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dongfeng
731 Posts
the rines tank while vults plant is what allows the scvs to build walls and shit and the tanks siege....do u think this will see a significant shift in the metagame and make a shift by toss to reaver (negating the rines and thus less time for vults to mine and terran to get a good position)? discuss. edit: basically fd build into 2nd fac the game was just played, flash vs jangbi @ KHAN vs KT, 23/2/10 | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
I recently made a thread about this and got alot of good advice. I think its one of the reasons flash has started doing FD alot more, and is why I switched to FDs from Siege Expos. | ||
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dongfeng
731 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On February 23 2010 18:41 Ftrunkz wrote: fac cc fac? Is that what you're talking about? You give so little information other than the fact that flash has done it atleast once... Either way your post is aweful -_- | ||
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CakeOrI)eath
United States327 Posts
A recent version of it from Winner's League. One of my favorite games of the past few months too. + Show Spoiler + Bisu goes for a 1gate range + obs -> expo. In the interview, Flash said he saw Bisu's obs at his nat. So he do not need build more turrets to defend from reavers or DTs. Instead he lands his Rax and builds more rines (already had 8 from FD). He moves out when his 4th tank pops with 10+ rines and rallies vults with mines. Siege finishes right when he reaches Bisu's choke. Some gosu turret placement and gg. Truely a thing of beauty. Only really viable when you can rule out reavers, but I'm totally gonna try this on my friends! | ||
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MonkeyMania
United States3 Posts
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Piste
6165 Posts
On February 23 2010 18:55 Catch]22 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112185 I recently made a thread about this and got alot of good advice. I think its one of the reasons flash has started doing FD alot more, and is why I switched to FDs from Siege Expos. I haven't watched the game yet. Could this be done with siege expo? how does the timing differ? | ||
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
On February 24 2010 04:53 Piste wrote: I haven't watched the game yet. Could this be done with siege expo? how does the timing differ? You can do it with a siege expand aswell, but if you FD before, you'll have alot more marines. | ||
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ExSoldier
378 Posts
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Piste
6165 Posts
On February 24 2010 05:09 Catch]22 wrote: You can do it with a siege expand aswell, but if you FD before, you'll have alot more marines. oh right stupid me. i forgot the rines =) | ||
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nebffa
Australia776 Posts
flash states that this is his new playing style vs protoss that he has talked about in past interviews | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On February 24 2010 08:35 nebffa wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113506 flash states that this is his new playing style vs protoss that he has talked about in past interviews I don't even play sc but I want to know his "new management" style. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On February 24 2010 05:29 ExSoldier wrote: this strategy isnt all that special... you have to be good as flash to pull this off and map has to be in your favor... watch light vs snow... snow stopped it without breaking a sweat. I don't think it has too much to do with map balance - its a pretty viable build order on most non-huge-maps. However, its heavily based on precise timing and abusing greedy builds vs. protoss. Yes, it isn't all that special, but it makes toss players think twice before doing a greedy build vs. Flash - and I'm sure that's Flash's goal. With his macro/intuitive brilliance, he should be able to decimate Toss players with the edge he gains over toss players with this build. | ||
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POWEROUTAGE
Singapore884 Posts
On February 24 2010 05:29 ExSoldier wrote: this strategy isnt all that special... you have to be good as flash to pull this off and map has to be in your favor... watch light vs snow... snow stopped it without breaking a sweat. I actually agree with ExSoldier. I don't believe it is different from any other timing push, but it's flash doing it which makes it so good. And yes, flash's secret management style mush be figured out, which is impossible unless replays are available... | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
Imo, if you're going to expand, expand. Don't push out until the Protoss is taking his third. Doing a push like that is flogging a dead horse at this level because your units can get sniped so easily. | ||
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OMin
United States545 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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okum
France5777 Posts
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