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Thanks.
IM currently playing vs a friend who is C- and he is kicking my ass again and again. :\
right now my biggest problem is i tend to have 1-3 drone/scvs/probes afk and it starts to add up.
Then it gets to a point i have 2k minerals ;|
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
Thanks. IM currently playing vs a friend who is C- and he is kicking my ass again and again. :\ right now my biggest problem is i tend to have 1-3 drone/scvs/probes afk and it starts to add up. Then it gets to a point i have 2k minerals ;| | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
actually you sometimes don't even want to go above no upkeep depending on the situation. Like elf vs orc. They basically stay 50 all game, and orc has to go above 60 or they never will win. ;p You will see alot of good orcs sort of do quick hit and runs vs elf trying to hit wells to stall them below or at 50 while the orc army gets ahead. Even the 50 vs 70 fight sometimes goes bad for the orc. Frankly Orc is overpowered, however its a very unforgiving race, no mistake can be made early game or gg. And in SC... man not getting a single win vs my friend is frustrating me. but i guess thats gonna be the pattern for a while. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On March 10 2010 16:13 heaven- wrote: Very nice suggestions PH. Thanks. IM currently playing vs a friend who is C- and he is kicking my ass again and again. :\ right now my biggest problem is i tend to have 1-3 drone/scvs/probes afk and it starts to add up. Then it gets to a point i have 2k minerals ;| Learning to properly manage my macro was the biggest single jump in skill I've made. Focusing solely on it took me from D to D+ in a few days. And I've only gotten marginally better in the 2 years since then, lol. I blame taking long breaks of only watching proleague. xD You want to develop a cycle of worker production, unit production, and supply production. You really have to hardwire this into your brain through practise before it becomes natural to you. In the meantime, don't be afraid to que up workers, make several supply units at once, and an excess of production facilities. I really want to stress the last point, actually. Make significantly more factories/gateways/hatcheries than you see good players make when you get to mid/late game. Accept that you will slip up on your macro here and there and take advantage of the buffer this can give you. It is so, so much better to have too many and have wasted 300 minerals or so (although this is rarely ever the case) than to have 2000 minerals stack up and have a handicapped army. Eventually your builds will become more refined, but begin with airing on the side of too much production infrastructure. | ||
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
With no yet any game that was "close" | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On March 10 2010 16:45 heaven- wrote: yeah high upkeep you dont want to get unless you have a serious econ advantage. actually you sometimes don't even want to go above no upkeep depending on the situation. Like elf vs orc. They basically stay 50 all game, and orc has to go above 60 or they never will win. ;p You will see alot of good orcs sort of do quick hit and runs vs elf trying to hit wells to stall them below or at 50 while the orc army gets ahead. Even the 50 vs 70 fight sometimes goes bad for the orc. Frankly Orc is overpowered, however its a very unforgiving race, no mistake can be made early game or gg. And in SC... man not getting a single win vs my friend is frustrating me. but i guess thats gonna be the pattern for a while. don't play too good players all the time or you might lose the will to play, and you'd be missin' out on a great game. Make sure you treat yourself with a win now and then, even if its againt a D- player, just to be reminded that you did actually learn something. | ||
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bluegoo
United States141 Posts
On March 10 2010 17:04 heaven- wrote: Today I went 0 and 12. With no yet any game that was "close" better than my first day T_T | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
?? how could it be better, you went 0-13 ? | ||
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aznhockeyboy16
United States558 Posts
although I did start out 0-49... | ||
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bluegoo
United States141 Posts
i went 2-25 on iccup my first day, which IMO is worse. | ||
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BlissX1
United States328 Posts
Learn From your Mistakes. PEACE! | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On March 10 2010 19:46 aznhockeyboy16 wrote: D+ is 6 months is completely reasonable... I did it, and starcraft is my first rts... although I did start out 0-49... I admire your endurance!! Congrat on Ds though') | ||
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LuDwig-
Italy1143 Posts
and no i am not trolling | ||
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
So by the time sc2 comes out, I'd say 8 months. And i Have saved enough money to build a new powerhouse computer (about 1 year). I would be a sc1 B+ Baby. :D | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
I think your approach is good and I don't think I can add much more in terms of advice, so instead I'll add you on msn and connect you to some people who shouldn't be too much ahead of your level, because I find getting practice partners at your own level is much better than iccup massgaming against randoms(random skill levels too) Gl with your goal! | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On March 11 2010 01:25 heaven- wrote: sc2 wont come out till like the end of the year. And my computer cannot handle sc2 (its old) So by the time sc2 comes out, I'd say 8 months. And i Have saved enough money to build a new powerhouse computer (about 1 year). I would be a sc1 B+ Baby. :D It's nice to have high expectations, but I don't think you understand how good B+ players are. Stay reasonable and you won't get discouraged and quit. Try and get C in my opinion. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17390 Posts
On March 09 2010 17:32 heaven- wrote: 1. The depth of the game it self, even with the tiny bit of knowledge I have gotten from this game i can say that this game is easily 10x more complex and deep than wc3. You sir, don't know what are you talking about. And jumping to conclusions after aquiring a "tiny bit of knowledge" is a very bad thing. | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
Find a good clan to join as they usually will not hesitate in helping you improve. They also give you a steady source of people to play against. Sounds like mechanics is your major problem, drones // minerals etc. Majority of my hotkeys are on buildings rather then units, that way i can keep building while controlling my army. | ||
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Puosu
6988 Posts
On March 10 2010 23:26 LuDwig- wrote: i think that with sc2 coming this is the worst time ever to start playing bw. in my opinion you should simply wait until sc2 finish the beta and start playing that game..i don't see the sense to put much effort to become a good sc player now and no i am not trolling I'd say that if he was looking to become a progamer or make any profit but if he just wants to get good and have fun there is no wrong in choosing SC1 over SC2, its not like the game is going to completely disappear after SC2 is released. Hell even War2 still has a small scene around it and that game never reached what SC1 did. | ||
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
So much deeper than wc3. So fun. Either way sc2 wont be happening in a long time despite the early beta.... and even if it came out early im not in the economic situation to buy a new computer. | ||
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