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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 07:38:00
November 24 2013 07:37 GMT
#3401
to be VERY general, its good to have double his factory count in gateways until it gets late game when you can just have 20+ gateways. sometimes you can have less, depending on what hes doing, or you could want more if you want to bulldog him. tech varies a bit, considering the amount of paths protoss can take with tech. but the best rule is simply get it asap. you definitely want to have at least 1 arbiter (usually you will have 2) before he has a vessel and you want to have leg speed before he has +1 upgrades, but these things can still vary depending on the situation. for example if he 2facs/fd and manages to contain you, you want to get a shuttle (possibly reaver if you already started getting one), 3-4 gates depending on how much you made from your natural, and leg speed. leg speed in particular will come much earlier in these situations than if you had just played a normal macro game
also you want to have at least 1 more expo than him
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 13:48:18
November 24 2013 13:37 GMT
#3402
I am trying to find the thread that described finding ladder games on fish for foreigners. There is a certain protocol i've seen streamers follow when finding ranked games, and I wish to know more about this. Thank you.

edit:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398394

found it. im guessing the rules are still the same? sucks i have to be online for 24 hours...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 25 2013 02:46 GMT
#3403
On November 24 2013 16:08 traceurling wrote:
Generally as a rule of thumb, how should I, as Protoss, be matching against Terran in terms of Gates vs Factories and expos vs expos (and if there is a general rule of thumb for this) when should my tech being going down relative to his army/tech

I think you should really be 1 base up on terran at all times, if terran has equal econ terran units are just so much better than protoss when he pushes you'll basically die.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10413 Posts
November 25 2013 04:43 GMT
#3404
On November 25 2013 11:46 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 16:08 traceurling wrote:
Generally as a rule of thumb, how should I, as Protoss, be matching against Terran in terms of Gates vs Factories and expos vs expos (and if there is a general rule of thumb for this) when should my tech being going down relative to his army/tech

I think you should really be 1 base up on terran at all times, if terran has equal econ terran units are just so much better than protoss when he pushes you'll basically die.

You can do a 2 base arbiter build and still be okay against a 3 base Terran. Obviously you have to expand soon after, usually double expand. However, it is not at all times as you say. A lot of Bisu's PvTs from October demonstrate exactly this play.

I heard somewhere a long time ago that you want at least 1.5 gates for every factory you see. In the late game having 2-3x as many is not uncommon, however.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 25 2013 17:16 GMT
#3405
hey guys on twitch why is it that some streams there is an option to set quality to high medium and low but not for all streams? Some streams dont give me that option.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
November 25 2013 20:08 GMT
#3406
On November 26 2013 02:16 Golgotha wrote:
hey guys on twitch why is it that some streams there is an option to set quality to high medium and low but not for all streams? Some streams dont give me that option.

Partnered streams have quality settings, ordinary streams don't. It's to do with the expense of converting a stream into different formats before restreaming to the viewers.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 08:45:06
November 28 2013 08:43 GMT
#3407
Question about Broodwar Plugins

Sometimes when watching a replay, I can use the hotkeys of one player. e.g. double-tap 4 on keyboard will select By.FanTaSy's first CC.

I am not sure which plugin allows this (ObsMode? StatInfo?)

It only seems to work on certain replays. and I can only use the hotkeys of one player.

Anyone know how to make this work on all replays? Is there a way to change between players?

thx
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 28 2013 09:11 GMT
#3408
Question to all the broodwar streamers, do u stream with fullscreen? (and if anyone knows the answer to the same question but to the korean streamers?)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
November 28 2013 09:12 GMT
#3409
On November 28 2013 18:11 Shock710 wrote:
Question to all the broodwar streamers, do u stream with fullscreen? (and if anyone knows the answer to the same question but to the korean streamers?)

I stream windowed mode, most koreans stream windowed mode too.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
November 28 2013 09:13 GMT
#3410
i know most of the afreeca streamers stream full screen but use 2 monitors. one for chat and one for playing. otherwise they window bw
Capresis
Profile Joined September 2008
United States518 Posts
November 28 2013 10:06 GMT
#3411
On November 28 2013 17:43 9heart wrote:
Question about Broodwar Plugins

Sometimes when watching a replay, I can use the hotkeys of one player. e.g. double-tap 4 on keyboard will select By.FanTaSy's first CC.

I am not sure which plugin allows this (ObsMode? StatInfo?)

It only seems to work on certain replays. and I can only use the hotkeys of one player.

