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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
June 08 2009 11:30 GMT
#21
It's a hard to fix problem imo.

Installing one-way glass is problematic because it would be very distracting seeing mass reflections all over the place around you.

You can't just face the booths away from the audience (even if you redid the main screen placement) because the fans need to be able to see the players or they might as well be playing online.

Only realistic solution seems to be having a smarter layout and positioning of the booths like OGN has it setup.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
June 08 2009 11:47 GMT
#22
On June 08 2009 20:03 Showtime! wrote:
It was a matter of time.

I'm shocked this form of 'cheating' hadn't come to the forefront sooner. Hopefully KESPA will listen and install one-way glass in the studios.

This could really dampen e-sports as a whole. The cussing is one thing; this is another.



Why do people keep repeating HURF DURF ONE WAY GLASS without reading the posts just before saying that it doesn't work like that.
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
June 08 2009 11:55 GMT
#23
Hire people in the audience to always pretend that there is cheese incoming no matter what is happening.

Thinking outside the box
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 12:19:02
June 08 2009 12:18 GMT
#24
On June 08 2009 20:04 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 19:53 konadora wrote:
Source


Just pump up the volume and listen, what he said is pretty much true

lol my bad
POGGERS
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
June 08 2009 12:19 GMT
#25
coming soon: opaque booths. imo
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 12:42:53
June 08 2009 12:30 GMT
#26
he was playing LIGHT, half of his games are cheese.

added:
I just watched the game, this isnt cheese.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
June 08 2009 12:31 GMT
#27
this aint that bad, considering back in the day they played IN the audience. Cheating obv happened all the time then.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
June 08 2009 12:40 GMT
#28
OMG I HAVE THE BEST IDEA EVER!
One way MIRRORS!
jkjk
If this gets out in the public, do you think there will be organized cheering in order to confuse any player that does this?
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 12:42:20
June 08 2009 12:41 GMT
#29
I read every post. All two pages. One-way glass is only one solution. I know it isn't an easy problem to fix; regardless, they WILL have to do something about it. Reflection or not; they should be paying attention to their bloody screens.

Unless your name is Reach.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
liquorice
Profile Joined August 2008
United States170 Posts
June 08 2009 12:49 GMT
#30
On June 08 2009 20:30 -orb- wrote:
It's a hard to fix problem imo.

Installing one-way glass is problematic because it would be very distracting seeing mass reflections all over the place around you.

You can't just face the booths away from the audience (even if you redid the main screen placement) because the fans need to be able to see the players or they might as well be playing online.

Only realistic solution seems to be having a smarter layout and positioning of the booths like OGN has it setup.


you don't need to have one-way glass all over the place, just between the players and the audience. The next could just be a normal booth.
fuck yeah zerglings!
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
June 08 2009 12:56 GMT
#31
Why don't we get Bunkie to stand in front of the booths, it would stop this cheating and be hilarious at that same time.
But all the gamers would hate it
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
June 08 2009 12:57 GMT
#32
They should just do the same as in the OGN studio :O Tilt the booths or whatever so that they can't see the audience.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 08 2009 13:07 GMT
#33
On June 08 2009 21:57 jello_biafra wrote:
They should just do the same as in the OGN studio :O Tilt the booths or whatever so that they can't see the audience.

MBC is too poor. COEX and LOOX has shown that.
POGGERS
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 08 2009 13:10 GMT
#34
Might be more fun if you just turn the booths to face each other, let them try to read the other person like in poker.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
June 08 2009 13:52 GMT
#35
just get a curtain outside the booth, roll it down during game time.
audience can still see the players in the player-cam.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
June 08 2009 13:52 GMT
#36
How are the netizens reacting to these cheating issue?
Could someone who read korean look around the korean forums?
perfecting the art of five pool forever
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
June 08 2009 13:55 GMT
#37
Few things about the original post:
- Game is quite old, from October 08.
- Since when is 2 Factory considered cheese?
- Waving at 5:30 into the game could mean anything.
- Flash was hardly prepared for that but defended well.


This just seems like a bad example of looking at the crowd to cheat.
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
June 08 2009 13:59 GMT
#38
If the player can't even see the audience then that makes it so impersonal imo. Might as well just get rid of the crowd all together. In every other "sport" the crowd can make a difference and pump up the player. Sure a player could gain an advantage out of it. But whats to stop the other player using it the exact same way?
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
June 08 2009 14:08 GMT
#39
이영호 so honnest!!
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
June 08 2009 14:08 GMT
#40
On June 08 2009 22:55 ReS wrote:
Few things about the original post:
- Game is quite old, from October 08.
- Since when is 2 Factory considered cheese?
- Waving at 5:30 into the game could mean anything.
- Flash was hardly prepared for that but defended well.


This just seems like a bad example of looking at the crowd to cheat.

Pretty sure the point is that Flash said after the game he saw someone in the crowd waving, knew what was happening, and was thus prepared.
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