• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:55
CEST 13:55
KST 20:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group B Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Toronto invitational lan 22 august
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5015 users

! [G] Forge FE wall-ins on popular maps. - Page 14

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 All
Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
November 05 2009 16:14 GMT
#261
dose anyone have some good ways to wall on fighting spirit I'm not really sure how to wall on that map...
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-05 18:36:51
November 05 2009 18:32 GMT
#262
Fighting Spirit 5oclock. Move forge over to left and you can fit another cannon in.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


2oclock.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

8oclock. Dont really like this one, but not sure what can be done.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

10oclock. This ones okay, but still a line right to ramp.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

| www.ArtofProtoss.vze.com |
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 15:43:45
November 09 2009 15:30 GMT
#263
I think this one for 8 is better:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Or like this (looks like there's a gap but there isn't, z may waste lings trying to click past)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


A narrower version of 10 (can move pylon/cannons around a bit)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
No I'm never serious.
stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
December 10 2009 02:49 GMT
#264
I gave Fighting Spirit a shot today. I try to put the pylons close to the nexus so you can build additional cannons if needed, but it does me no good to make the perfect wall if I can't remember how to do it, so I also put pylons in easy-to-remember spots. Sorry for lack of proper "probe placement."

1 oclock + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


4 oclock + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


8 oclock + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


10 oclock + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity" -maximus decimus meridius
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
December 10 2009 04:37 GMT
#265
for the 8 oclock at fighting spirit, why cant you have forge all the way on the left and gateway above that with cannons and pylon underneath?

thats what i've been doing (but i suck at PvZ, so w/e)
boomer hands
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
December 10 2009 06:58 GMT
#266
Since its MOTW I decided to try some on El Nino.

+ Show Spoiler [Top] +
[image loading]

The pro's I saw use a different wall that is more on a diagonal like this "\" from the nat gas to ramp, I don't know why this one isnt better though.

+ Show Spoiler [Right] +
[image loading]

I just copied this from Stork. I saw Jangbi or somebody do a different one but then Kwanro rolled him with a ling runby so....

+ Show Spoiler [left] +
[image loading]

Copied from Pure. I'm not crazy about it but couldnt figure out a better one.
TL's #1 Horang2 fan
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17078 Posts
December 10 2009 07:18 GMT
#267
On December 10 2009 11:49 stevethemacguy wrote:
I gave Fighting Spirit a shot today. I try to put the pylons close to the nexus so you can build additional cannons if needed, but it does me no good to make the perfect wall if I can't remember how to do it, so I also put pylons in easy-to-remember spots. Sorry for lack of proper "probe placement."

10 oclock + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Fairly certain lings can run right above that Gateway into the ramp
Moderator
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 12:32:27
December 30 2009 12:10 GMT
#268
well there have been no definite answers on wall-ins on fighting spirit so I'm bumping with wall-ins that have been used in A-team PvZs on fighting spirit

this is 1 oclock
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

source: anytime vs hoejja 2009-12-19



this is 7oclock
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

source: bisu vs hero 2009-11-28



this is 11 o clock
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

source: ZerO vs GosI[Flying] 2009-11-11



this is 5 oclock
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

source: EffOrt vs JangBi 2009-11-10
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 03:26:14
January 08 2010 03:23 GMT
#269
does anyone have some good walls for Match Point?

edit: i saw the ones posted in this thread but they seem to leave too much exposed.
When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
Majk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden146 Posts
January 27 2010 15:00 GMT
#270
Dunno if Neo Moon Glaive is up, but here's my try:

12 o clock
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


4 o clock
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


8 o clock
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Rock.zombie
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 16:52:12
June 16 2010 16:48 GMT
#271
Hey,
I search Wall-Ins for the latest MotW.
They're Tau Cross, Return of the King, Match Point 1.2, Heartbreake Ridge 2.1, Judgment Day 1.1

Maybe you just post a link to an older post, because I don't wanted to creat a new Thread.

