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It starts at around 3:20. You can see how Jaedong places his hand on the keyboard. I would just like to ask you guys on how do you do this. For me, I used to use 5-0 for hatcheries and I hit them with my left index finger.
Mine:
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5 - left index finger (though sometimes I take my right hand off my mouse and use my right index finger)
s - middle finger
d - index finger
Lings:
s - middle finger
z - ring finger
Muta:
s - ring finger
m - index finger
Ultra:
s - middle finger
u - index finger
Defiler:
s - middle finger
f - index finger
Hydra:
s - middle finger
h - index finger
Overlord:
s - middle finger
o - index finger
Scourge:
s - middle finger
s - middle finger
I saw Jaedong's hand placement on that video and I was like "dang, new hotkeys babeh"
I think his goes like this.
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Left Index - Numbers (I think)
Left Middle - Numbers too (I think)
Left Ring - s, a
Left Pink - ctrl, z (maybe, but it's kinda hard for me. I don't know for him)
Thumb - space bar, m
I don't know about how he places his hand on other keys. Can you guys help me figure it out?
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pretty interesting, i guess i will take a look after i finish eating and watching the gom matches
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This is how like every Zerg plays hand position wise
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they show his Lhand on one of the shows and it's totally standard, if he's based on 4 he's got his ring on S and works and if he's based on 1 he's got unit stuff going
he also has his pinkie bent very far (like pretty much every top korean zerg) so that he can keep his ring and pinkie locked into position, his index and middle are hooked at medium tension and he moves his arm not his wrist
he also mashes the hell out of his mouse and keyboard and never doubleissues
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Uh thats pretty much all standard I think.
I use that but use pinky for not only ctrl but also a, s and other keys located there.
Well actually I don't even use pinky for ctrl anymore but the part of my hand that is under the pinky.
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how do you normally type with your left hand?
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for mine, this is how it goes:
4sd5sd6sd(drone production during micro with mutas)
4-middle finger
s-pinkie finger
d-ring finger
5~0-index finger
4sh5sh6sh7sh8sh(5hatch hydra)
4~5-middle finger
s-pinkie finger
h-index finger
6~0-index finger
4sm5sm6sm(3hatch mutas)
4-middle finger
5~6-index finger
s-pinkie finger
m-thumb
I usually hotkey 1-3 for lings/hydras, 4-9 for hatcheries, 0 for lurkers (cos i can afford to reach for U and Ctrl and Shift buttons)
My F2 is towards main to upgrade/research/building, F3 for rallied area, F4 is anywhere if i wanted to do a flank, so i use F3 and F4 for that..
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These threads always turn into a "Post your hotkeys!" thread :p
I really don't have anything to add on Jaedong's handposition except that it seems pretty standard for Zerg players with regards to their hotkeys (unless you're me and do 1sh2s3sh4sh5sh6sh7sh :p)
I'm just shocked at how fucking fast he is. Jesus.
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On April 05 2009 23:55 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
These threads always turn into a "Post your hotkeys!" thread :p
I really don't have anything to add on Jaedong's handposition except that it seems pretty standard for Zerg players with regards to their hotkeys (unless you're me and do 1sh2s3sh4sh5sh6sh7sh :p)
I'm just shocked at how fucking fast he is. Jesus.
Lol! Pardon me.. But i guess that's kinda standard for all zergs, probably a little in the way pinkie finger may not be used rather than ring finger..
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Kentor
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i think he uses alt+# a lot so his pinky is on alt? i thinkkkkk
never mind. thought i saw that in the video
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ForGG had the wierdest hand placement ive ever seen
I don't know how he hotkeys but his hands just looked rly wierdly placed / crooked (sort of) when i saw him live
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Yeah I hotkey the same way as the OP. It's the type of hand-positionning you have to unlearn from playing FPSs (or any other game that requires that type of navigation):
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middle finger on W
index on D
ring finger on A
thumb on space bar
pinky on shift and ctrl
I'm still doing it this way because i'm more comfortable, but i may be switching some time soon since i'm back to SC for the long run 
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On April 06 2009 00:24 Hammy wrote:Yeah I hotkey the same way as the OP. It's the type of hand-positionning you have to unlearn from playing FPSs (or any other game that requires that type of navigation): + Show Spoiler +
middle finger on W
index on D
ring finger on A
thumb on space bar
pinky on shift and ctrl
I'm still doing it this way because i'm more comfortable, but i may be switching some time soon since i'm back to SC for the long run
Yeah, I used to play CS before playing DotA then SC.
