EPTDoes this have any sort of advantage?
To me it seems +1 attack would be better as its cheaper and aids u in killing units more efficiently.
Zerg Carapace
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
Does this have any sort of advantage? To me it seems +1 attack would be better as its cheaper and aids u in killing units more efficiently. | ||
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Zerg0
149 Posts
I reckon it does help more than melee because your #1 goal for lings is to get 'em to the target, usually if your lings have reached their target, they cause dmg no matter what, getting 'em there is the problem without being shot up. Also, carapace helps with lurkers and hydras too, since they probably want to make sure their lurkers have a better chance when running up to the MM and tanks. I would go carapace first so my lings/hydra/lurk all get the upgrade, and then get melee. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Say lurkers for example: 2 shots unless terran has 3 armor when you have +1 1 or 2 shots less vs tank when you have +2 I think..? Anyway, just micro, so you don't need carapace ;D I think most zergs upgrade it because they like ultra and when they get to hive having 4 armor ultra's really fast is good Oo; | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
On June 28 2004 10:04 SoMuchBetter wrote: anyway, who cares, just double upgrade your shit and it all gets done =( Maybe on LT, but im thinking on something with a little less gas. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
Personally attack only helps in limited situations. True if a T gets armor then you rather need it as hydras do quite a bit less damage to marines and lurkers don't even kill them in 2 hits anymore. But if you have armor and a T gets armor or is slower on upgrading then you stand to benefit as they will be doing 20% less damage to your units. I personally think armor is the most useful of the three upgrades, but it really depends on what you are doing. If you are playing on low econ getting to 0/2 and using lings/few lurkers with defiler support and scourge backup for SV is probably your best bet. | ||
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Mydnyte
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Zerg0
149 Posts
After your first few harasses, a good terran will be totally immune to further muta harass, so then its time to start going lurk/hydra/ling or tech ultra/ling/defiler. No one I know upgrades air attack/defense because mutas are only used so u can expand urself and get a breath of fresh air. Why mutas are only temporarily is because good terrans, once stabilized, have enough turret, 1 bunk w/ 3 marines, and can irridiate the hell outta ur mutas. | ||
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Mydnyte
3306 Posts
But of course, if you don't macro it/micro it/use it properly you're fucked in every hole possible. | ||
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Zerg0
149 Posts
Also, can you send me that replay cuz I'm sure Boxer did something that made him lose. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
if terran goes mech, go pure mutalisk with upgraded carapace. | ||
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Mydnyte
3306 Posts
On June 28 2004 19:55 Zerg0 wrote: Yeah well Boxer can nuke rush and win, but I doubt few on this board would suggest that strategy. The safest route is just to use them temporarily as a containment mechanism where you can harass and expand without worries. Also, can you send me that replay cuz I'm sure Boxer did something that made him lose. Didn't say I had the replay, I did see it though. But when I quit, all replays = gone. And it was in 1.09 I believe. Long ass time ago. | ||
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Mydnyte
3306 Posts
On June 28 2004 19:59 SoMuchBetter wrote: i recommend it if terran goes mech, go pure mutalisk with upgraded carapace. This strategy is common sense, any other strategy against pure mech terran can be suicide. Mutas are the answer against mech, especially with armor upgs. | ||
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Zerg0
149 Posts
stop changing situations that rarely happen, in fact, i'll do it too I RECOMMEND IT!!! GO PURE MUTAS IF TERRAN MASSES SCV!!!! | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
Not that he was talking about Flyer Carapace, but for the people who think going muta sucks, it doesn't. When they get that +1 attack, 24 mutas and some lings can tear ass on a terran. If they can get their +1 attack for mutas before you get your +1 attack for marines, you're going to have a hard time, especially if they bring scourge or know how to micro out an irridiated muta later in the game, if you even last that long | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
On June 29 2004 10:25 hasuwar wrote: Not that he was talking about Flyer Carapace, but for the people who think going muta sucks, it doesn't. When they get that +1 attack, 24 mutas and some lings can tear ass on a terran. If they can get their +1 attack for mutas before you get your +1 attack for marines, you're going to have a hard time, especially if they bring scourge or know how to micro out an irridiated muta later in the game, if you even last that long Any decent terran would have a shitload of mnm and vessel and own this =[ Save this strat as a party trick. | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Anyway, back to carapace. I like to do that vs toss no matter what, to counter +1 attack. Many toss players time their expands just when they get +1 attack, or go for zling burners (+1 speedlots). If you cancel out this advantage you'll take the toss by surprise and often leave him clueless. | ||
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