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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 12 2009 14:59 GMT
#41
Yes, why shouldn't they do it here?
Jaedong
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
August 12 2009 15:05 GMT
#42
I didn´t understand half of that stuff, but I just wish SKT T1 sells Midas,Canata and Bisu and gets Savior, NalRa and Calm just for the lulz.

That would be so win.
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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-12 15:08:13
August 12 2009 15:07 GMT
#43
On August 13 2009 00:05 Mah Buckit! wrote:
I didn´t understand half of that stuff, but I just wish SKT T1 sells Midas,Canata and Bisu and gets Savior, NalRa and Calm just for the lulz.

That would be so win.


You, sir, are dead to me.

+ Show Spoiler +
Even if I want Nal_rA and Calm in T1 colors
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 12 2009 15:08 GMT
#44
On August 12 2009 23:59 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Yes, why shouldn't they do it here?

Let me reverse the question: why should they?

Players usually want to go to a team that is better for them, more often than not this will not be a team that is ranked low.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 12 2009 15:14 GMT
#45
That's how they do drafts, why not here?
Jaedong
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 12 2009 15:22 GMT
#46
On August 12 2009 17:41 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2009 17:29 konadora wrote:
*REPAYMENT RULES*
Teams that wish to acquire free agents must A) Repay 200% of the the progamer's annual salary to their original team, or B) Repay 100% of the progamer's annual salary to the original team, and give one player to the original team (excluding six players on their protected players list). Progamers who earn less than 50,000,000 Won a year are excluded from the repayment rule.


Basically a scheme to squeeze out more money.

Damn KeSPA.


Actually it is a way for poor teams to at least get compensation if the big 4 decide to throw around big dollars.


Just curious, who are the big 4? SKT, KT, Samsung, and Hwaseung?
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 12 2009 15:26 GMT
#47
If somehow Free and UpMaGiC moved to hwaseung it would be the best day Ever
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-12 15:34:06
August 12 2009 15:32 GMT
#48
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-12 15:41:23
August 12 2009 15:36 GMT
#49
New FA Article
Sauce

I had this posted up earlier, but I had trouble translating it
I really had no idea how to put this in better words in english
So any translator who stops by here wanna correct me please do...

But this is basically what the headlines say

"The main issue is regarding players with salaries less than 50 grand."

So remember this rule?
A) Repay 200% of the the progamer's annual salary to their original team, or B) Repay 100% of the progamer's annual salary to the original team, and give one player to the original team (excluding six players on their protected players list). Progamers who earn less than 50,000,000 Won a year are excluded from the repayment rule.


Well the article basically talks about how many players do have a salary lower than 50 grand (ie, Baby has a $6000 salary lolol).

And how players who should be getting paid more than they should could be getting financially abused by their sponsor.



I would post Korean Netizens comments here, but right now they're arguing whether working in a cubicle for 20 grand is better than being a progamer for 50grand
dats racist
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
August 12 2009 15:39 GMT
#50
On August 13 2009 00:32 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all



This is true. Drafts work the way they do because teams will have the chance to raise new talent. It doesn't work with allready established stars. I mean who wants to see Bisu in Estro and Jaedong in MBC?
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-12 20:25:20
August 12 2009 20:21 GMT
#51
First of all, why is Nal_rA in there? Is he not retired? Yea he is still in the "team" but he doesnt play, nor does he advertise for them or anything... He announced his retirement too... And oov is also retired right?

So this is how I understand it.
Lets just say I am SKT1, and I want to have FireFist in my team. I would have to pay KT Fingerboom twice FireFist's salary OR his salary + give away one of my players (like thezerg) to get FireFist. Is this a good example, or am I wrong. Either way it is kinda confusing...
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 12 2009 20:32 GMT
#52
On August 13 2009 00:39 StarBrift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 00:32 Carnac wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all



This is true. Drafts work the way they do because teams will have the chance to raise new talent. It doesn't work with allready established stars. I mean who wants to see Bisu in Estro and Jaedong in MBC?

Won't this just widen the gap between the top six and the bottom six? Just because a team like eSTRO gets to choose first, doesn't mean they'll get their pick.
Jaedong
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
August 12 2009 20:32 GMT
#53
This is pretty dumb way of doing things... Progamers should try to stand up for themselves or something, because it's quite ridiculous. Yeah I do understand that they're 15-2x years old so they get abused, but comeon...
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VictorW
Profile Joined May 2009
United States157 Posts
August 12 2009 20:39 GMT
#54
Wow this makes it real hard to poach expensive players. You basically have to be willing to shell out more than 3 times the money the original team is offering.
Process is more important than the result
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-12 20:49:45
August 12 2009 20:49 GMT
#55
On August 13 2009 05:32 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 00:39 StarBrift wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:32 Carnac wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all



This is true. Drafts work the way they do because teams will have the chance to raise new talent. It doesn't work with allready established stars. I mean who wants to see Bisu in Estro and Jaedong in MBC?

Won't this just widen the gap between the top six and the bottom six? Just because a team like eSTRO gets to choose first, doesn't mean they'll get their pick.


Um well if you pick first at draft you will get whatever player you want/choose, period. Top teams will get less good players that point (might be better few years later though).

Anyways Wemade Fox has first pick then eSTRO.
VictorW
Profile Joined May 2009
United States157 Posts
August 12 2009 20:58 GMT
#56
On August 13 2009 05:32 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 00:39 StarBrift wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:32 Carnac wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all



This is true. Drafts work the way they do because teams will have the chance to raise new talent. It doesn't work with allready established stars. I mean who wants to see Bisu in Estro and Jaedong in MBC?

Won't this just widen the gap between the top six and the bottom six? Just because a team like eSTRO gets to choose first, doesn't mean they'll get their pick.


Are you saying you want to turn the free agent period into a redraft of all the free agents? Well, it wouldn't be free agency anymore then. The whole reason free agency started in sports like baseball and basketball was because the players could get screwed by their employer. Free agency leads to higher salaries for the players.

If your goal is to balance the rich and poor teams, then you can try things like a salary cap and/or revenue sharing which would screw the players over less than essentially eliminating free agency.
Process is more important than the result
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 12 2009 21:16 GMT
#57
On August 12 2009 10:43 Cyberspace1 wrote:
Wait..so if a team wants a player they have to pay the other team DOUBLE what they were paying said player, on top of his new salary? Seems kinda odd...


Yeah that is weird and it seems like that would discourage teams and players from wanting to be traded.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 12 2009 21:20 GMT
#58
On August 13 2009 00:39 StarBrift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 00:32 Carnac wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all



This is true. Drafts work the way they do because teams will have the chance to raise new talent. It doesn't work with allready established stars. I mean who wants to see Bisu in Estro and Jaedong in MBC?


I might enjoy that just to see the speed of Plexa's 180 w/r/t Jaedong
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 12 2009 21:22 GMT
#59
Okay, I see.
Jaedong
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
August 12 2009 21:24 GMT
#60
I wonder how many players are willing to go "free agent" if their current team offers fairly same amount as their current salary. There might be risk that nobody picks you.
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