I think I have to study how to do en masse hydras using 5~0 with one hand because I used the style of Day[9], I think. I take my right hand from my mouse to press 5~0. But, atm, I use F2 for my main filled with hatcheries and 6~0 are my expos.
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Can someone direct me to a thread that expands on this? I haven't found any so far..
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I'm nodding over here with what red.venom said, only middle finger S/index finger O for overlord??
That is a huuuge stretch.
I go pinky on S and index finger on O
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On April 05 2009 22:07 red.venom wrote:
This is how like every Zerg plays hand position wise
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I don't play that way hand position wise.
And I am a zerg.
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just wait till sc2, where every importnat hotkey will be on F, D, S, or A, like it is now in wc3.
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Because that is so relevant to SC:BW.
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On April 06 2009 04:36 esla_sol wrote:
just wait till sc2, where every importnat hotkey will be on F, D, S, or A, like it is now in wc3.
i think most of the important hotkeys in SC are positioned on or around w, a, s, and m. (atleast, unit upgrades)
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JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D
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On April 06 2009 04:48 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2009 04:36 esla_sol wrote:
just wait till sc2, where every importnat hotkey will be on F, D, S, or A, like it is now in wc3. i think most of the important hotkeys in SC are positioned on or around w, a, s, and m. (atleast, unit upgrades)
Not true. Terran Vehicle Plating for example.
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Does anyone know have a vid showing Jaedong's hand when he plays or have a good idea on which fingers he used to press certain keys. Also, how the hell does he control 2 groups of Mutalisk as if they're on the same control group?
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On April 06 2009 05:33 arsenic wrote:
JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D
dont think so
he rarely if ever uses 9 and 0
he mostly uses 4-7
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On April 06 2009 10:45 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2009 05:33 arsenic wrote:
JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D dont think so he rarely if ever uses 9 and 0 he mostly uses 4-7
I believe he uses the same as me, 5 for main, 6 for nat, 7 for 3rd hatch, 4 for expo. I'm not too sure about this.
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it would be great to be a zerg player with really short pinky/ring/middle fingers to maneuver easily around those close-together keys, and then have a freakishly long index/thumb for reaching across your hatchery keys
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On April 06 2009 10:52 WindCalibur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2009 10:45 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On April 06 2009 05:33 arsenic wrote:
JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D dont think so he rarely if ever uses 9 and 0 he mostly uses 4-7 I believe he uses the same as me, 5 for main, 6 for nat, 7 for 3rd hatch, 4 for expo. I'm not too sure about this.
just open bwchart
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when I play zerg I do
muta:
s-pinky
m-thumb
its easy to cycle though my hatches with my ring mid and index finger already on numbers.
I couldn't imagine moving my hand all the way down ....
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Use your feet together with your hand, you can cover more keys.
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On April 06 2009 02:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
I'm nodding over here with what red.venom said, only middle finger S/index finger O for overlord??
That is a huuuge stretch.
I go pinky on S and index finger on O
Yep I barely stretch that far and I'm 2m tall and have the biggest hands of anyone I know. There is no way to do that comfortably or fast.
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I still don't know how to use the F2 thru F8... do u do Ctrl + F2 to assign location?
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You can only just F2, F3 and F4. Shift+F2~F4 saves the location. Press F2~4 to go back to that location or "screen".
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After trying to practice using this hand positioning real fast, I've realized it kinda looks like the shocker.
But you know what ever wins an osl shouldn't really be made fun of. Go Jaedong.
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We weren't making fun of it, I would really like to copy how he places his hands so to increase efficiency and get faster. When I think of it, ring on s and thumb on m is faster than index on m.
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What key does he press A with do you guys think?
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OP is worthless without pics.
Also notice in the video how JD's pinky is all stiff and awkward looking lol
PS, I do his position when macroing.
but I switch when battling. I use middle and pointer for numbers, burrow, H, etc and thumb for ctrl, shift, A, S, spacebar.
Actually my hand switches around all the time sometimes I use my thumb for B, to build and closest finger for whatever building. Other times I'll move my hand down and use pointer, middle, and index.
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I FUCKING HATE SCOURGES!!
