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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
January 27 2010 04:31 GMT
#21
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9799 Posts
January 27 2010 04:57 GMT
#22
On January 27 2010 13:20 love1another wrote:
While looking at the BWAPI videos, there's a way for mutas to shoot backwards with little to no deceleration. Can this be done?


it can be done. if you're an ai. or a hacker.

there simply isn't any way for people to micro like that. we can get close, but thats it.
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NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
January 27 2010 06:07 GMT
#23
The more you know!
No.Doubt
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada202 Posts
January 27 2010 06:19 GMT
#24
Are Hatchery hotkeys better to have at like 8-0 because of the hand position on P?
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
January 27 2010 06:21 GMT
#25
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
January 27 2010 06:38 GMT
#26
One day you guys will merge and meld into a new supreme being called Retosis, which will be made of pure awesome.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 27 2010 06:48 GMT
#27
On January 27 2010 15:19 No.Doubt wrote:
Are Hatchery hotkeys better to have at like 8-0 because of the hand position on P?


You also need to build stuff... I dunno about you but I find 0sm or 0sd to be pretty hard.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
January 27 2010 06:53 GMT
#28
On January 27 2010 13:20 love1another wrote:
While looking at the BWAPI videos, there's a way for mutas to shoot backwards with little to no deceleration. Can this be done?


Yes, but you have to actually click on the scourge.Jaedong does it in this video at 8 minutes in, it's 1 muta vs 1 scourge.



Needless to say it's extremely hard.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 27 2010 07:04 GMT
#29
On January 27 2010 15:48 QuakerOats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 15:19 No.Doubt wrote:
Are Hatchery hotkeys better to have at like 8-0 because of the hand position on P?


You also need to build stuff... I dunno about you but I find 0sm or 0sd to be pretty hard.


2 theories/setups on this if you're looking for advice:

0sd9sd8sd - it uses 2 hands, but it allows for you to 1a2a3a with hydra/lings
1sd2sd3sd - lets you patrol with muta and build with 1 hand, can't 1a2a3a.
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 07:26:53
January 27 2010 07:26 GMT
#30
Your site is still throwing warnings.
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
January 27 2010 07:37 GMT
#31
stop using google chrome people. it hates korean video servers.
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Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
January 27 2010 07:41 GMT
#32
On January 27 2010 16:26 yenta wrote:
Your site is still throwing warnings.
Show nested quote +
Google wrote:
The website at www.scforall.com contains elements from the site vodh1.afreeca.com, which appears to host malware – software that can hurt your computer or otherwise operate without your consent. Just visiting a site that contains malware can infect your computer.


And youre still using google chrome right? He said that the problem is between korean video sites and google chrome. Nothing he can do about it so I suggest you change browser when watching his vids.
4649!!
gorchiza
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Bulgaria200 Posts
January 27 2010 07:47 GMT
#33
I have a problem guys , my scourges don't come back , when i kill them once there are no more. I am using UMS , but don't know what to do to get it work. Any advice how to activate the map ?
http://www.youtube.com/user/GORCHIZA?feature=mhee
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 27 2010 07:48 GMT
#34
So I just got 37 scourge with my first 6 mutas. ret says if you get over 30 you're good... why am I C-
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
January 27 2010 07:51 GMT
#35
On January 27 2010 15:53 Wonders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 13:20 love1another wrote:
While looking at the BWAPI videos, there's a way for mutas to shoot backwards with little to no deceleration. Can this be done?


Yes, but you have to actually click on the scourge.Jaedong does it in this video at 8 minutes in, it's 1 muta vs 1 scourge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3psd9FP7ks

Needless to say it's extremely hard.

I think you guys are speaking of the "chinese triangle". Not that hard to learn but it's not as useful as the "regular" patrol trick because the scourge pretty much need to be alone, or in a very stacked group, for it to work.

If youre interested:

4649!!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 27 2010 07:59 GMT
#36
omg just tried it abillion times i just get raped liek a bitch by the scourge -_________-

o wel thanks ret anyway
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
January 27 2010 08:03 GMT
#37
Robinsa:
No, actually look at what Jaedong does in that game then look at the Chinese triangle. His muta literally shoots like a vulture would if it could attack scourge. The Chinese triangle is much easier to do but the muta "circles around" and faces the wrong direction for a relatively long time, so it's just not going to work if the scourge is close.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
January 27 2010 08:16 GMT
#38
thx ret and nice duds
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barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
January 27 2010 08:17 GMT
#39
Great Thank you.
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 08:20:43
January 27 2010 08:18 GMT
#40
Thanks ret and Artosis. Very nice little tutorial.

EDIT: Stuck it on liquipedia.
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