Reaver AI (Does it need to be fixed?) - Page 5

On September 08 2006 03:04 Sr18 wrote:
Patching this would make reavers less fun to use, less fun to face and most importantly less fun to watch pro-gamers use them. So, regardless of how significant this AI problem is, fixing it is a big NO in my book.

On September 08 2006 03:04 Sr18 wrote:
Patching this would make reavers less fun to use, less fun to face and most importantly less fun to watch pro-gamers use them. So, regardless of how significant this AI problem is, fixing it is a big NO in my book.

On September 05 2006 09:36 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I think there's one thing you could change about scarab detonation tho - at least when it duds, make it do damage where it duds (ie it explodes in mid air, right next to an scv, but not the targetted scv, as it is now it wont do any damage).

(However, then people could just spam stop and have the scarab explode wherever they want :D)

That's the only annoying thing, I don't mind people fooling the scarab AI with sexy micro or it not being able to reach an scv because the scv is running away and is blocked by others, but I do mind it when you fire a scarab from behind the minerals and it gets stuck at the edge, explodes close to other scvs, but does no damage.

On September 03 2006 18:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:




Ya, imagine a TvP tank drop where the tanks randomly do no damage at all. That'd be exciting too. Plus tanks are perfect TvP, why fix such bugs?

You're supposed to play vs reavers as if they have decent scarab AI, so it doesn't imbalance the game to make the AI actually non-retarded.

On September 08 2006 16:17 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Yes becouse if scarabs hit all the time reavers wouldn't be overpowered at all. Seriously though

1. A scarab that fucks up and explode and do no damage does not follow the same logic as a fucking shot from a tank..

The scarab is high tech and is sent out with an AI of it's own... FIND YOUR TARGET! but the scarab get's low battery and dies.. Nothing strange. Kind of like when a spidermine get's destroyed... You shouldn't mind the explosion looking the same

2. they should be able to fire at cannons and sunkens from every angle in the same way.

On September 04 2006 11:16 Scorpion wrote:
To the dude that said that making the Reaver smarter would result in an imbalance and then proceded to give an example of how a smater Scarab would result in the death of many probes/scvs in just two shots, making it imbalanced, I have some things to say:

I can do that now. So, would a dumb reaver be such an imbalance now because, even with the retarded reaver, I can still end up killing half/all of the Terran's scvs at his expo and main? I mean, there's plenty of counters for a giant ass worm that appears in your base, but if it's a giant retarded ass worm, then it's even better. The scarab would get stuck behind the mineral line and end up chasing the fleeing workers only to have the scarab explode between some factories, then some tanks can shoot at it. Oh, but it goes into the shuttle, you say? Then the shuttle goes into an array of missile turrets and dies. But the reaver was dropped before the shuttle exploded? No matter, it can't run, might as well just kill it with a few tanks.

I have a few suggestions at what might fix the AI, and these suggestions would not imbalance anything because we can do that with Reavers now. You can select a group of mutalisks with an overlord/larva/etc and have them stacked, should we fix that because the micro is so omg ownage? No, there's a counter for stacked mutas, making the zerg look like an idiot for stacking them. Well, it's the same thing with Smarter reavers.

1) If it has no scarabs, make it stop as to where it would have attacked if it did have a scarab. So, don't make it run up to something. Basically, make the reaver attack from its maximum range, not let it get up close.
2) Fix the memory problem. Have it stop and target its targeting and if you don't have any scarabs, still have the reaver fixed on that target.
3) The scarab should explode if it can't get to its target and still cause damage. So, if you've got an scv targeted, and let's say the scv went and built something, and you dropped the reaver and it targeted that particular scv and it got stuck on the minerals and exploded right where the scv's are mining and did NOTHING, then your drop has failed miserably since now he's probably running his scvs to his expansion. So, it should be able to damage things even when it has gotten stuck between supply depots, so at least something gets harmed.
4) I never knew about the reaver angle thing. I might have encountered it, but never really paid attention to it. Yes, fix this so annoying ass sunk/spore/lurk defensive positions can get seriously owned by the Protoss counter to that gayness: Reaver.