EPTit's like TL is the only e-sports journalist site that doesnt support kespa
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GTR
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it's like TL is the only e-sports journalist site that doesnt support kespa | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On August 14 2009 15:46 GTR wrote: lol it's like TL is the only e-sports journalist site that doesnt support kespa FIGHT DA POWA | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
Interested in seeing how things will turn out. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33581 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On August 14 2009 15:38 ActualSteve wrote: KESPA ADDENDUM: August 14th Amongst the bidding teams, the player is UNABLE to select their team of choice, and MUST negotiate a contract with the team that bids the highest amount. You must be fucking kidding This blew me away. WHAT THE FUCK? This is one of the most stupid things I have heard in my entire life | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Does KeSPA have some sort of in-house competition as to who can come up with the most ridiculous and retarded ideas? Because that's pretty much the only explanation I can think of. | ||
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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Radical
United States481 Posts
So far the only things that I can think of that would stand a chance of changing Kespa's rules would be if many pro gamers went on strike, or if a new governing body came into power or something like that. Also, I just remembered that there are some pro tournaments that aren't governed by Kespa, like I think the heritage league wasn't (I could be wrong about that though), but really unless a new proleague, OSL, or MSL comes around (I don't know about GOM since I never watch it), I don't see any incentive for Kespa to change. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On August 14 2009 16:23 Carnac wrote: I mean seriously how can anyone think this is a good idea??? Does KeSPA have some sort of in-house competition as to who can come up with the most ridiculous and retarded ideas? Because that's pretty much the only explanation I can think of. Regardless of how much you or may think it sucks, I don't see why it's a retarded idea from Kespa's standpoint. Slave auctions tend to work better from team standpoint than free agency. It's not so long ago when even American sports had pretty much no FA. And teams buy and sell players like livestock. It really just boils down to the fact that players have absolutely no rights in the grand scheme of things, because they're not powerful enough to have any say in the matter. So Kespa can do whatever the hell they want. Why be fair when there's no need? | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Simple
United States801 Posts
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MannerMan
371 Posts
The fans can't really do anything short of a boycott, what really needs to happen is the players themselves demand a players' union. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On August 14 2009 16:50 Carnac wrote: Why be fair when there's no need? By the same logic I can ask why adhere to human rights when there's no need. Sup china? Great argument you have going there. Nice of you to bring countries into this. Because someone living in China can't possibly understand human rights. If I didn't dislike the rolleyes emoticon so much I'd use it right now. You might want to brush up on the history of American sports when it comes to player rights. Or for that matter, you could just ask illegal immigrants making below-minimum wage washing dishes and cleaning office buildings what they think of "fairness" and "human rights". | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
players should just boycott this, too bad that'll place them in a unbelievably shitty position. it's so unjust it's mind boggling. edit: On August 14 2009 17:10 baubo wrote: Nice of you to bring countries into this. Because someone living in China can't possibly understand human rights. If I didn't dislike the rolleyes emoticon so much I'd use it right now. You might want to brush up on the history of American sports when it comes to player rights. Or for that matter, you could just ask illegal immigrants making below-minimum wage washing dishes and cleaning office buildings what they think of "fairness" and "human rights". wait, so because it exists, it should be done. especially if there is economical gain? just so i know exactly where you stand. | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On August 14 2009 17:10 baubo wrote: I never said that you as a person can't understand human rights. You aren't China or the Chinese government for that matter. China is one of many examples, it was just the easiest to use (and Germany isn't perfect either). But that's besides the pointNice of you to bring countries into this. Because someone living in China can't possibly understand human rights. If I didn't dislike the rolleyes emoticon so much I'd use it right now. You might want to brush up on the history of American sports when it comes to player rights. Or for that matter, you could just ask illegal immigrants making below-minimum wage washing dishes and cleaning office buildings what they think of "fairness" and "human rights". Back to your argument: I don't see what the history of American sports has to do with it (and I don't care about US sports anyway). This isn't about history, this is about right here right now. I'm interested in Starcraft Progaming in Korea, why shouldn't I criticize it when they're very obviously doing something really bad? How can you even regard "why be fair when there's no need" a good argument? Come on, man  | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 14 2009 17:02 MannerMan wrote: The irony is that that "union" was originally kespa ...Hilariously poignant title edit. The fans can't really do anything short of a boycott, what really needs to happen is the players themselves demand a players' union. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On August 14 2009 17:16 Etherone wrote: wait, so because it exists, it should be done. especially if there is economical gain? just so i know exactly where you stand. I have no stance. Because after working for so many years I've pretty much immunized myself to corporate greed and exploitation of anything they can get away with. It's one thing if you're going to rip on S. Korea for having no laws to protect players from such unfair treatment. It's quite another to blame Kespa for just being greedy. On August 14 2009 17:23 Carnac wrote: I never said that you as a person can't understand human rights. You aren't China or the Chinese government for that matter. China is one of many examples, it was just the easiest to use (and Germany isn't perfect either). But that's besides the point Back to your argument: I don't see what the history of American sports has to do with it (and I don't care about US sports anyway). This isn't about history, this is about right here right now. I'm interested in Starcraft Progaming in Korea, why shouldn't I criticize it when they're very obviously doing something really bad? How can you even regard "why be fair when there's no need" a good argument? Come on, man I say it because companies are NEVER fair when there is no need to. This has nothing to do with America or Korea or past or present. It has always been the case. And it always will be. It has happened in every corner of the world. There's a reason why you have governments, laws, player unions, etc. trying their best to prevent such exploitation. | ||
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