + 4 scv while you don't have a sunk up yet.


Going 10/9 then overlord makes you slower. The drone you get will not mine back the amount of minerals you lost by canceling the building by the time your drones come out with a regular 9 overlord



is that why yellow uses that alot?

extractor costs 50, by cancelling u lose 25%, meaning 12.5 minerals, = a bit over 1.5 drone running back and forth, and it's quite likely to do 2 minerals runs in that time ~
yay i won 3.5 minerals ;o

hmz
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 01:48 GMT
#22
But you get the extra hat sooner, and with it more larva, which can be very important depending upon strat.
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Moth
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden468 Posts
December 08 2003 01:53 GMT
#23
On December 08 2003 09:08 aNc-ErlinG- wrote:

BTW u think its ok that i date a 26 year old girl now? o_O O_o



With age they tend to get more "brave" in bed which is pretty nice. However, braggin about it is not.
Its all about the Benjamins
Silverado
Profile Joined May 2003
121 Posts
December 08 2003 02:49 GMT
#24
In the past I was had a lot of success with my 3 pool rush.
I never seen it done before, but it is deadly.
You kill yourself one drone at start, than when you have 150 minerals, you make spawning pool. And as soon you have 150 cash you make 6 lings.

Ok now back on topic. 9 pool is for fast damage. It is one of those do or die things. 9 pool rush is best for countering terran who goes fast expand. Or vs zerg to offensive sunken him. Vs protoss you combine it with ling speed, and you can mess him quite hard, puting 2nd hatch somewhere in between.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 02:53 GMT
#25
On December 08 2003 10:33 hasuwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2003 09:43 Twisted wrote:
Ok!

9/9 pool, 8/9 drone, 9/9 extractor trick and drone, cancel extractor, 10/9 lord. When lord is done, spawn 6 lings, and put hatch on natural, and play from there. Harass the shit out of him with lings, but don't waste them on nothing, he might counter you with like 4 rines + 4 scv while you don't have a sunk up yet.


Going 10/9 then overlord makes you slower. The drone you get will not mine back the amount of minerals you lost by canceling the building by the time your drones come out with a regular 9 overlord


If you stick with 9/9, you have 3 larva a long time, then you make 6 ling, and your new larva will be done when the lings are almost done. I don't see how that extractor trick slows you down, since the 10th drone comes sooo much faster. It will probably do about 5 mineral runs before you could build a drone when you didn't do extractor trick.

Feel free to test it.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 02:58 GMT
#26
I tested it a while ago, and under perfect conditions ext trick sets you back about 5 mins. But you can do so much with that extra drone... I can't account for that.
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Silverado
Profile Joined May 2003
121 Posts
December 08 2003 03:02 GMT
#27
The point of 10/9 build is you dont make overlord long time. And because of that 10th drone helps you a lot. The point of this build
is to have 2nd hatch very early and a lot of lings very fast.

This is I believe perfect way to defend fast expo vs fast zealot rush and terran off bunker.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 03:23 GMT
#28
.... we're talking about 9 pool :[

and 10/9 lord helps with 9 pool, wether you agree or not.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
December 08 2003 03:49 GMT
#29
what about gas? do you go speed? or just skip right to 3hatch?
Take it in the twice beatch!
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 08 2003 03:58 GMT
#30
There seem to be 3 main ideas with 9 pool:
1) no gas / 6 lings and secure expo (Yellow style)
2) gas / 6 lings, fast lair to lurk (with or without speed)
3) gas / very fast lurk drop (enough slow lings to survive)

Don't see much 3 hat off 9 pool. If you 9 pool you can secure expo with lings, so why 3 hat?
Proud Mensrea No-Prize Winner. Click the Banner Ads. I would keep a lamer list, but I love you all.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 03:58 GMT
#31
in zvp you can go speed, in zvt it's a waste.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 04:44:51
December 08 2003 04:43 GMT
#32
On December 08 2003 08:28 =[aBs]=Coban wrote:
anyone got some good 9pool builds?
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
December 08 2003 05:18 GMT
#33
amat from useast? i remember i use to 3v3 with you and ydoialwaysdie on LT for 6 :D
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TreKloVesRekrul
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden43 Posts
December 08 2003 05:26 GMT
#34
chojja was so cool when i saw him before...he always upgrades zling speed..and if he got inside terran or toss or zerg base he would continue it else he would cancel and make lair and continue mining gas or he would make a hatch in his choke...ur pick
ahh rekrul is handsome
[CS]Pablo
Profile Joined September 2002
Brazil338 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 05:44:12
December 08 2003 05:36 GMT
#35
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
There is a catenoid of idempotents in the coquaternion ring
=[aBs]=Coban
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway48 Posts
December 08 2003 06:07 GMT
#36
hes 19... if your 19 and you get a girlfriend- you cant call her your 'wife' thats just disgusting.
Take it in the twice beatch!
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
December 08 2003 06:12 GMT
#37
pablo probably isnt 19 and he's probably married though coban!
Team Liquid
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10475 Posts
December 08 2003 06:32 GMT
#38
pool, drone, lord, gas, drone, 6 lings, lair. 9 pool sux vs terran though
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10475 Posts
December 08 2003 06:39 GMT
#39
stim + med + scan finishes before lurkers
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
December 08 2003 06:52 GMT
#40
On December 08 2003 14:36 [CS]Pablo wrote:my wife is 26, and I love it

You mean, you love "her"?
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10475 Posts
December 08 2003 06:56 GMT
#41
no he mean "it." after he inflates it of course
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
December 08 2003 07:15 GMT
#42
I think anc-erling should be voted off the teamliquid island.

