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Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
May 23 2009 19:16 GMT
#201
Repost (no response, pg 6)

Stylish:

Hey, do you think you could add the effects and cost effectiveness of each upgrade?

For example in your mech game FPVOD you mention that +attack vs hydras and +armor vs mutas/lings. I'm pretty sure I remember other bits of advice but as a whole it is very fragmented and not at all concise. It would be excellent to have a good summary on each upgrade ours and P/Z and the effect of say + 1 atk vs + armor for Toss, etc.

Also, in each set of upgrades, mention which you should get first, etc. For example Stim over Range unless bunker or whatnot. Thanks, your VODs have been immensely helpful.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
Hundredth
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom142 Posts
May 23 2009 19:52 GMT
#202
Another Q on your TvT build :p

Can it be used effectively on maps such as Medusa, Tau Cross or Othello? Each of these maps seem to favour dropship play because you can siege their nat/main from a cliff. I played someone who did this to me on Othello (fac/port then dropped 2 tanks there) and it put me at a pretty big disadvantage.

How to do you change this build? Or do you just go fac/port or fac cc into tankgol or a completely different build?
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 23 2009 20:26 GMT
#203
I'm currently ill again, feaver and stuff.. I was hoping to make VODs this weekend and I hope I feel better tomorrow.. will answer questions when I feel better again sry.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
May 24 2009 02:49 GMT
#204
On May 24 2009 05:26 StylishVODs wrote:
I'm currently ill again, feaver and stuff.. I was hoping to make VODs this weekend and I hope I feel better tomorrow.. will answer questions when I feel better again sry.

try to recover quickly
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 24 2009 07:16 GMT
#205
Hm, I have a Q for tvp.
When doing a rather standard siege expand and toss gets 4 bases, how should you react to this? I have some trouble harassing him with vultures due to cannons/good goon placement, and I still don't feel like I dont have enough to break him with a push until his 3 bases are kicking in.
Should I go 6/7 factory and aim for a quick push, perhaps around 120? And if so, where should i push?
Should I dump a couple of tank at one expo and contain him in front of his nat, sending some reinforcements to his other nat?

I just have so much trouble stopping a toss from expanding heavily - maybe my timing is still off...
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ZeKk
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sweden320 Posts
May 24 2009 16:46 GMT
#206
Hey stylish. Long time no see. So ur sick again? I had the "magsjukan" this week, u got that too?

I need some help with my TvP again.

Let's say I did a 2 fac opening much like urs on a crossed position on Othello, vs 14 nexus. I fail the attack even though I kill a few probes and mess around with him and kill some of he's force, I manage to be 20 psi behind. I take a quciker third since I know im behind. He keep exping and Im not even close to he's psi even though he dosent use all he's money effectivliy, far from it. I do a push to one of he's expo's but get repelled. I later do some haressing to him manage to kill all he's templars and some probes. But he's still 50 psi ahead of me. I know I have to try stopping he's expoing So I go for it again but I get overrun and totally owned, with almost no loses from he' side and the game is ended.

How Do I fight Protoss on this map when it's crossd pos? I mean he's mobility means he dominates me as a terran, how can I neglect that? I get stressed cuz I know I have to stop him before he get too big, but instead it seems he's getting stronger from it.

second game it was crossd position again but I did ur drop strat this time vs 2 gate range >expo, and things looked more clearar. I killed some probes even had a bunker up there. I had 3 facs pumping but he still got more units and more money(1 k almost) and he only pumped from 2 gates. I attacked with my foce but I got neglected as before even though he's forces some of he's forces was disoriented and easy targets. My expo is of course done slightly after this failed attack. He kills my early third after that, Im back only having one expo. (Ok I get that im behind after losing my CC. But what I dont get is when I kill an expo he's not rly behind. They say P needs one more expo to keep up with terran but they can't mean this early in the game since it seems terran would need +1 base to keep up with p). Anyways im losing that game too of an overrunning protoss.

Im a quiet aggressive terran but when I play against protoss and try to attack often it just seems they're getting stronger from it. I know crossed position isnt the best to be aggressive on, but still.
Protoss didn't do any haress on me. I fight so hard and get nothing in return.

Is an aggressive style unthinkable nowadays against protoss or what do you say? Or should I just stay with FE everygame unless he's rly close to me and then I could do some rushes? This game will be very predictable if one are forced to go fe as the only reliable option in crossed position.

I could show u the reps but im not sure u'll watch them.

p.s I Know this sounds alot like whine and it partly is. I just don't get it :O. But that dosen't mean Im giving up
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 31 2009 06:29 GMT
#207
How do you get maps that you can start with only yourself to practice on your BO?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 31 2009 07:03 GMT
#208
On May 31 2009 15:29 nayumi wrote:
How do you get maps that you can start with only yourself to practice on your BO?

You don't need special maps for that. You just add a computer to a slot in multiplayer and remove it as the countdown timer is starting. When the game starts it will ask if you want to end the mission or continue playing; just continue playing.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 31 2009 07:32 GMT
#209
On May 31 2009 16:03 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2009 15:29 nayumi wrote:
How do you get maps that you can start with only yourself to practice on your BO?

You don't need special maps for that. You just add a computer to a slot in multiplayer and remove it as the countdown timer is starting. When the game starts it will ask if you want to end the mission or continue playing; just continue playing.

Thank you <3
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 31 2009 08:47 GMT
#210
rofl nice banner
merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
June 08 2009 00:59 GMT
#211
Hey stylish, what do you suggest doing vs 2fact vultures if your doing the 1fact Fe build TvT?
ZeKk
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sweden320 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 15:28:43
June 09 2009 15:28 GMT
#212
Stylish has abandon us, oh no T_T
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 09 2009 15:53 GMT
#213
On June 10 2009 00:28 ZeKk wrote:
Stylish has abandon us, oh no T_T


I think he focuses more on his FPVods thread recently. Tho Stylish leaves the BW scene in just a few days
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 09 2009 21:57 GMT
#214
On May 31 2009 15:29 nayumi wrote:
How do you get maps that you can start with only yourself to practice on your BO?

I think the traning map types in the map section here let you play alone.
I lol in ur general direction
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
June 20 2009 15:01 GMT
#215
Added to recommended threads. Thank you.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17732 Posts
June 21 2009 15:53 GMT
#216
On June 10 2009 06:57 Caffeine_Free wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2009 15:29 nayumi wrote:
How do you get maps that you can start with only yourself to practice on your BO?

I think the traning map types in the map section here let you play alone.

at the countdown remove the comp from slot and at the start press c and split
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
foam)millipede
Profile Joined May 2009
United States24 Posts
June 21 2009 18:34 GMT
#217
Thanks alot man, this is awesome!
Hello there.
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
June 21 2009 22:58 GMT
#218
Thanks man! Good luck with your studies!
2on2
Profile Joined April 2009
United States142 Posts
June 23 2009 16:42 GMT
#219
I refer to this thread often and watch all the VODs and wanna say THANKS for your contributions!
OMin
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States545 Posts
June 24 2009 02:25 GMT
#220
Hi!

Thanks for all these great builds/vods, they are awesome! It's very kind of you!

I'm wondering... how would you counter 10/15 gate with weak FD or fast cc siege expand (flash build)?

Especially without a wall, I find it extremely difficult to stop
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