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FranzF1

Chile1710 Posts

July 05 2009 03:54 GMT

#101

We all are noobs compared to Tasteless/D.Lee/Artosis/Fenix/Strelok and for what I read its like this:
Favor to replay game 2:
Tasteless.
Artosis.
Fenix
Favor to replay game 1/2 (lol):
Lipton
Mad because the 3 people of the number 1 option change the first decision made by option 2:
Strelok
So the best thing to do is replay game 2 (because more people with GREAT SC knowledge say that its the best option), strelok doesn't want that and drop of the tourmanet... well Fenix won by W.O.

So this discusion of the game (if strelok was going to win or lose or something else) is useless IMO

Ilikestarcraft

Korea (South)17741 Posts

July 05 2009 03:57 GMT

#102

On July 05 2009 08:14 Crunchums wrote:
What happens if OSL is going on and bnet crashes?

they play on lan but sometimes the comps crash
so they usually replay the game

SmokeMaxX

United States17 Posts

July 05 2009 04:04 GMT

#103

On July 05 2009 06:44 mO.Palantir wrote:
Anf of course anything can happen ever...but if the better player is in a (clear) lead...one can asume he will win?

1) What does "being a better player" have to do with anything? If that affected anything, shouldn't Strelok have won game 1?

2) Obviously it wasn't a clear enough lead since we're arguing about it.

Not addressing the quote:
3) You can't have two people arbitrarily try to remake the game by hand because that requires them to time their upgrades in a way that is identical to the game at hand. Even an approximation is "off" and being off by a little bit would have a large effect since both sides know where each other is. Toss would be forced to turtle until his upgrades completed, Terran would want to attack soon but has given no indication of doing so in the game at hand.

4) "Toss can't defend the push"- A) That requires Terran to push soon which he's given no indication of. Any delay leads to more energy for the HTs and allows the Arbiter to come out. Also, it'd give time for Protoss to get his expansions set up and build more units. B) Terran would have to guess at which base to attack with his army. Does he go for the relatively undefended expansion or go straight into the main? If he goes to the expansion, does he get cut off by large Toss forces or is there a chance of a larger attack into one of his own bases? It's easy to see which of these is rational when you're a spectator, but being in the position is completely different especially minus all the intel.

Trap

United States395 Posts

July 05 2009 04:14 GMT

#104

Good news as always. About the Strelok game, replaying does make the most sense.

I remember ESWC Strelok vs WhiteRa where Strelok was in a fairly similar position but a recall and bad decision making turned the game quickly.

2/3 looking good for Strelok... :

3/3 to going terrible for Strelok:

MaRiNe23

United States747 Posts

July 05 2009 09:49 GMT

#105

I would really like it if incontrol would post here. He's usually good at preserving fair/reasonable judgement agaisnt hackers/cheaters and makes it top priority to make sure all games are played cleanly and dead set on making sure rules are followed correctly(basically setting a good example to the bw community). This reminds me of WCG USA Episode(whatever number it was)where he lost to dino 1-2 or something like that and dino's recording just "happened" to fuk up on the game that he won. In that thread incontrol said that why should we give dino(who's been caught hacking and even admits it)the benefit of the doubt in that situation? This is actually pretty similar here where fenix "suddenly" disconnects when he's a little bit behind and dino's recoding "suddenly" not working on the games that he wins. My point is if fenix has done shady stuff in the past why should we give him the benefit of the doubt? And if strelok knows this why would he want to replay the game over again and the fact that a large sum of money is on the line. Sadist also brings up a good point that terran would have to control his army alot better than the protoss so from a terrans perspective i would not want to replay that all over again and go through all that work..

edit: sorry my whole post seems like I'm saying fenix disconnected 100% which isn't the case but I'm just throwing out there that it could be a strong possibility given that he's done this before in the past(i think)so why give him the benefit of the doubt? I feel strelok deserved it.

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