You seriously suck at life buddy.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
[CS]Pablo
Profile Joined September 2002
Brazil338 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 07:15:36
December 08 2003 07:15 GMT
#43
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
There is a catenoid of idempotents in the coquaternion ring
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
December 08 2003 07:26 GMT
#44
i prefer doing extractor 10/9 build when going 9 pool
just as twisted wrote

12-13 2nd hatch
15-16 3rd hatch
sunk,drones,gas,ect,ect

think its the best way to go in a zvt after doing a 9 pool
maThRaf
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada213 Posts
December 08 2003 07:48 GMT
#45
from now on pablo you will see the same pussy for the rest of your life isnt that thought depressing?
DOnT be sCared, neveR
uLti-ScT-
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany104 Posts
December 08 2003 07:54 GMT
#46
yeah twisted but the build order is: 9/9 pool 8/9 drone 9/9 overlord extractor trick 10/9 drone
the other way round it slows your overlord down too much
TT
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 08:24 GMT
#47
Ehrr no : )

It's like I described. Lord is finished just as pool pops in.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
December 08 2003 08:32 GMT
#48
9 pool
10/9 lord
6 lings
200 ore -> send drone to nat to expo
2 more lings then drones again
extractor
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 08 2003 08:43 GMT
#49
6 ling is enough. Building 2 more is a waste of 1 good larva and money.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
PheaRSome
Profile Joined December 2002
United States584 Posts
December 08 2003 08:59 GMT
#50
On December 08 2003 09:12 =[aBs]=Coban wrote:
i dont think of that at all erling, you should try to aim for the 'MILF'- this is what we all should do.. its been a while since my last MILF but i always aim for the MILF, no point in going for lesser


haha wow.
[CS]Pablo
Profile Joined September 2002
Brazil338 Posts
December 08 2003 12:36 GMT
#51
On December 08 2003 16:48 maThRaf wrote:
from now on pablo you will see the same pussy for the rest of your life isnt that thought depressing?


Not at all. Here's a rep of me vs her, and you'll begin to understand

http://www.geocities.com/pabloemanuel2/PabloVsVivi.zip
There is a catenoid of idempotents in the coquaternion ring
aNc-ErlinG-
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway33 Posts
December 08 2003 13:18 GMT
#52
Hey dont hate me for looking good buddy.
Just vote me off that island, i dont care
Kenka is bad manner :P
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-08 13:55:16
December 08 2003 13:54 GMT
#53
[QUOTE]On December 08 2003 22:18 aNc-ErlinG- wrote:
Hey dont hate me for looking good buddy.
[QUOTE]

lol ^^
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
December 08 2003 13:55 GMT
#54
You dont look good at all. Ever.

Youre a stuck up, snobby, arrogant asshole who actually never contributes anything good.

I really think you should just do the human race a favor and eliminate yourself from the gene pool.

:[
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
December 08 2003 15:04 GMT
#55
Oh yeah. 9 pool.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
December 08 2003 16:03 GMT
#56
wow. a wife that plays bw? woah, ur life is complete dude :p
i tried hard but i couldnt get my gf to play... wats ur secret?
A firebat to your Zergling.
blahblahblah
Profile Joined May 2004
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-24 15:35:50
May 24 2004 15:31 GMT
#57
On December 08 2003 09:48 Twisted wrote:
Oh btw, if you take his gas while 9 pooling, it will delay him a lot too. Basically when you 9 pool, you almost *have* to go for a 3 hatch build. If you take his gas, and he has to cover his choke with his marines (and scv's most likely), he can't kill the gas fast, forcing him (almost) to do something like quick expand, or 3 rax m&m. This way you can power up relatively easy. If he goes 3 rax, best is to get lurker a bit faster too though


why do you have to go 3 hatch?
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 24 2004 16:51 GMT
#58
Because lurker rush sucks, and going 2 hatch after and immidiately going for lair kills your eco.

Though I do lots of 2 hatch builds after 9 pool, but really the only time when I 9 pool is when I'm on 12, that's probably why I said it. On 12 you have to do some 3 hatch build or do something awkward which probably sucks.
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 24 2004 17:22 GMT
#59
meh
9 pool 6 lings
if lings do good damage
lair
lurker/sacs
elevate 2 lurks when he leaves
expand
2 fast lord drop him again
mass up, attack with ling/lurk when he expands

if lings do nothing
cancel lair
expand, ling speed
put 1 drone on gas
cycle lings/drones (~1.5 egg lings to 1 drone)
win fight at expansion with flank lings and/or ling counterattack
get muta and kill him
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 24 2004 17:23 GMT
#60
9 pool is worthless unless the t has no barracks in his main
JAM THE FUCKER!
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