Very nice, cant wait to try these out, i also have a good block for the 3 o'clock position on Heartbreatk Ridge. Ill upload that later when i find teh replay.

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

July 21 2009 16:40 GMT

#230

On July 21 2009 17:06 scyper wrote:
I think someone needs to edit the first page..

this would be very helpful

Nytefish

United Kingdom4282 Posts

July 21 2009 16:59 GMT

#231

Or move everything useful here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Protoss_Fast_Expand_Forge_Walling

Muirhead

United States556 Posts

July 21 2009 18:20 GMT

#232

Yeah it would be REALLY useful if liquipedia included a complete list of walls on all maps somewhere, instead of just a few examples. Maybe on the pages for the maps themselves or something?

RoieTRS

United States2569 Posts

July 21 2009 20:47 GMT

#233

On July 22 2009 03:20 Muirhead wrote:
Yeah it would be REALLY useful if liquipedia included a complete list of walls on all maps somewhere, instead of just a few examples. Maybe on the pages for the maps themselves or something?

I thought each map article would have "how to do forge fe for protoss" images for each position.

I'm probably mistaken.

Flow.of.soul

United States210 Posts

July 22 2009 00:32 GMT

#234

Just search for a map on Liquipedia and on that page you should find the wall-in. Most if not all of the current maps have the fast expand layouts added to their respective pages.

LuDwig-

Italy1143 Posts

July 22 2009 12:02 GMT

#235

lot of these closure are simply or too weak or need too many probes..

Ftrunkz

Australia2474 Posts

July 30 2009 13:17 GMT

#236

I attempted lost temple (although the choked are huge, and effective walls are often really hard)

Red lines are where zerglings can pass, everywhere else is impassable.

I like the walls at 9 and 6 a lot better than the other two, with 9 being an actual decent wall-in. All buildings are covered by the 2 cannons also, (this includes the corners of the nexus, despite what it might look like. (obviously the mineral line is much more vulnerable). If you were to play FE at 3 or 12, blocking the gap and your ramp, is an absolute necessity. PS: the weird line going on at 6, is because the lings can get past the gateway gap, but surprisingly not past the forge ;o.

Comments/criticism welcome =]

Clasic

Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts

July 30 2009 23:55 GMT

#237

Here are ones that I got for holy world,

3

please excuse the scscrnshot thing im pretty baked.

these might not be the best but they work good!

o3.power91

Bahrain5288 Posts

August 11 2009 15:15 GMT

#238

I couldn't find any for Carthage and since it's motw this week I thought I'd make one myself and share it.

Carthage:
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [12 oclock] +

+ Show Spoiler [6 oclock] +

I'm not too fond of either of these walls but they were the best I came up with. If anyone has any better wall ins please share

windragon

United States4 Posts

August 11 2009 20:25 GMT

#239

the problem with many of the optimized cannon positioning for zergling rush is that its usually not good against front door hydras. the cannons are separate so picking off cannons with micro is that much easier. it forces one to make more cannons than necessary. i find its better to create cannons so that they are in a position to fend off hydras together. zergling rushes are usually blockable by proper micro as long as the cannons are in decent position blocking the entranceway to the main, and in range of gas or nexus harassment.

the only maps i would create cannons separately are on strange maps with large front door openings such as vampire or a map where ling cheese is very common like destination.

Tuke

Finland1666 Posts

August 11 2009 22:07 GMT

#240

Damn you! Because of you lings run-bys are harder to make if you tell everyone how to wall-in properly. T_T

On August 12 2009 05:25 windragon wrote:
the problem with many of the optimized cannon positioning for zergling rush is that its usually not good against front door hydras. the cannons are separate so picking off cannons with micro is that much easier. it forces one to make more cannons than necessary. i find its better to create cannons so that they are in a position to fend off hydras together. zergling rushes are usually blockable by proper micro as long as the cannons are in decent position blocking the entranceway to the main, and in range of gas or nexus harassment.

the only maps i would create cannons separately are on strange maps with large front door openings such as vampire or a map where ling cheese is very common like destination.

Shush, or even hydra breaks will be harder, don't let them know.