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sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
April 11 2007 00:34 GMT
#61
go for attack before armor. medics will take care of the marines.
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-StrifeX-
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States529 Posts
April 11 2007 01:35 GMT
#62
Most peopel do not go Armor because if the zerg stops the suken break or attempt they will go mutalisk or lurkers...Most people with armor aren't as effective if they have good micro. So, it's more of a safe thing i would think...But then again i sorta of suck =*( but yeah if going all in suken break armor is better.
Gabriel_reaper
Profile Joined December 2006
Czech Republic41 Posts
April 11 2007 01:59 GMT
#63
Thats easy
for less micro and M&M - armor
for more micro and M&M - attack (send medics first, surround medics with marines, so medics don't have to chase them)
for M&M&B - attack (send stimmed bats first)
Broken english FTW.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-11 06:10:08
April 11 2007 06:07 GMT
#64
On April 11 2007 05:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2007 15:37 CharlieMurphy wrote:
LET ME PAINT YOU A PICTURE:

A marine does 6 damage, so every 6 marines with +1 attack is like one free marine. math: 6=7

A sunken does 20 damage to small units.

A marine has 40hp, so every 2 marines with +1 armor a sunken kills you will have saved 1 marine. math: 2=3 or 6=9

BETTER TO GET ARMOR NUBE.



this formula quickly breaks down when lings and medics are thrown into the equation.



Op didn't say anything about lings. Medics are a given, but with them that makes your marines live even longer because all they need is 20 hp. A marine even double targeted by 2 sunkens with +1 armor and a medic healing him will take an extra hit or two.

My point is 12 rines and 3-4 medics can take 4 or so sunkens with +1 armor, with +1 attack they can't.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-11 06:44:24
April 11 2007 06:42 GMT
#65
I'd say lings are a given, the WILL have lings, you if your trying to break his sunk, he'll send them in.

ive been trying to find some of sataniks tvz all in rushs, but I havne't found any real good ones yet, also sync should have some good reps of sunk breaks I'd think^^
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
April 11 2007 06:57 GMT
#66
umm...
+1 weps better for everything
+1 armor is only good for facing 1 thing at 1 time. so lings+lurks or lings+sunks will surely beat +1 armor.

and if u think about it, +1 weps gives certain units like +2 or +4 dmg. that dmg > facing +1 armor. however in most cases, the ups just cancel each other out so.....
im deaf
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
April 11 2007 07:13 GMT
#67
On April 11 2007 15:57 imBLIND wrote:
umm...
+1 weps better for everything
+1 armor is only good for facing 1 thing at 1 time. so lings+lurks or lings+sunks will surely beat +1 armor.

and if u think about it, +1 weps gives certain units like +2 or +4 dmg. that dmg > facing +1 armor. however in most cases, the ups just cancel each other out so.....

we are talking about ebay upgrades for rines, +1 wep gives you +1 for rines
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-11 09:20:44
April 11 2007 09:20 GMT
#68
I also forgot to point out that +1 armor will give your SCVs armor and +1 weapons won't do anything for them. This can do 2 things, If you bring some SCV with you to break sunks they can meat shield and take extra hits and even kill shit faster. Or 2 later on if they lurker drop it wont take 3 hits to kill an scv but 4 (assuming he doesn't have spine upgrades).
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
1sd2sd3sd
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
660 Posts
April 11 2007 09:41 GMT
#69
someone interview sync real quick and ask him this question
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
April 11 2007 19:03 GMT
#70
yea, is there a How-to VOD by sync?
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
April 11 2007 23:34 GMT
#71
Wasn't Sync like.... the creator of the whole 3 rax +1 armor sunken break??
I'm probably wrong, so someone with a bit more knowledge please shed some light.

However, I always thought that for pure sunken breaking (like you come in with the mind-set, OK, I'm going to break his sunken wall and gg him) 3 rax, +1 armor was the way to go.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
April 11 2007 23:51 GMT
#72
yup, thats what i go..3rax +1 armor :D
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
April 12 2007 07:48 GMT
#73
You really need to start the upgrade early because if you just do 2 rax, then academy, the zerg will have lurkers first.
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