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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
June 15 2009 01:23 GMT
#81
In Yongsan stadiium, they use close headphone. Just they put in-ear headphone and close headphone so there is noway that they can listen people etc. Moreover, players are in box. In MBC stadium, headphones aren't so close... TT
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
June 15 2009 01:45 GMT
#82
On June 15 2009 09:07 general.li wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 14:58 Ver wrote:

On June 09 2009 13:14 R3condite wrote:
On June 09 2009 02:30 Clasic wrote:
Looks like all terrans are cheaters.

like iloveoov??


Perfect ^^


like Xellos?


Genius ~.~
No I'm never serious.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 15 2009 01:46 GMT
#83
On June 15 2009 10:45 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2009 09:07 general.li wrote:
On June 09 2009 14:58 Ver wrote:

On June 09 2009 13:14 R3condite wrote:
On June 09 2009 02:30 Clasic wrote:
Looks like all terrans are cheaters.

like iloveoov??


Perfect ^^


like Xellos?


Genius ~.~

Like nada?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44394 Posts
June 15 2009 01:49 GMT
#84
On June 15 2009 10:46 QuietIdiot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2009 10:45 Nytefish wrote:
On June 15 2009 09:07 general.li wrote:
On June 09 2009 14:58 Ver wrote:

On June 09 2009 13:14 R3condite wrote:
On June 09 2009 02:30 Clasic wrote:
Looks like all terrans are cheaters.

like iloveoov??


Perfect ^^


like Xellos?


Genius ~.~

Like nada?

revolutionary-_-
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 15 2009 01:54 GMT
#85
Oh come on that one barely made sense.
Remember Violet.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
June 15 2009 01:56 GMT
#86
On June 15 2009 10:49 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2009 10:46 QuietIdiot wrote:
On June 15 2009 10:45 Nytefish wrote:
On June 15 2009 09:07 general.li wrote:
On June 09 2009 14:58 Ver wrote:

On June 09 2009 13:14 R3condite wrote:
On June 09 2009 02:30 Clasic wrote:
Looks like all terrans are cheaters.

like iloveoov??


Perfect ^^


like Xellos?


Genius ~.~

Like nada?

revolutionary-_-

Like Bisu?
+ Show Spoiler +
Fantasy
Jaedong
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 02:09:18
June 15 2009 02:07 GMT
#87
the first time i saw a SC broadcasted match, this was the first thing i thought when i heard the crowd screaming "AAAAHHH".
This is so obvious that i really found it strange nothing was done to prevent this.
The crowd perhaps even scream louder to help his favorite progamer.
Even a soudproof booth im not sure if is ideal to block 100 ppl screaming near it.
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Heaven_n
Profile Joined April 2009
Mexico170 Posts
June 15 2009 02:21 GMT
#88
howw in the world could he now he was getting rushed just by the faces or arms in the crowd? it was obvious after he 14 CCed he was getting harassed i really dont see the point
Savior: I will destroy everyone in 2009 if thats ok with u thanks
agarfin
Profile Joined May 2009
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 02:34:20
June 15 2009 02:29 GMT
#89
Really how much does 1 way glass cost..... i know it would suck to play in a mirrored room. Might be kinda claustrophobic, but it would solve all the problems. The booths already seem very well bright and the rest of the studio appears darker. I don't think it would be that hard to make it work.
RaisedbyLings
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada4 Posts
June 15 2009 02:31 GMT
#90
make it so that the players can't see outside but audience can see what's inside.
SuBlue
Profile Joined April 2009
United States59 Posts
June 15 2009 02:42 GMT
#91
Can't they just use that one way glass they use in police station line ups?
Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
June 15 2009 02:48 GMT
#92
Having the players face more away from the crowd would not be so far-fetched.

You just have to put their mugs up on big moniters so the crowd can still see them.

The games will never be "proven legit" until you take the crowd out the equation entirely. Who knows? Maybe there's someone in the crowd you've planned to glance at, off a mirror nearby, who's going to show you your opponents build order with his fingers?

Like most sports rules however, this is only going to get fixed when someone perfects how to cheat with it still being available and trounces everyone.
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
June 15 2009 03:26 GMT
#93
On June 15 2009 11:42 SuBlue wrote:
Can't they just use that one way glass they use in police station line ups?

This made me laugh. Did you not read the thread? You are suggesting this like it is an original idea of yours.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 15 2009 03:32 GMT
#94
On June 15 2009 11:29 agarfin wrote:
Really how much does 1 way glass cost..... i know it would suck to play in a mirrored room. Might be kinda claustrophobic, but it would solve all the problems. The booths already seem very well bright and the rest of the studio appears darker. I don't think it would be that hard to make it work.

