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Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
June 29 2004 05:47 GMT
#21
Its the same thing with zvz, when you upgrade carapace for the first lvl, its better than +1 attack, but if you continue more, i think the attack would run over the defence.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 29 2004 05:55 GMT
#22
On June 29 2004 10:30 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2004 10:25 hasuwar wrote:

Not that he was talking about Flyer Carapace, but for the people who think going muta sucks, it doesn't. When they get that +1 attack, 24 mutas and some lings can tear ass on a terran. If they can get their +1 attack for mutas before you get your +1 attack for marines, you're going to have a hard time, especially if they bring scourge or know how to micro out an irridiated muta later in the game, if you even last that long


Any decent terran would have a shitload of mnm and vessel and own this =[

Save this strat as a party trick.


I am a decent terran, and it's happend to me. And a shitload of MnM doesn't always do the trick, I'm telling you.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 29 2004 06:09 GMT
#23
On June 29 2004 14:47 Dave307 wrote:
Its the same thing with zvz, when you upgrade carapace for the first lvl, its better than +1 attack, but if you continue more, i think the attack would run over the defence.


Somebody probably know this better than me, but as far as I've been told over the years, attack grades does not affect splash damage, so with armor muta bounce (9-3-1) goes down to (8-2-0) and etc.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 29 2004 06:20 GMT
#24
Ya I've been told that too yes.
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Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
June 29 2004 22:42 GMT
#25
On June 29 2004 01:56 Zerg0 wrote:
if 1 out of 50 terrans i played went mech i would rip off my clothes and run happily across my beloved state of virginia to bathe at a nearby christian well.

stop changing situations that rarely happen, in fact, i'll do it too

I RECOMMEND IT!!!
GO PURE MUTAS IF TERRAN MASSES SCV!!!!


AND YOU'RE STILL AN IDIOT ANYWAYS! OMGWTFBBQ
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 29 2004 22:50 GMT
#26
What's with the barbecue
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Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
June 29 2004 22:52 GMT
#27
Ever had barbeque'd pork man?
Great shit.
So good.
Delicious, really.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 30 2004 14:19 GMT
#28
On June 29 2004 15:09 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2004 14:47 Dave307 wrote:
Its the same thing with zvz, when you upgrade carapace for the first lvl, its better than +1 attack, but if you continue more, i think the attack would run over the defence.


Somebody probably know this better than me, but as far as I've been told over the years, attack grades does not affect splash damage, so with armor muta bounce (9-3-1) goes down to (8-2-0) and etc.


It does, but only by 1/3 and 1/9. E.g. mutalisk with +3 attack deals
12-4-1.5 . Either way, armour upgrades are a lot more effective in muta battles than attack ups.
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 30 2004 14:23 GMT
#29
muta bounce dont get full attack up? god that sux i never knwe that thanks bill D:
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 30 2004 15:38 GMT
#30
On June 30 2004 23:19 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2004 15:09 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On June 29 2004 14:47 Dave307 wrote:
Its the same thing with zvz, when you upgrade carapace for the first lvl, its better than +1 attack, but if you continue more, i think the attack would run over the defence.


Somebody probably know this better than me, but as far as I've been told over the years, attack grades does not affect splash damage, so with armor muta bounce (9-3-1) goes down to (8-2-0) and etc.


It does, but only by 1/3 and 1/9. E.g. mutalisk with +3 attack deals
12-4-1.5 . Either way, armour upgrades are a lot more effective in muta battles than attack ups.


Bill do you also know about the sairs? What kind of splash damage will they do when a few grades is in place?
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
June 30 2004 21:56 GMT
#31
On July 01 2004 00:38 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2004 23:19 Bill307 wrote:
On June 29 2004 15:09 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On June 29 2004 14:47 Dave307 wrote:
Its the same thing with zvz, when you upgrade carapace for the first lvl, its better than +1 attack, but if you continue more, i think the attack would run over the defence.


Somebody probably know this better than me, but as far as I've been told over the years, attack grades does not affect splash damage, so with armor muta bounce (9-3-1) goes down to (8-2-0) and etc.


It does, but only by 1/3 and 1/9. E.g. mutalisk with +3 attack deals
12-4-1.5 . Either way, armour upgrades are a lot more effective in muta battles than attack ups.


Bill do you also know about the sairs? What kind of splash damage will they do when a few grades is in place?


In Starcraft (BroodWar) there are three type of Splash Damage: Radial
Splash, Line Splash, and Air Splash. Any unit with splash damage has 3
value: S1, S2, and S3.
These values determine the 'far' of area that is affected by splash
damage from unit's weapon.
In Radial Splash, S1 means how far (in pixel) any unit will be dealt
with 100% damage from the weapon, while S2 and S3 show how far any unit
will be dealt with 50% and 25% damage.
Air Splash has same meaning with Radial Splash, but only work in air
units.
Line Splash is almost the same with Radial Splash, but it only affects
the area between the target unit and the attacker (In other words: "in
the line of fire").
Unit that has Radial Splash damage: Siege Tank (Siege Mode), Spider
Mine, Psi Storm, and Infested Terran.
Unit that has Line Splash damage: Firebat, Archon, Scarab, and Lurker.
Unit that has Air Splash damage: Corsair and Valkyrie.
Devourer has special Splash Damage, so it can't do damage to any nearby
target unit.
Nuclear Missile and Irradiate has special damage adjustment.
In table below, is the value of S1, S2, and S3.

Unit S1 S2 S3
-----------------------------------
Firebat 15 20 25
Siege Tank 10 25 40
Scarab 20 40 60
Spider Mine 50 75 100
Inf. Terran 20 40 60
Archon 3 15 30
Lurker 20 20 20
Corsair 5 50 100
Valkyrie 5 50 100
Psi Storm 48 48 48
Nuclear Miss. 128 192 256
Irradiate 64 64 64
God is dead - Nietzsche ; Nietzsche is dead - God
Zerg0
Profile Joined June 2004
149 Posts
June 30 2004 22:24 GMT
#32
OMG ITS THE OVERLORD!






oh wait nm, i thought ur name was overmind. my bad.
KillerPenguin
Profile Joined June 2004
United States516 Posts
June 30 2004 22:37 GMT
#33
thx for the info overlord
http://www.escapeintolife.com/
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-30 22:50:13
June 30 2004 22:49 GMT
#34
awesomeness.. this info was already on the web somewhere?
Typhoon
Profile Joined April 2004
196 Posts
July 01 2004 00:07 GMT
#35
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
July 01 2004 05:33 GMT
#36
great info overlord - but it really did not answer my question. If muta gets slightly updated splash, does this also holds true for valks and sairs?

From own experiences I'm tempted to guess yes.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Typhoon
Profile Joined April 2004
196 Posts
July 01 2004 07:34 GMT
#37
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
July 01 2004 07:53 GMT
#38
whats all this talk about muta splash? i thought they just bounced
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
July 01 2004 08:06 GMT
#39
On July 01 2004 14:33 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
great info overlord - but it really did not answer my question. If muta gets slightly updated splash, does this also holds true for valks and sairs?

From own experiences I'm tempted to guess yes.


As muta is not listed i suppose corsair attack gets the whole upgrade and then the aboce three regions apply to the new damage.
God is dead - Nietzsche ; Nietzsche is dead - God
Million
Profile Joined April 2004
United States559 Posts
July 05 2004 09:34 GMT
#40
I think it's used because you want to make ur Ultras/Ling damn near invincible...
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