Gratz,
Rock.zombie
I probably lie.
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
June 16 2010 20:24 GMT
#272
acutally on like god garden loki 2 1 gate expand to back is wayyy better
skyhighftw on iccup
haLs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States27 Posts
June 17 2010 09:49 GMT
#273
Thanks for this helpful FE wall-in guide. I had been having a little trouble with a secure wall, as I sometimes make deceiving road blocks that actually have tiny cracks in them, even though the building placement grids are all tight and secure.

bravo
Think for yourself--question authority.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 17 2010 11:04 GMT
#274
This is a great guide and used it many times, thanks, but shouldn't you do it directly on Liquipedia ?
ॐ
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 02:50:46
September 10 2010 02:45 GMT
#275
bump with my wall-in attempts for (most of) the new proleague maps so far, will probly update when these maps are in their final forms.

Aztec (Note: I couldn't find an efficient wall-in for the 12 o clock position, so it is left out):
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
5 o clock: 2 probes

[image loading]
9 o clock: 3 probes


Benzene:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
1 o clock: 3 probes

[image loading]
7 o clock: 3 probes


Bloody Ridge:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
1 o clock: 3 probes

[image loading]
7 o clock: 3 probes


Circuit Breakers:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
5 o clock: 4 probes

[image loading]
7 o clock: 4 probes

[image loading]
11 o clock: 3 probes

[image loading]
1 o clock: 3 probes


Empire of the Sun:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
11 o clock: 2 probes

[image loading]
1 o clock: 2 probes

[image loading]
5 o clock: 2 probes

[image loading]
7 o clock: 2 probes


Icarus:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
4 o clock: 2 probes

[image loading]
12 o clock: 3 probes

[image loading]
10 o clock: 3 probes

[image loading]
6 o clock: 2 probes


Middle Hill:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
12 o clock: 4 probes (note the zealot is placed where the 4th probe should be placed. For some reason, the zergling can't pass when it's placed there, but it can pass when the probe isnt placed there)

[image loading]
4 o clock: 4 probes

[image loading]
8 o clock: 4 probes


I didn't get the ones for Punchbowl Area, because there is a 2nd path that the zerglings can take to circumvent the wall completely
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
September 10 2010 07:28 GMT
#276
Note that the layout for python on position 12 is out of date with version 1.3 of the map - the ridge has been changed, and you cannot fit the forge as displayed.

Move the pylon up one matrix, and you'll make it work. This slightly impedes the ramp, though (goons still pass).
Wir haben zuwenig Vespingas!
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
May 06 2018 17:03 GMT
#277
Guys, any guides for the new ladder maps? many of them dont exist in the liquipedia article.
Prev 1 12 13 14 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Master Swan Open #106
CranKy Ducklings71
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft395
Rex 42
Trikslyr18
EmSc Tv 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39214
Calm 12368
Leta 5157
PianO 4699
Hyuk 1918
Shuttle 1584
firebathero 520
Pusan 481
Mini 330
Killer 64
[ Show more ]
Sexy 44
Barracks 34
Sharp 28
scan(afreeca) 25
zelot 25
Hm[arnc] 17
SilentControl 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Noble 13
910 11
Dota 2
The International110841
Gorgc8584
singsing3018
Dendi178
resolut1ontv 19
febbydoto7
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_236
nookyyy 129
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King147
Other Games
B2W.Neo762
Beastyqt370
Lowko196
ToD174
ArmadaUGS57
Organizations
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 143
Other Games
BasetradeTV39
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 22
EmSc Tv 18
EmSc2Tv 18
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH304
• 3DClanTV 5
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV220
League of Legends
• Jankos1651
• Stunt525
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
5m
Zoun vs Solar
SHIN vs Maru
Patches Events
4h 5m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 5m
PiG Sty Festival
1d
TBD vs Reynor
Serral vs TBD
OSC
1d 4h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 22h
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.