As much as real glass... Because that's what it is. Lighting is what makes a one way mirror a one way mirror.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 03:56:48
June 15 2009 03:54 GMT
#95
On June 15 2009 11:42 SuBlue wrote:
Can't they just use that one way glass they use in police station line ups?


Jesus Christ 5 pages of this being suggested..... Read a few posts first please

On June 15 2009 11:31 RaisedbyLings wrote:
make it so that the players can't see outside but audience can see what's inside.


You mean like 1 way mirrors or something??
meow
Fishbone
Profile Joined July 2007
Hungary53 Posts
June 22 2009 22:57 GMT
#96
On June 09 2009 01:20 niteReloaded wrote:
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On June 08 2009 19:49 PH wrote:
It's really quite easy...

They just need to tell MBC to un-fail their studio. Someone mentioned that OGN has their booths higher up and angled so the players do not have a clear view of the audience. MBC does not.

Even better would be to install one way glass onto the booths so players can't see out regardless.

I thought that would be a good idea too, but on a second thought it might feel a bit claustrophobic.

Then place one way glass only that side of the booth, where the audience is.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
June 22 2009 23:21 GMT
#97
On June 23 2009 07:57 Fishbone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 01:20 niteReloaded wrote:
On June 08 2009 19:49 PH wrote:
It's really quite easy...

They just need to tell MBC to un-fail their studio. Someone mentioned that OGN has their booths higher up and angled so the players do not have a clear view of the audience. MBC does not.

Even better would be to install one way glass onto the booths so players can't see out regardless.

I thought that would be a good idea too, but on a second thought it might feel a bit claustrophobic.

Then place one way glass only that side of the booth, where the audience is.

The excitement is in being able to see the progamers.
Also, I'm not sure how you would light the audience area so brightly without disrupting the stage.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2937 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 23:33:03
June 22 2009 23:27 GMT
#98
On June 15 2009 10:23 GoSu wrote:
In Yongsan stadiium, they use close headphone. Just they put in-ear headphone and close headphone so there is noway that they can listen people etc. Moreover, players are in box. In MBC stadium, headphones aren't so close... TT

In the past the headphones looked identical to industrial strength ear protectors with a OGN sticker on it.
If it was in anyway possible to delay the game the commentators see like 15-25 seconds that would be best, thats been done in wc3 before, dunno if its possible for bw.

I think that if the booths have thick glass geared for being soundproof, there is some sort of white-noise inside the booth (to have the noise-cancellation effects of a fan or air filter on a loud setting), and the players wear the heavy duty ear protectors on top of noise cancellation earbuds, then there is almost no possibility for earhacking. After that its a simple matter of either having players face eachother and watching a players eyes (pointing a camera at their face and the crowd isnt much is it) so that atleast they can have a good idea if someone is crowdhacking), or booths can be raised up. And who knows if slightly raising the light of the booth and slightly lowering the light on the crowd (not mirror status) can make it harder to see the crowd, then no harm done, right?

You could also go raised booths that face eachother, best of both worlds.
Fuck KeSPA.
n
Profile Joined May 2009
United States48 Posts
June 22 2009 23:31 GMT
#99
Hey guys I have an idea. Why not use that kind of "one-way" type glass that allows you to see in but not allow the person on the other side to see out? It'd probably solve all these problems (kinda surprised it hasn't been said yet, tbh...).

But really, the best solution is to just have the players facing each other. This way the crowd can still see their profiles while the gamers can only see the audience out of the corner of their eyes. This makes it so the gamers can at least feel a little of the crowd's aura while not giving them any distinct advantage. Sure, it might not solve all the problems but it will make it much more difficult for the players to read the audience.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 23:34:51
June 22 2009 23:31 GMT
#100
On June 23 2009 08:27 oshibori_probe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2009 10:23 GoSu wrote:
In Yongsan stadiium, they use close headphone. Just they put in-ear headphone and close headphone so there is noway that they can listen people etc. Moreover, players are in box. In MBC stadium, headphones aren't so close... TT

In the past the headphones looked identical to industrial strength ear protectors with a OGN sticker on it.
If it was in anyway possible to delay the game the commentators see like 15-25 seconds that would be best, thats been done in wc3 before, dunno if its possible for bw.

Too many face shots are taken for this to work properly imo

I mean think about it, score is 2:2 ace match and we're right before a huge EEHANTIMING. But then all of a sudden we see a single shot of attacking player suddenly facepalming and bursting into tears
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