Anyone know how to make this work on all replays? Is there a way to change between players?

thx

From observation it seems you see the hotkeys of whoever spawns in the 'player 1' location on whatever map. On most versions of FS that would be whoever spawns at top right. On some obs maps you'd see an obs' hotkeys, meaning you wouldn't see any... I haven't heard of any plugins that can change this, but I haven't looked either.
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
November 28 2013 12:06 GMT
#3412
On November 28 2013 19:06 Capricis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 17:43 9heart wrote:
Question about Broodwar Plugins

Sometimes when watching a replay, I can use the hotkeys of one player. e.g. double-tap 4 on keyboard will select By.FanTaSy's first CC.

I am not sure which plugin allows this (ObsMode? StatInfo?)

It only seems to work on certain replays. and I can only use the hotkeys of one player.

Anyone know how to make this work on all replays? Is there a way to change between players?

thx

From observation it seems you see the hotkeys of whoever spawns in the 'player 1' location on whatever map. On most versions of FS that would be whoever spawns at top right. On some obs maps you'd see an obs' hotkeys, meaning you wouldn't see any... I haven't heard of any plugins that can change this, but I haven't looked either.


Thx

It appears HotKey Selector plugin is what I'm looking for. See here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=90265
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
November 28 2013 18:16 GMT
#3413
On November 28 2013 18:11 Shock710 wrote:
Question to all the broodwar streamers, do u stream with fullscreen? (and if anyone knows the answer to the same question but to the korean streamers?)

Somewhat related question, I find windowed mode extremely frustrating to play in because it's so small, but it's the only way I can play on my computer. When I use the x2 button to expand it it makes it really laggy...does anyone know how to get SC bigger? I use Ubuntu as my OS if that's relevant...
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa382 Posts
November 28 2013 20:01 GMT
#3414
On November 29 2013 03:16 traceurling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 18:11 Shock710 wrote:
Question to all the broodwar streamers, do u stream with fullscreen? (and if anyone knows the answer to the same question but to the korean streamers?)

Somewhat related question, I find windowed mode extremely frustrating to play in because it's so small, but it's the only way I can play on my computer. When I use the x2 button to expand it it makes it really laggy...does anyone know how to get SC bigger? I use Ubuntu as my OS if that's relevant...

What I do these days and what I guess a lot of (if not most) people do is to change the resolution to 600 x 800 while playing in windowed 1x. It's not perfect; the window is bigger and the mouse handling better than 2x in normal resolution, but I would prefer playing in fullscreen as well.
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 20:10:50
November 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#3415
On November 29 2013 03:16 traceurling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 18:11 Shock710 wrote:
Question to all the broodwar streamers, do u stream with fullscreen? (and if anyone knows the answer to the same question but to the korean streamers?)

Somewhat related question, I find windowed mode extremely frustrating to play in because it's so small, but it's the only way I can play on my computer. When I use the x2 button to expand it it makes it really laggy...does anyone know how to get SC bigger? I use Ubuntu as my OS if that's relevant...

You will probably have to change your screen resolution temporarily. I find even just using windowed mode at all does not have the right feel to it, but it might just be my low-power computer. //oh no points for me, the user above me just said this

I'm impressed you have SC running in Ubuntu. I was never able to make that happen and got miffed when the solution looked like 'install a windows partition to run simultaneously' ;p
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
November 28 2013 20:36 GMT
#3416
Holy crap thank you guys so much that's amazing <3 I could play fullscreen at school so I got used to that and playing in a screen like 6x smaller at home which is where I ladder and stuff was just horrible...Damn now I gotta get used to playing almost-fullscreen again it's so hard adjusting mouse control...it's annoying changing screen res but worth it <3
Also yeah I just use WINE (windows emulator) to get SC to run c:
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10413 Posts
November 29 2013 18:04 GMT
#3417
What is the oov vs fantasy game where oov does this?

[image loading]

I remember it is a TvZ, I think he was at 5 vs. 1, on a Desert tileset map, iirc.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 00:47:40
November 29 2013 19:07 GMT
#3418
wasn't it this game?

but it doesn't seem to be in the video... at least i can't find it
life is balanced, L2P
Deleted User 268575
Profile Joined June 2012
146 Posts
November 30 2013 02:33 GMT
#3419
It's @ 5:42.
http://twitch.tv/jemah
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 03:55:18
December 02 2013 02:56 GMT
#3420
How do we get Hegemon to stop spamming it's getting really annoying

Also how viable is 1 Gate Core v. Zerg?
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
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