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NO MY LIQUIBET
Profile Joined May 2009
United States294 Posts
August 16 2009 01:27 GMT
#141
Perhaps we should have a liquibet predicting how many eligible players actually get transfered through this new rigged system.
NO MY LIQUIBET
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
August 16 2009 01:30 GMT
#142
so... SKT IS CORRUPT??? o.o
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
August 16 2009 01:35 GMT
#143
wow....
kespa hits new lows everytime i look at the opening post of the thread. first the ridiculous trading terms, then the forced contract signing, and finally the disallowance of player managers?
jesus fucking christ
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
August 16 2009 01:35 GMT
#144
Bullshit policy.

Looks more like a warped version of the NFL Rookie Draft. In both cases you are consigned to negotiating with one team, but at least NFL rookies can have an agent to discuss costs. They can threaten to sit out too. .

What's the point of a FA if you're restricted to one team and one team only? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being a FREE agent?

This favors rich teams so much. I thought baseball's FA policy was bad, but this one is just ridiculous.

baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 16 2009 01:41 GMT
#145
On August 16 2009 06:29 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2009 19:01 baubo wrote:
On August 14 2009 20:52 Shizuru~ wrote:
On August 14 2009 20:12 baubo wrote:
On August 14 2009 19:46 Carnac wrote:
Watch out kids, we have a real smartass on our hands here


*Shrugs* Weird how just commenting on smart business decisions turn me into being a smartass. But whatever floats your boat.


The reason people are getting so pissed off at this is because the sports and its players which we have all come to love is under serious abuse and exploitations, ans seriously, why are u posting in favor of kespa in these forums where people that LOVES this games and the pro-gamers? when it is obvious that kespa is fucking screwing up the players?

No need for fairness? what u like seeing Jaedong/Bisu or whoever u like being tossed around like slaves? Tell me this,

DO U NOT CARE ABOUT THE PLAYERS OTHER THAN THE GAMES THEY PLAY ON TV?

u don't give a shit as long they give u good entertaintment yes?

I got so furious reading that players aren't even allowed to pick whichever teams they like to go, and they still have the balls to call it FREE AGENTS, when they can't even employ an agent to represent them?

fuck this shit seriously, why are they all not on strike right now?


They could strike... and they'd fail hard.

This is a prime example of a business situation where one side having all the leverage and power. It's a very extreme case, which is what really grabbed my attention. Do I dislike it? Of course I do. But I look at what recourse the players have, and I can't find any. They are screwed because they have no power.
Yea I agree. At the end of the day you would expect their coaches to at least try and bring about better rights for the players. But when you find out that the SKT Coach is the head of KeSPA you just are lost for words... (other coaches are on kespa as well)


WTF? I didn't know that. So basically Kespa is made of coaches... who are paid by teams and therefore are only loyal to their teams.

Anyway, the fact that the head of SKT is also the head of Kespa makes it understandable why the rules favor rich teams so much.
Meh
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51397 Posts
August 16 2009 01:53 GMT
#146
lol coaches/managers have nothing to do with kespa, it's all run by the chairmans of the companies
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
August 16 2009 02:00 GMT
#147
On August 16 2009 10:53 GTR wrote:
lol coaches/managers have nothing to do with kespa, it's all run by the chairmans of the companies


That still doesn't make things any better. Chairmans of richer companies have a greater influence on KESPA than those with less money.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
August 16 2009 02:01 GMT
#148
We really need to have an "Atlas Shrugged" team headed up by Flash and Jaedong.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 16 2009 02:04 GMT
#149
On August 16 2009 11:00 Apex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2009 10:53 GTR wrote:
lol coaches/managers have nothing to do with kespa, it's all run by the chairmans of the companies


That still doesn't make things any better. Chairmans of richer companies have a greater influence on KESPA than those with less money.


and none of them care about the players
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 16 2009 02:08 GMT
#150
On August 16 2009 07:35 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2009 07:16 Shikyo wrote:
Like imagine Jaedong. If the highest bidder is like eSTRO he HAS to accept, otherwise he has to negotiate with hwaseung again and they can cut his pay to like 1/5 and he can't do anything about it unless he wants to spend half a year as a semi-pro. That being said, I'm sure some team like KTF would sell 90% of their players to get enough money for someone like Jaedong if necessary. But it also means that teams like CJ have no chance.

