well balanced opinion Artosis. I never thought about Felix's point of view

wtf is with no LAN for sc2. Thats such a ridiculous decision.
How much time and effort would have been used to enable LAN, compared to the years its been in development. Really bizarre and stupid choice by blizzard

LxRogue

United States1415 Posts

July 04 2009 08:17 GMT

#23

I don't think there's any denying Strelok's lead, but it definitely wasn't significant enough to give him an autowin.

For some perspective, look at progaming. I haven't followed the proscene forever, but the only instance in which a player was ruled the winner after the game ended early was July vs Bisu on Blue Storm. In that game, there was basically no way for July to lose; even a D player could have finished Bisu. I think Strelok could have been even farther ahead and it still should have been called a regame.

Patriot.dlk

Sweden5462 Posts

July 04 2009 08:24 GMT

#24

There's reasonable doubt about Strelok winning thus he cannot get the win. and... wait there's nothing worth saying would be stupid having another thread filled with arguments

nice vid Artosis!

ghermination

United States2851 Posts

July 04 2009 08:31 GMT

#25

i have to say that there is no way you can call this game. had the disconnect been 2 or 3 minutes later then it would have been much easier to make a decision.

foeffa

Belgium2115 Posts

July 04 2009 08:43 GMT

#26

Thorough explanation, tx. The news was great as usual.

baubo

China3370 Posts

July 04 2009 09:04 GMT

#27

I actually expected Strelok to have a bigger lead. One where he was already pushing and pwning Fenix's army. The fact that he hasn't even pushed makes me wonder why he even pushed for a win.

-Frog-

United States514 Posts

July 04 2009 09:35 GMT

#28

Any predictions on who the special interview will be?

cujo2k

Canada1044 Posts

July 04 2009 09:37 GMT

#29

On July 04 2009 15:36 IdrA wrote:

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his tank count wasnt high enough to absorb storms and roll anyway, he couldnt attack anytime soon and fenix's economy was alot better. strelok was 3 base but his scv count wasnt good and fenix was about to hit 5 base. fenix had something like 8-9 gate vs 6 fac too. strelok had just started a vessel and was about to take his fourth and was only 1-1, he was just gonna turtle and wait for grades and a vessel fleet, giving fenix's better economy and arbiters time to kick in, turning it into a normal desti pvt stalemate and it all comes down to how well recalls do. theres no way to call that game for either player. you cant just look at the supplies. ya if strelok had his 170 army set up outside fenix's base the game would be over, but he isnt able to do anything with his supply advantage so its pretty irrelevant at that point in the game.

and given that i hate fenix and he tried to disc artosis with spam bots during tsl i dont see how anyone can be claiming bias here

o_O i think this pretty much settles it, coming from idra..

WhuazGoodJaggah

Lesotho777 Posts

July 04 2009 10:04 GMT

#30

why you talk explicitly about 8 supply loss of strelok and not about that mine which will surely kill those 3 dragons as they are already damaged and walking towards the mine not away from it. i feel like you just try to argue from fenix point, just trying to get as many cases as possible which lower streloks advantage. for example you mention the lead of the upgrades which wont play a role very soon and the time window the upgrades will be ahead is so small that the chance of it having any influence at all on the game are very small. its also not good to show a static point in the game and judge it from there. i think strelok didnt unsige his tanks because he was busy with his dropship. this video has the taste of forcing others into your opinion instead of letting the ppl make their own by releasing the replay along with the video.

Strelok.

Ukraine42 Posts

July 04 2009 11:46 GMT

#31

So now according to precendent rule, after having disadvantage which is not critical, i can always disc from game and claim regame. Let's see how it works.

Ilikestarcraft

Korea (South)17741 Posts

July 04 2009 11:51 GMT

#32

go ahead

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

July 04 2009 11:53 GMT

#33

On July 04 2009 20:46 Strelok. wrote:
So now according to precendent rule, after having disadvantage which is not critical, i can always disc from game and claim regame. Let's see how it works.

next time be a fucking man and take the re, this whole drama is really unnecessary.

omninmo

2349 Posts

July 04 2009 12:10 GMT

#34

special interview is no doubt rekrul.
i wish artosis hadnt defended noLAN sc2.

Strelok.

Ukraine42 Posts

July 04 2009 12:11 GMT

#35

On July 04 2009 20:53 Itachii wrote:

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next time be a fucking man and take the re, this whole drama is really unnecessary.

I have already explained my decision to out. I see nothing more to be added.

Sadistx

Zimbabwe5568 Posts

July 04 2009 12:22 GMT

#36

On July 04 2009 20:46 Strelok. wrote:
So now according to precendent rule, after having disadvantage which is not critical, i can always disc from game and claim regame. Let's see how it works.

You're assuming his disconnect was intentional then?

SmokeMaxX

United States17 Posts

July 04 2009 12:22 GMT

#37

Wasn't it stated that there was major lag or some sort of connection problem? Thus, there's no reason to believe that the disconnect was on purpose? That would mean your situation has no bearing on the "precedent rule."

Random()

Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts

July 04 2009 12:32 GMT

#38

On July 04 2009 20:46 Strelok. wrote:
So now according to precendent rule, after having disadvantage which is not critical, i can always disc from game and claim regame. Let's see how it works.

Well, you are sort of technically right in this situation but still it would have been better sportsmanship if you just ignored that and agreed to regame. After all, the admins' judgment was made out of common sense, and not by following any rules, precedent or not. That is unless you believe he disconnected intentionally.

Integra

Sweden5626 Posts

July 04 2009 12:38 GMT

#39

On July 04 2009 20:53 Itachii wrote:

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next time be a fucking man and take the re, this whole drama is really unnecessary.