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whaski
Finland577 Posts
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Cryoc
Germany912 Posts
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
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Cryoc
Germany912 Posts
For 1 Base: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/104406_Leta_vs_Soulkey/vod For 2 Base: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/44966_Flash_vs_Jaedong/vod | ||
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
On February 16 2015 14:08 [[Starlight]] wrote: Thanks, Jello. I think this is like the third Q of mine you've answered, you seem really on top of this stuff. No problemo, I have spent an inordinate amount of time on this game in my life  | ||
GTR
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handsomeTom
Canada6 Posts
Any way I can catch up with the metagame changes since 2009? | ||
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1078 Posts
On February 19 2015 05:05 handsomeTom wrote: I wanna start playing again after a 6 years hiatus, can anyone point me to which server is played nowadays and various ressources to get back into it? Any way I can catch up with the metagame changes since 2009? Welcome back to the BW family Most foreigners play on ICCUP. The Koreans play on fish server but for beginners I guess ICCUp is a lot better, more sociable, lower levels etc.. http://iccup.com/en/dota/files.html as for metagame I dont think it has changed that much? I think FS was already around in 2009 I think, that is the map where we all play, and most maps have similar characteristics (e.g. relatively easy 3rd) I will try to think of how I played the game 6 years ago (PS: Im protoss user) TVT/PVP/ZVZ - basically very similar, I guess there is an increased in tendency to start mass wraiths once you have 3 bases up in TVT. But rest of the MU are similar really. The Hive tech ZVZ has become slightly more common, that said it is still very very rare. PVT: Terrans now like to take a fast 3rd expansion very quickly (off 1-3 facts). 2 bases 6 factory pushes aren't as common now. As a results protoss users also tend to expand earlier/more aggressively. PVZ: The standard build from Zerg would be to go 3 hatch lair (normally the 3rd hatch will be at another natural) then add spire then add 2 more hatcheries, with earlier scourges to counter the "Bisu" build. Sim city is also more advanced at this stage in that speedlots attacks aren't as effective vs zerg. TVZ: Basically zergs are still doing what savior would do... he really changed the MU. One thing that I can think of is terrans tend to do a mech switch after say 3 bases to counter the zerg lategame units. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
The only thing I do is zergling-> lurker -> muta - > ultra hydra | ||
Kau
Canada3502 Posts
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On February 20 2015 01:29 Kau wrote: 12 hatch -> 3 hatch muta for map control -> lurkers for third base -> hive and survive with dark swarm while taking more bases -> kill terran because of superior economy Was he consistently greedy/an early-double-expander vs T, or was that more overtly a Savior vs P thing? | ||
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GreenWillow
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fearthequeen
United States788 Posts
On February 24 2015 22:05 GreenWillow wrote: Have such huge maps as like 256x128 or even 256x256 ever been used in competitive starcraft? If no, then why? Competitive starcraft? That's a broad category, I can only assume you mean professional/considerable $ leagues. The reason to have maps that size is to accomodate more than 4 players. As far as I know, 5+ player maps have never been used. Probably because rush/push distances become too variable/prone to imbalance on 5+ spawn/larger maps. Not to mention you're going to have an unnecessary amount of bases for a 1v1 game if you want a normal density of bases on these larger maps. I'm thinking there's some good reason why map makers landed on 128x128 for standard map size. | ||
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DepressedOne
United States190 Posts
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On February 24 2015 22:05 GreenWillow wrote: Have such huge maps as like 256x128 or even 256x256 ever been used in competitive starcraft? If no, then why? IIRC in early seasons of the Blizzard Ladder they were, if that counts as 'competitive' Starcraft. Nowadays 1v1 is almost always on 128x128 or 96x128 maps, as you know. Design-wise, you can see why, though I guess 1v1'ing on a 256x256 map once in a blue moon would be an interesting change-of-pace. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
 . Also if they suicide too much army sometimes you can kill them when they free up supply for carriers. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
On February 25 2015 05:27 DepressedOne wrote: hey once you split the map in TvP as Terran what do you do to prepare for Carriers? Wraiths? Goliaths+Turret turtle? Perhaps a combination of the following? Well upgraded goliaths and an absolute ton of turrets, although they're basically just for delaying the carriers until your goliaths arrive wherever they're attacking. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11301 Posts
On February 19 2015 00:10 GTR wrote: Anyone know VODs of 4gate2archon and Neo Bisu Build to study off? Looked on Liquipedia but nothing there. Generally any Bisu PvZ VOD from 2011 because that's when he started using it but I'm just being lazy. | ||
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GreenWillow
50 Posts
What was the reason? Because someone is a moderator and can do whatever he wants, and that's it? | ||
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