It's a hard to fix problem imo.

Installing one-way glass is problematic because it would be very distracting seeing mass reflections all over the place around you.

You can't just face the booths away from the audience (even if you redid the main screen placement) because the fans need to be able to see the players or they might as well be playing online.

Only realistic solution seems to be having a smarter layout and positioning of the booths like OGN has it setup.

infinity2k9

United Kingdom2397 Posts

June 08 2009 11:47 GMT

#22

On June 08 2009 20:03 Showtime! wrote:
It was a matter of time.

I'm shocked this form of 'cheating' hadn't come to the forefront sooner. Hopefully KESPA will listen and install one-way glass in the studios.

This could really dampen e-sports as a whole. The cussing is one thing; this is another.

Why do people keep repeating HURF DURF ONE WAY GLASS without reading the posts just before saying that it doesn't work like that.

RedTerror

New Zealand742 Posts

June 08 2009 11:55 GMT

#23

Hire people in the audience to always pretend that there is cheese incoming no matter what is happening.

Thinking outside the box

konadora

Singapore66363 Posts

June 08 2009 12:18 GMT

#24

On June 08 2009 20:04 SaveYourSavior wrote:

Show nested quote +

Just pump up the volume and listen, what he said is pretty much true

lol my bad

Pholon

Netherlands6142 Posts

June 08 2009 12:19 GMT

#25

coming soon: opaque booths. imo

anch

United States5457 Posts

June 08 2009 12:30 GMT

#26

he was playing LIGHT, half of his games are cheese.

added:
I just watched the game, this isnt cheese.

Dazed.

Canada3301 Posts

June 08 2009 12:31 GMT

#27

this aint that bad, considering back in the day they played IN the audience. Cheating obv happened all the time then.

OreoBoi

Canada1639 Posts

June 08 2009 12:40 GMT

#28

OMG I HAVE THE BEST IDEA EVER!
One way MIRRORS!
jkjk
If this gets out in the public, do you think there will be organized cheering in order to confuse any player that does this?

Showtime!

Canada2938 Posts

June 08 2009 12:41 GMT

#29

I read every post. All two pages. One-way glass is only one solution. I know it isn't an easy problem to fix; regardless, they WILL have to do something about it. Reflection or not; they should be paying attention to their bloody screens.

Unless your name is Reach.

liquorice

United States170 Posts

June 08 2009 12:49 GMT

#30

On June 08 2009 20:30 -orb- wrote:
It's a hard to fix problem imo.

Installing one-way glass is problematic because it would be very distracting seeing mass reflections all over the place around you.

You can't just face the booths away from the audience (even if you redid the main screen placement) because the fans need to be able to see the players or they might as well be playing online.

Only realistic solution seems to be having a smarter layout and positioning of the booths like OGN has it setup.

you don't need to have one-way glass all over the place, just between the players and the audience. The next could just be a normal booth.

OreoBoi

Canada1639 Posts

June 08 2009 12:56 GMT

#31

Why don't we get Bunkie to stand in front of the booths, it would stop this cheating and be hilarious at that same time.
But all the gamers would hate it

jello_biafra

United Kingdom6642 Posts

June 08 2009 12:57 GMT

#32

They should just do the same as in the OGN studio :O Tilt the booths or whatever so that they can't see the audience.

konadora

Singapore66363 Posts

June 08 2009 13:07 GMT

#33

On June 08 2009 21:57 jello_biafra wrote:
They should just do the same as in the OGN studio :O Tilt the booths or whatever so that they can't see the audience.

MBC is too poor. COEX and LOOX has shown that.

Count9

China10928 Posts

June 08 2009 13:10 GMT

#34

Might be more fun if you just turn the booths to face each other, let them try to read the other person like in poker.

anch

United States5457 Posts

June 08 2009 13:52 GMT

#35

just get a curtain outside the booth, roll it down during game time.
audience can still see the players in the player-cam.

JohnBall

Brazil1272 Posts

June 08 2009 13:52 GMT

#36

How are the netizens reacting to these cheating issue?
Could someone who read korean look around the korean forums?

RyanS

United States620 Posts

June 08 2009 13:55 GMT

#37

Few things about the original post:
- Game is quite old, from October 08.
- Since when is 2 Factory considered cheese?
- Waving at 5:30 into the game could mean anything.
- Flash was hardly prepared for that but defended well.

This just seems like a bad example of looking at the crowd to cheat.

Ludrik

Australia523 Posts

June 08 2009 13:59 GMT

#38

If the player can't even see the audience then that makes it so impersonal imo. Might as well just get rid of the crowd all together. In every other "sport" the crowd can make a difference and pump up the player. Sure a player could gain an advantage out of it. But whats to stop the other player using it the exact same way?

GoSu

Korea (South)1773 Posts

June 08 2009 14:08 GMT

#39

이영호 so honnest!!

Ingenol

United States1328 Posts

June 08 2009 14:08 GMT

#40

On June 08 2009 22:55 ReS wrote:
Few things about the original post:
- Game is quite old, from October 08.
- Since when is 2 Factory considered cheese?
- Waving at 5:30 into the game could mean anything.
- Flash was hardly prepared for that but defended well.

This just seems like a bad example of looking at the crowd to cheat.

Pretty sure the point is that Flash said after the game he saw someone in the crowd waving, knew what was happening, and was thus prepared.