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omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
November 20 2007 22:20 GMT
#41
On November 21 2007 06:14 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2007 02:31 XCetron wrote:
On November 21 2007 01:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Optic Flare is always, no matter what, a waste of time and money. Simple as that.


Yea BoxeR got into pimpestplays by doing a complete waste of time and money move.


The ironic part of this comment is that BoxeR still lost that game.

I thought he won the game that he went science vessel, ghost, medic, drop ship -> EMP, blind observer, nuke?

Regardless, Optic Flare is great fun against people who suck at the game (ie: 3v3s, 4v4s, etc.).
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-21 00:10:13
November 21 2007 00:09 GMT
#42
Regardless, Optic Flare is great fun against people who suck at the game (ie: 3v3s, 4v4s, etc.).


Blinding stuff to nuke noob friends is fun as hell, after they get nuked their always trying to nuke you back, and when you let them you have made another SC:BW player who shall start visiting TL and get sucked into the vortex of Esports and competitive gaming.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-21 00:11:53
November 21 2007 00:11 GMT
#43
I once pushed my Toss opponent on luna with a surprise 2fact. He was forced to get up his ramp and he made some comment like ^^; after an intense micro battle that was prior to it.
Then, when he was ready to push out coz he had obs, i blinded him. he said "now thats just rude".
I used that time to double exp, but it wasnt enough as he was powering like crazy and rolled over me a few minutes later.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 21 2007 00:34 GMT
#44
On November 21 2007 07:20 omgbnetsux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2007 06:14 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
On November 21 2007 02:31 XCetron wrote:
On November 21 2007 01:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Optic Flare is always, no matter what, a waste of time and money. Simple as that.


Yea BoxeR got into pimpestplays by doing a complete waste of time and money move.


The ironic part of this comment is that BoxeR still lost that game.

I thought he won the game that he went science vessel, ghost, medic, drop ship -> EMP, blind observer, nuke?

Regardless, Optic Flare is great fun against people who suck at the game (ie: 3v3s, 4v4s, etc.).

Oh, i was referring to the carrier obs blind
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 21 2007 00:36 GMT
#45
On November 21 2007 09:11 niteReloaded wrote:
I once pushed my Toss opponent on luna with a surprise 2fact. He was forced to get up his ramp and he made some comment like ^^; after an intense micro battle that was prior to it.
Then, when he was ready to push out coz he had obs, i blinded him. he said "now thats just rude".
I used that time to double exp, but it wasnt enough as he was powering like crazy and rolled over me a few minutes later.


Shouldn't you have just expoed once, then powered yourself? I mean, expoing a bunch of times and getting attacked before your econ advantage kicks in isn't exactly indicative of your econ not being "enough".
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urine_nation
Profile Joined November 2007
United States64 Posts
November 21 2007 02:23 GMT
#46
that restoration idea seems so good...it would save quite a few vessels.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
November 21 2007 02:39 GMT
#47
If optical flares could blind buildings it would be freaking imba.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
November 21 2007 03:32 GMT
#48
What about optical flare on mines?

Your own mines, of course. It's basically an artificially created ally mine.

I'm worried that the medic timing will be too late against obs to matter, but perhaps in certain case situations it would be useful
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 21 2007 03:34 GMT
#49
On November 21 2007 04:06 naventus wrote:
Wow this almost seems practical - the blinding of expansion ramp lurkers. But certainly it would depend on where they are placed? If they are in the center of the ramp, you still won't be able to avoid them on the way up.


Haha that's a terrible idea, You blind lurkers and when you try to walk over them ARRRRGG STOP LURKAR!
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 21 2007 03:35 GMT
#50
Unless you want to walk carefully and not step on them? : )
Dunno, flaring zerg overlord is kinda bleh, there's nothing invislbe that terran has, ghost? we don't use them much, wraith? we can just kill the ovi.

Maybe team game you go flair+DT. Mmm!
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
November 21 2007 03:38 GMT
#51
On November 21 2007 06:14 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2007 02:31 XCetron wrote:
On November 21 2007 01:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Optic Flare is always, no matter what, a waste of time and money. Simple as that.


Yea BoxeR got into pimpestplays by doing a complete waste of time and money move.


The ironic part of this comment is that BoxeR still lost that game.
To be fair, TheFoReveRwaR said it was a waste of time and money 'no matter what.' Whether Boxer won or not isn't really related. Of course, Boxer only did that because he knew he was probably gonna lose anyway (or so I'd imagine). BTW, XCetron I was thinking the same exact thing haha.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 21 2007 04:13 GMT
#52
You must agree also that boxer was pretty fucked before doing that move. If boxer did it under more equal circumstances, it would have been totally cost effective.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
November 21 2007 11:51 GMT
#53
On November 21 2007 09:36 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2007 09:11 niteReloaded wrote:
I once pushed my Toss opponent on luna with a surprise 2fact. He was forced to get up his ramp and he made some comment like ^^; after an intense micro battle that was prior to it.
Then, when he was ready to push out coz he had obs, i blinded him. he said "now thats just rude".
I used that time to double exp, but it wasnt enough as he was powering like crazy and rolled over me a few minutes later.


Shouldn't you have just expoed once, then powered yourself? I mean, expoing a bunch of times and getting attacked before your econ advantage kicks in isn't exactly indicative of your econ not being "enough".

Yup ^^
It was the first time i decided to do that move, and i obviously didn think much so i miscalculated stuff. If i expoed normally and added facts, i'd probly have won the game.
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
November 21 2007 12:01 GMT
#54
On November 21 2007 12:35 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Unless you want to walk carefully and not step on them? : )
Dunno, flaring zerg overlord is kinda bleh, there's nothing invislbe that terran has, ghost? we don't use them much, wraith? we can just kill the ovi.

Maybe team game you go flair+DT. Mmm!

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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
November 21 2007 13:21 GMT
#55
On November 21 2007 12:35 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Maybe team game you go flair+DT. Mmm!
I might have been to much of a newb by then, but from my experience it's not practical on a 2on2 on LT, playing standard. At least not against zerg (not enough flares for the ovies he has/can get) and toss usually had cannons. So yes, i'm talking about the noob level were PT is not that bad of a team. Maybe for an island map...

Oh, and about the lurkers, still with flare you can get them to kill 1 marine (that attack, the only one they spot) on one side and attack with the rest from the other. With enough marines you should be able to kill one before it attacks again. It needs high precision but it's doable.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
November 21 2007 14:20 GMT
#56
i think the limiting factor is not the cost and time it takes to get but the human factor - takes a lot of attention and micro to pull off. just like a lot of other spells that aren't used - feedback/ensnare/mind control etc
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
November 21 2007 14:58 GMT
#57
i would say the only viable target for blind would be overlords positioned about the map

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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
November 22 2007 00:14 GMT
#58
Or you could just kill them with mnm--
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KTFKentatsu
Profile Joined November 2007
Philippines178 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-22 07:00:05
November 22 2007 06:53 GMT
#59
On November 21 2007 01:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Optic Flare is always, no matter what, a waste of time and money. Simple as that.


I read that for SC2, they're gonna make optical flare a fog-of-war revealing spell instead of a blinding spell. i hope it gets used more often.
I can still remember the smell of fried zerglings and hatcheries zapped by Nal_ra's Archons...
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
November 22 2007 08:46 GMT
#60
Wow, never thought of using flare against reaver/shuttle. That's freaking hilarious! I'll definitly try that against a pal of mine who ALWAYS tries to reaver-harrass. Of course, turret/tank is prolly more effective, but it's worth the look on his face :-)
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