Or he could just negotiate a decent contract with Hwaseung in the first place and eSTRO (or any other team) would never get the chance to bid on him. But yeah, it's stupid

So you never thought that maybe Jaedong might deserve a better team? Of course you don't start seeking a new one if you're happy with your current one -_- If he wants to stay on Hwaseung what's the point. That was in the case he actually like, wanted to play in another team.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-16 02:17:48
August 16 2009 02:13 GMT
#151
Oz is a good team...Jaedong is not in the same situation as someone like Flash. Of course Oz depends on Jaedong, hes their ace, but at least Oz has decent preforming players. Proleague finals day 2 is a good example.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 16 2009 02:24 GMT
#152
On August 16 2009 11:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Oz is a good team...Jaedong is not in the same situation as someone like Flash. Of course Oz depends on Jaedong, hes their ace, but at least Oz has decent preforming players. Proleague finals day 2 is a good example.


Since when does a one shot day have any meaning in starcraft at all?

Oz players in Ro5 have actually been preforming nothing short of terrible... at least on KTF people like Violet started stepping up to the plate.
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FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 16 2009 02:39 GMT
#153
On August 16 2009 11:24 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2009 11:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Oz is a good team...Jaedong is not in the same situation as someone like Flash. Of course Oz depends on Jaedong, hes their ace, but at least Oz has decent preforming players. Proleague finals day 2 is a good example.


Since when does a one shot day have any meaning in starcraft at all?

Oz players in Ro5 have actually been preforming nothing short of terrible... at least on KTF people like Violet started stepping up to the plate.


But then how do u explaint that KT finished 7 and Oz 2?

Oz doesnt sux.. its just that Jaedong is to fucking good... like flash but even better.
BackHo, Lomo and Hiya maybe arent like Bisu with fantasy and canata but they give they get the enough wins to let JD do the rest (not like KT).
Just because they sucked on the last round they suck general... on the winners league Hiya was the second player and got 3 wins like 3 nights and 1 all kill.
Thats just 1 example.
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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
August 16 2009 03:03 GMT
#154
This is so stupid lol...
RIP eSTRO :(
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 16 2009 03:25 GMT
#155
1. The free agency period shouldn't be broken down into sections telling the players when they can and can't negotiate with whom... make it one week where the player can talk to any team at any time, and has to sign by the end of it.

2. The repayment policy is bullshit if the player's aren't already on contract. The point of free agency is that the player is free and no longer bound by contract. So... wtf
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
August 21 2009 21:09 GMT
#156
More wtf info was put in this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100349
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Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-22 03:48:48
August 22 2009 02:26 GMT
#157
Tragic, but thanks for the info!

I've just made a poll regarding this subject if anyone is interested:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100371
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
August 22 2009 03:56 GMT
#158
kespa is fail.

good thing sc2 is going to be run by blizzard.
555, kthxbai
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-22 04:33:08
August 22 2009 04:31 GMT
#159
I've been ordered by Carnac to move my poll too this thread instead. So here goes:

[image loading]

Poll: What's your oppinion on Kespa's Free Agent rules!?
(Vote): Too complicated, I don't understand a thing.
(Vote): Sounds resonable.
(Vote): I think Kespa should add more rules.
(Vote): GG! The players are being owned by Kespa!
(Vote): Tragic, but thanks for the info!
(Vote): It's neccesary for Kespa to keep some sort of control.
(Vote): How far has those plans of that ddos attack come?
(Vote): I just wanna watch another jaedong-vod :-(


Tell Kespa your oppinion!
General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
August 24 2009 07:17 GMT
#160
Are you sure that's not a mistranslation or something? Or there has to be at least some rule to prevent the 1 trillion won over 1 trillion years situation.
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