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HELL YEAH - I've done it with Hallucinated Carriers in a big 2v2 ash tileset map - can't remember the name right now, damn - one with long walk distances but short air distance that was popular maybe 3-4 years ago.
4 real carriers, 8 hallucinations, sent them in against a T who had no anti-air and typed GG (I know, bad manner, but it was just a huge bluff), guy said GG and quit, I felt like a champion.
I wonder if that dude ever watched the replay of that game... hahaha...
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On September 12 2009 09:15 Crisis_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2009 08:36 Zoler wrote:On September 12 2009 08:31 Entertaining wrote: I used it on my observers to break a lurker contain once... thats about it. thats pretty sexy ^^ Wow, that IS pretty sexy. never thought about that Sexy but also really bad
Much better to simply storm the hydras....such a waste of money to get hallcination at that point in the game. Not to mention the waste of energy. 2 extra obs arent even very hard to snipe
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Hallucinated carriers don't have interceptors, so when they attack it will only show the interceptors of one carrier. Hallucinating zealots for zealot bombs and for taking dmg vs a T might be viable but you gotta think what you could've done with the storms.
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This is viable in situations but the reason hallucination isnt used is because storm is more useful by ALOT.
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Hallucinated my allies battlecruisers and we attacked together... so that's saying, I mind controlled another race AND massed up, gg
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On September 12 2009 08:46 xhuwin wrote: I don't know of any games where hallucination was used for a deceptive purpose. But having a couple thousand HP worth of tanking units is pretty useful in PvT. Question is whether storm would be better suited. I imagine there exist timing windows where a mass hallucination zeal goon break against a terran would work.
Hallucinations take extra damage from everything. They just melt away to mines and don't really tank much imo
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On September 12 2009 09:00 Pokebunny wrote: Yeah, most players will fight the mass of units and then give up.
this it the way it should be. why would anyone give up when they still have an army?
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I think some progamer (whose name i keep forgetting) did that once vs some terran player he hallucinated arbiters so it looked like he had 8-10 when he really had 2 and split them into 2 groups (the fake ones going north end of terran base, real ones going a little to the south) the terran player overreacted and sent his whole force over to the group with fake arbs and left the 2 real arbs free to recall. so pvt hallucinate arbs= good
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On September 12 2009 08:31 Entertaining wrote: I used it on my observers to break a lurker contain once... thats about it. wow thats fucking genius what about bisu using this on shuttles? it would be hard for someone to snipe a shuttle with scourgee, or even hydras.. ya? or on corsairs? hallunication costing 100psi is redic though
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Check it: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/9657/vod
^^^ Jangbi vs. Flash
Flash gg's like literally 2 secs after he see's the carriers... and Jangbi only had 4...
Even if those had been hallucinations he would have won so I'm sure it's been done before even at the pro level. I mean those carriers didn't even kill anything...
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I've gotten in situations where templar and archons were the only units available in PvP. It's extremely fun hallucinating dark templar and watching your opponent say "wtf?"
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what about in PvP, when you have like goon/templar battles, you have a huge war and both players end up with like 2 dragoons left, but you have 3 temps with lots of health coming fast in the rally.. if you have 2 dragoons at his choke and mass hallucination and attack his expo, and he only has 2-3 dragoons, he may GG there.. Im sure its very possible, I think if I saw my expo was being hit by like 10+ dragoons and I only had 2, I would gg
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On September 12 2009 11:44 DivGradCurl wrote:Check it: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/9657/vod^^^ Jangbi vs. Flash Flash gg's like literally 2 secs after he see's the carriers... and Jangbi only had 4... Even if those had been hallucinations he would have won  so I'm sure it's been done before even at the pro level. I mean those carriers didn't even kill anything...
He didn't gg at the carriers. He gg'd at his entire army getting raped by storm.
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On September 12 2009 11:44 DivGradCurl wrote:Check it: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/9657/vod^^^ Jangbi vs. Flash Flash gg's like literally 2 secs after he see's the carriers... and Jangbi only had 4... Even if those had been hallucinations he would have won  so I'm sure it's been done before even at the pro level. I mean those carriers didn't even kill anything... He would have died to the one that's needed to make the carriers
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hahaha long time ago (4 years?) I did PvZ where I hallucinated about 2 ctrl groups of archon, zerg just GGed right when he saw them lol, didn't even bother checking
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On September 12 2009 09:22 Polyphasic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2009 08:36 Zoler wrote:On September 12 2009 08:31 Entertaining wrote: I used it on my observers to break a lurker contain once... thats about it. thats pretty sexy ^^ ya, that's pretty sexy.
On September 12 2009 10:55 Mobius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2009 08:31 Entertaining wrote: I used it on my observers to break a lurker contain once... thats about it. wow thats fucking genius
Not really. Hallucinated observers and dark templar don't cloak. It should have been utterly obvious to the opponent that there were hallucinated observers, because there is no other way to see them uncloaked.
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On September 12 2009 13:02 Kyadytim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2009 09:22 Polyphasic wrote:On September 12 2009 08:36 Zoler wrote:On September 12 2009 08:31 Entertaining wrote: I used it on my observers to break a lurker contain once... thats about it. thats pretty sexy ^^ ya, that's pretty sexy. Show nested quote +On September 12 2009 10:55 Mobius wrote:On September 12 2009 08:31 Entertaining wrote: I used it on my observers to break a lurker contain once... thats about it. wow thats fucking genius Not really. Hallucinated observers and dark templar don't cloak. It should have been utterly obvious to the opponent that there were hallucinated observers, because there is no other way to see them uncloaked.
I'm assuming that they would probably have overlords and scourge/hydra to support the lurkers anyway, since there would be no other reason to hallucinate the observer in the first place if you can just make it sit there while your other units kill the lurkers, in which case, it doesn't even matter whether they can see them or not. >___>
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On September 12 2009 09:22 Polyphasic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2009 08:36 Zoler wrote:On September 12 2009 08:31 Entertaining wrote: I used it on my observers to break a lurker contain once... thats about it. thats pretty sexy ^^ ya, that's pretty sexy. Indeed very sex.
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If hallucination cost 50 psi it would be such an awesome ability and it would be used in pro games.
too bad...what could have been...
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yeah why in god's name does hallucinate cost more than irradiate? Can anyone figure that one out?
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