1ss,2ss, *THINKING TO MYSELF IN HEAD - " OH FUCK, ACCIDENTAL PUSH OF THE 's' BUTTON!*, 3ss, *"FUCK, NOT AGAIN!"*, 4ss, 5sh *"FUCKING FINALLY, YES YES YES!!!"*
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On April 05 2009 23:29 kaleidoscope wrote:+ Show Spoiler +for mine, this is how it goes:
4sd5sd6sd(drone production during micro with mutas)
4-middle finger
s-pinkie finger
d-ring finger
5~0-index finger
4sh5sh6sh7sh8sh(5hatch hydra)
4~5-middle finger
s-pinkie finger
h-index finger
6~0-index finger
4sm5sm6sm(3hatch mutas)
4-middle finger
5~6-index finger
s-pinkie finger
m-thumb
I usually hotkey 1-3 for lings/hydras, 4-9 for hatcheries, 0 for lurkers (cos i can afford to reach for U and Ctrl and Shift buttons)
My F2 is towards main to upgrade/research/building, F3 for rallied area, F4 is anywhere if i wanted to do a flank, so i use F3 and F4 for that..
I use the same hotkeys with the exception of 0 for lurkers and the F-keys 
I'm just a beginning ZvP player though. Nice to know I'm doing something right XD
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Haha, I've ALWAYS taken my hand off the mouse when I hotkey macro. One hand hits the numbers, the other hits the letters.
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On May 03 2009 11:40 Disintegrate wrote:
I FUCKING HATE SCOURGES!!
1ss,2ss, *THINKING TO MYSELF IN HEAD - " OH FUCK, ACCIDENTAL PUSH OF THE 's' BUTTON!*, 3ss, *"FUCK, NOT AGAIN!"*, 4ss, 5sh *"FUCKING FINALLY, YES YES YES!!!"*
You can do what July does, he uses hotkeys to clone them.
1 - 12 scourge
2 - 10
3 - 8
3 - 6 and so on and so forth
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On May 04 2009 06:09 Batibot323 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 11:40 Disintegrate wrote:
I FUCKING HATE SCOURGES!!
1ss,2ss, *THINKING TO MYSELF IN HEAD - " OH FUCK, ACCIDENTAL PUSH OF THE 's' BUTTON!*, 3ss, *"FUCK, NOT AGAIN!"*, 4ss, 5sh *"FUCKING FINALLY, YES YES YES!!!"* You can do what July does, he uses hotkeys to clone them. 1 - 12 scourge 2 - 10 3 - 8 3 - 6 and so on and so forth
I believe he means accidentally making scourges when spawning units from hatcheries, for ex:
When you have your hatchery hotkeyed to 5 and you want to make some hydras it would be 5sh, but a common mistake to make is to press 5ss and make scourge instead.
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On May 04 2009 06:09 Batibot323 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 11:40 Disintegrate wrote:
I FUCKING HATE SCOURGES!!
1ss,2ss, *THINKING TO MYSELF IN HEAD - " OH FUCK, ACCIDENTAL PUSH OF THE 's' BUTTON!*, 3ss, *"FUCK, NOT AGAIN!"*, 4ss, 5sh *"FUCKING FINALLY, YES YES YES!!!"* You can do what July does, he uses hotkeys to clone them. 1 - 12 scourge 2 - 10 3 - 8 3 - 6 and so on and so forth
??? did you read his post?????
He was complaining about mis hotkeying.
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On May 01 2009 09:53 CharlieMurphy wrote:OP is worthless without pics. Also notice in the video how JD's pinky is all stiff and awkward looking lol PS, I do his position when macroing. but I switch when battling. I use middle and pointer for numbers, burrow, H, etc and thumb for ctrl, shift, A, S, spacebar. Actually my hand switches around all the time sometimes I use my thumb for B, to build and closest finger for whatever building. Other times I'll move my hand down and use pointer, middle, and index.
where is the pic taken from?
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I actually click the number keys with my nose
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On May 04 2009 08:50 LRM)TechnicS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 09:53 CharlieMurphy wrote:OP is worthless without pics. Also notice in the video how JD's pinky is all stiff and awkward looking lol PS, I do his position when macroing. but I switch when battling. I use middle and pointer for numbers, burrow, H, etc and thumb for ctrl, shift, A, S, spacebar. Actually my hand switches around all the time sometimes I use my thumb for B, to build and closest finger for whatever building. Other times I'll move my hand down and use pointer, middle, and index. where is the pic taken from?
I searched keyboard on google, then I drew on it..
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Norway28659 Posts
hm I use middle finger for pressing hotkey, ringfinger for s and index for everything cept ling and muta, where I use pinky and thumb respectively
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