EPTOn November 30 2013 04:07 skzlime wrote:
wasn't it this game?
but it doesn't seem to be in the video... at least i can't find it
wasn't it this game?
but it doesn't seem to be in the video... at least i can't find it
Thank you.
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Jealous
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makmeatt
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dr0pship
Canada520 Posts
anyone know how to achieve this? i know about unload while moving (press U and click dropship) but what about unloading all units at once, as described above? | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On December 07 2013 17:39 9heart wrote: "you can try downloading all troops simultaneously from dropships etc using the magic box thing, were you click unload right in the middle of the box and they unload while moving, very usefull in TvT" anyone know how to achieve this? i know about unload while moving (press U and click dropship) but what about unloading all units at once, as described above? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Magic_Boxes | ||
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Operations
115 Posts
On December 07 2013 17:39 9heart wrote: "you can try downloading all troops simultaneously from dropships etc using the magic box thing, were you click unload right in the middle of the box and they unload while moving, very usefull in TvT" anyone know how to achieve this? i know about unload while moving (press U and click dropship) but what about unloading all units at once, as described above? This is a foreign myth. In a pro TvT game the players will click 'u' on the dropships individually. watch some flash fpvod. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On December 07 2013 19:52 Operations wrote: This is a foreign myth. In a pro TvT game the players will click 'u' on the dropships individually. watch some flash fpvod. It is actually possible to do. Just because flash doesn't do it doesn't mean it isn't possible. | ||
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Operations
115 Posts
On December 07 2013 19:57 Birdie wrote: It is actually possible to do. Just because flash doesn't do it doesn't mean it isn't possible. Its not realistic to think one can click exactly at the center of gravity in the heat of the game. There is a reason why flash and hiya doesn't use this | ||
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:04 Operations wrote: Its not realistic to think one can click exactly at the center of gravity in the heat of the game. And yet it is realistic for players to click a reaver, tap R a few times, while moving their shuttle back and picking it up while throwing down storms and microing zlot goon archon? Pro gamers and even ordinary decent players are capable of doing quite a lot mechanically, either Flash and HiyA didn't know about it or they have another reason for not doing it beyond "I can't". | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
(obviously clicking on a dropship in the middle isnt as extreme as the other examples  )In the case of the reaver, i think its just reallocation of the apm its normally at a stage (something like pvt) where you dont have the huge macro gates and 4-5 control groups to move around. idk just playing devil's advocate  i wonder though like i could see it being used with some tvp fast drop ship vulture mine drop, where u want all the vultures out as soon as possible. (all that being said i have seen some tvt where the dropships seem to unload extremely fast, so maybe it is used) | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8829 Posts
On December 08 2013 07:46 Birdie wrote: And yet it is realistic for players to click a reaver, tap R a few times, while moving their shuttle back and picking it up while throwing down storms and microing zlot goon archon? Pro gamers and even ordinary decent players are capable of doing quite a lot mechanically, either Flash and HiyA didn't know about it or they have another reason for not doing it beyond "I can't". they dont do it not because its mechanically hard. finding the center is really hard when you have a group of dropships. if you misclick youll probably only drop from a couple of dropships and you will end up having to find the ones that didnt drop and manually drop them, which is worse than just doing it manually in the first place | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
On December 10 2013 01:50 Golgotha wrote: once toss has reavers, cannons, and storms in place, has anyone tried getting queens to take out the high temps? the reaver is still there but the reaver can then only cover so much of an area compared to the range of 2+high temps. or is there a better way to take out such bases? i am obviously dswarming with lurks and lings along with the queens. Queens in the later game aren't that uncommon. If you watch Killer then he loves to get queens in these kind of situations. He also uses parasites to better plan the engagements. Also, guardians work well too particularly if you opened with +1 cara and then proceeded to get +2 cara as game went on. | ||
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JMave
Singapore1806 Posts
On December 07 2013 19:52 Operations wrote: This is a foreign myth. In a pro TvT game the players will click 'u' on the dropships individually. watch some flash fpvod. this is correct. i have seen on multiple occasions where they unload them individually rather than using the magic box. sometimes when you have a huge clump of dropships or overlords, it becomes difficult to identify the center of the box. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6641 Posts
On December 10 2013 18:05 JMave wrote: this is correct. i have seen on multiple occasions where they unload them individually rather than using the magic box. sometimes when you have a huge clump of dropships or overlords, it becomes difficult to identify the center of the box. I wouldn't say it's a myth because it's possible to do it, it's just rare because it's so difficult. | ||
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JMave
Singapore1806 Posts
On December 11 2013 00:56 jello_biafra wrote: I wouldn't say it's a myth because it's possible to do it, it's just rare because it's so difficult. the myth is not about the magic box being possible but rather the scenarios of consistent and reliable mass dropping that pro-gamers have been doing over the years. having watched many fpvods, it is clear that they unload individually rather than "click[ing] unload right in the middle of the box and they unload while moving" that most people over the years have said. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On December 08 2013 07:46 Birdie wrote: And yet it is realistic for players to click a reaver, tap R a few times, while moving their shuttle back and picking it up while throwing down storms and microing zlot goon archon? Pro gamers and even ordinary decent players are capable of doing quite a lot mechanically, either Flash and HiyA didn't know about it or they have another reason for not doing it beyond "I can't". You can't because you have bad mechanics. On December 10 2013 01:50 Golgotha wrote: once toss has reavers, cannons, and storms in place, has anyone tried getting queens to take out the high temps? the reaver is still there but the reaver can then only cover so much of an area compared to the range of 2+high temps. or is there a better way to take out such bases? i am obviously dswarming with lurks and lings along with the queens. Queens have one particular special usage in ZvP which is when the map is split and starting to run out. If the map is running out of money, and you need to get kills, it will almost inevitably cause you to have to trade something with the Protoss, which is what you don't want. The broodling allows you to circumvent this, and also, you can use ensnare on carriers and corsairs, which will help you to catch them when they retreat. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On December 11 2013 19:08 ninazerg wrote: You can't because you have bad mechanics. Queens have one particular special usage in ZvP which is when the map is split and starting to run out. If the map is running out of money, and you need to get kills, it will almost inevitably cause you to have to trade something with the Protoss, which is what you don't want. The broodling allows you to circumvent this, and also, you can use ensnare on carriers and corsairs, which will help you to catch them when they retreat. One particular use? Oh really? | ||
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
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