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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51475 Posts
August 12 2009 21:29 GMT
#61
On August 13 2009 00:36 MrHoon wrote:
New FA Article
Sauce

I had this posted up earlier, but I had trouble translating it
I really had no idea how to put this in better words in english
So any translator who stops by here wanna correct me please do...

But this is basically what the headlines say

"The main issue is regarding players with salaries less than 50 grand."

So remember this rule?
Show nested quote +
A) Repay 200% of the the progamer's annual salary to their original team, or B) Repay 100% of the progamer's annual salary to the original team, and give one player to the original team (excluding six players on their protected players list). Progamers who earn less than 50,000,000 Won a year are excluded from the repayment rule.


Well the article basically talks about how many players do have a salary lower than 50 grand (ie, Baby has a $6000 salary lolol).

And how players who should be getting paid more than they should could be getting financially abused by their sponsor.



I would post Korean Netizens comments here, but right now they're arguing whether working in a cubicle for 20 grand is better than being a progamer for 50grand


Well at least Baby makes more than 99% of the 14 year olds in Korea
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
August 12 2009 21:35 GMT
#62
On August 13 2009 06:20 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 00:39 StarBrift wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:32 Carnac wrote:
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all



This is true. Drafts work the way they do because teams will have the chance to raise new talent. It doesn't work with allready established stars. I mean who wants to see Bisu in Estro and Jaedong in MBC?


I might enjoy that just to see the speed of Plexa's 180 w/r/t Jaedong

But would that be more amusing than Pusan coming (back) to Oz?
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 12 2009 23:05 GMT
#63
I see a couple of good zergs on there for the picking~
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
August 13 2009 19:39 GMT
#64
On August 13 2009 00:22 EvoChamber wrote:
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On August 12 2009 17:41 Manifesto7 wrote:
On August 12 2009 17:29 konadora wrote:
*REPAYMENT RULES*
Teams that wish to acquire free agents must A) Repay 200% of the the progamer's annual salary to their original team, or B) Repay 100% of the progamer's annual salary to the original team, and give one player to the original team (excluding six players on their protected players list). Progamers who earn less than 50,000,000 Won a year are excluded from the repayment rule.


Basically a scheme to squeeze out more money.

Damn KeSPA.


Actually it is a way for poor teams to at least get compensation if the big 4 decide to throw around big dollars.


Just curious, who are the big 4? SKT, KT, Samsung, and Hwaseung?


I think the Big Four are SKT, KT, Samsung, and CJ. Hwaseung if i remember correctly is one of the poorer teams.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 20:49:55
August 13 2009 20:41 GMT
#65
On August 13 2009 00:32 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 00:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
That's how they do drafts, why not here?

Because it'd be really stupid?

I don't follow US Sports, so before the 1st progamer draft long ago I had never even heard of player drafting before. Back then I read up on it a little and found out that it's apparently common practice for you. I can see the merit of a draft when it comes to new players, who have yet to prove themselves (other than passing courage), but for later transfers? Where's the sense in that? Say Free wants to join a better team, say CJ or SKT. Why would you want him to have to negotiate with the bottom ranked PL teams first when he wants a better and not a worse team? That makes no sense at all

the system is in place because there exists, for either legal or natural reasons, monopoly control over a particular sport. so for example if major league baseball owners are the only ones with right or capability to run baseball, then they would want a draft so that they can control the player inflow and distribute it. if there is no such monopoly, then players who want to play baseball can negotiate independently with different leagues, and leverage them against each other. but if there is only one league, and one draft, then players have no choice but to enter drafts.

the concept of a league itself and organizations like kespa are there to concentrate market power by controlling who could own teams, and how they should run them. competitive leagues like gom for instance are helpful to players and the scene in general, but to the established interests they are a threat.

these things are there as a result of how the business of the sport has developed over the years.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 13 2009 20:47 GMT
#66
I dont get it really :O
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
August 13 2009 20:51 GMT
#67
On August 13 2009 00:26 n.DieJokes wrote:
If somehow Free and Jaedong moved to estro it would be the best day Ever


Fixed.
RIP eSTRO :(
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
August 13 2009 21:01 GMT
#68
On August 13 2009 08:05 Railz wrote:
I see a couple of good zergs on there for the picking~


Calm and Yellow[arcn] are hot bids right now
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
August 13 2009 22:05 GMT
#69
If free goes anywhere other than coming back to the Stars, it will be the worst day ever.
Zero fighting.
EEEE1234
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada55 Posts
August 14 2009 03:28 GMT
#70
SKT's chance to acquire a good zerg? They're going to need more than BO advantages to pull out their Zerg victories.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33422 Posts
August 14 2009 05:55 GMT
#71
updated with Kespa's new bullshit ruling
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 06:03:08
August 14 2009 05:59 GMT
#72
ahem

FUCK Kespa

edit: wonder if they're doing a blind bid auction because of the "Players informed of bidding teams: August 26th" bit

the players don't seem to be involved at all except whether they agree to a contract with their current team by Aug 20. if they don't, then they roll the dice and hope a team puts out a decent bid for them.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 06:06:45
August 14 2009 06:03 GMT
#73
That latest addition is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 14 2009 06:03 GMT
#74
what the hell..

when the fuck is this player's union ever coming about
Writerptrk
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
August 14 2009 06:11 GMT
#75
Wow, this really changes things.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 06:21:07
August 14 2009 06:19 GMT
#76
they should just Ebay the players while they're at it

it would make the process so much easier

lol netizens are forming to ddos Kespa site haha
dats racist
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
August 14 2009 06:21 GMT
#77
Mmm... being a free agent sounds awesome + Show Spoiler +
not
Moktira is da bomb
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 14 2009 06:38 GMT
#78
KESPA ADDENDUM: August 14th
Amongst the bidding teams, the player is UNABLE to select their team of choice, and MUST negotiate a contract with the team that bids the highest amount.
You must be fucking kidding

This blew me away.
You are now breathing manually.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 14 2009 06:41 GMT
#79
This draft is so complicated and basically a massive scheme by KeSPA to ensure they maintain their monopoly.

I hope the netizens succeed. KeSPA is a terrible governing organization.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 14 2009 06:45 GMT
#80
Sorry thunk D:
Fomos and Kespa are now deleting negative comments about the FA on their website
dats racist
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