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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
May 14 2009 00:40 GMT
#221
question : in the first game when gorush typed ㅎㅎ, was he typing gg cus he lost or was he replying to opponent's gg?
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
May 14 2009 00:42 GMT
#222
On May 14 2009 08:11 .risingdragoon wrote:
The rule says don't type anything other than gg GG or pp/ppp. If you want to take this progaming thing to the next level, you gotta hold everyone to the same standard, so there's gonna be rules like this.


What is "the next level"? No professional sport that I know of forbids players from talking to each other. And if they did, I'm pretty sure accidentally typing a would be the equivalent of sighing and not worth disqualifying someone from a major tournament.
BW forever || Thall
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66156 Posts
May 14 2009 00:43 GMT
#223
On May 14 2009 09:40 gameguard wrote:
question : in the first game when gorush typed ㅎㅎ, was he typing gg cus he lost or was he replying to opponent's gg?

Because he lost
POGGERS
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 00:48:29
May 14 2009 00:44 GMT
#224
On May 14 2009 09:40 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2009 09:35 .risingdragoon wrote:
Oh my god, here's the answer in baby talk. I suggest you listen up.

backho/firefist problem is not preemptive gg itself, it's having no rule in place to give a fair and balanced call for a situation that isn't your standard GG.

solution? standardize the GG.

The fuck are you talking about. Progamers have been typing "gg", "GG", "ㅈㅈ", "ㅎㅎ", "지지", "zizi" and many more followed by the "요" or yO or y0 if they chose to.

The issue was that our favourite dumbass gg'ed before his opponent when he was clearly winning. It has always been common etiquette for the loser to type out first. The controversy was over backho typing out first, not over him saying "zizi y0".

Making a rule that players may only say "gg" or "GG" for typing out does not address the main issue of the backho/firefist controversy at all.

I suggest you read this over about five times, because it seems like your mental capabilities are rather suspect.

Listen to you, what a remedial kid.

The controversy was over how to rule in a situation like this that is fair to both players. Backho won but he also surrendered. With no rules, Kespa asked firefist, which wasn't fair to him, he had to call it cus he lost.

SO you make a rule that includes all the possible scenarios, including typing GG first when you're winning and typing something else. The rule precedes all future games so it's fair to everybody. If you type ingame it's on you.

Man if you don't understand that then you stupid, that is all.
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
May 14 2009 00:47 GMT
#225
Rules should be

no typing during the game. you get 2 warnings then a disqualification.
Whoever leaves the game first loses.
General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 00:48:43
May 14 2009 00:47 GMT
#226
On May 14 2009 09:44 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2009 09:40 koreasilver wrote:
On May 14 2009 09:35 .risingdragoon wrote:
Oh my god, here's the answer in baby talk. I suggest you listen up.

backho/firefist problem is not preemptive gg itself, it's having no rule in place to give a fair and balanced call for a situation that isn't your standard GG.

solution? standardize the GG.

The fuck are you talking about. Progamers have been typing "gg", "GG", "ㅈㅈ", "ㅎㅎ", "지지", "zizi" and many more followed by the "요" or yO or y0 if they chose to.

The issue was that our favourite dumbass gg'ed before his opponent when he was clearly winning. It has always been common etiquette for the loser to type out first. The controversy was over backho typing out first, not over him saying "zizi y0".

Making a rule that players may only say "gg" or "GG" for typing out does not address the main issue of the backho/firefist controversy at all.

I suggest you read this over about five times, because it seems like your mental capabilities are rather suspect.

Listen to you, what a remedial kid.

The controversy was over how to rule in a situation like this that is fair to both players. Backho won but he also surrendered. With no rules, Kespa asked firefist, which wasn't fair to him, he had to call it cus he lost.

SO you make a rule that includes all the possible scenarios, including typing GG first when you're winning and typing something else. The rule precedes all future games so it's fair to everybody. If you type ingame it's on you.

Man if you don't understand that you stupid, that is all.

Yes the rule is fair to everybody but its also retarded.

If you decided the penalty for typing in game was death by firing squad and held everybody to the same standard it'd be fair to everybody as well.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 00:49:22
May 14 2009 00:48 GMT
#227
So creating a rule where you get disqualified immediately if you type anything besides "gg", "GG", and "pp/ppp" regardless of situation somehow gives referees a correct way to rule over situations where someone types out first?

But wait, a player just accidentally typed "a" at the beginning of a game and he was disqualified; how does that have anything to do with ruling over any kind of situation in a way that is fair to both players?

Do you not realize the stupidity of what you're trying to say?

You can't even agree with yourself to begin with; you're completely incapable of arguing anything coherently right now.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
May 14 2009 00:58 GMT
#228
On May 14 2009 09:47 gameguard wrote:
Rules should be

no typing during the game. you get 2 warnings then a disqualification.
Whoever leaves the game first loses.

That would be the perfect change! Not a rule open to interpretation by the stupid referees.

Poor Gorush, and just when I thought that kespa was trying to change:/
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 01:00:57
May 14 2009 00:58 GMT
#229
Listen, the rule is fair. It doesn't make anybody more likely to type anything over his opponent. It precedes the game so it's even.

Do ppl mistakenly type sometimes? Yeah. So in the future changes should be made. But that's not the problem today.

The REAL issue today is making sure the comp types English, and that is the responsibility of the league organizers, OGN.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 14 2009 01:00 GMT
#230
Obviously this is a good thing. I'm sure the 'a' was signal to someone in the audience who would then throw something at backho's booth distracting him at a key timing in the game gorush could take advantage of.

This was definitely for the players and the integrity of the game.

-_____-;;



God this is so bad...I really wanted GoRush to do well...this is the first time an ACE player has made it this far up in an individual league, isn't it?
Hello
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
May 14 2009 01:02 GMT
#231
It's not hard to follow these rules. If they just did it wouldn't be a problem.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 14 2009 01:02 GMT
#232
On May 14 2009 09:58 .risingdragoon wrote:
Listen, the rule is fair. It doesn't make anybody more likely to type anything over his opponent. It precedes the game so it's even.

Do ppl mistakenly type sometimes? Yeah. So in the future changes should be made. But that's not the problem today.

The REAL issue today is making sure the comp types English, and that is the responsibility of the league organizers, OGN.

Do you understand anything?

Good god.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
May 14 2009 01:05 GMT
#233
I dunno, do you? It's like you don't even why Gorush typed A. It's cus he typed korean in game 1.

Good god is right.
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
May 14 2009 01:05 GMT
#234
On May 14 2009 10:05 .risingdragoon wrote:
I dunno, do you? It's like you don't even why Gorush typed A. It's cus he typed korean in game 1.

Good god is right.


thats not the REAL issue
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
May 14 2009 01:06 GMT
#235
When I'm about to lose a game, i ask my opponent "what's the first letter of the English alphabet?". They respond and get DQ'd
meow
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 01:07:56
May 14 2009 01:07 GMT
#236
On May 14 2009 10:05 gameguard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2009 10:05 .risingdragoon wrote:
I dunno, do you? It's like you don't even why Gorush typed A. It's cus he typed korean in game 1.

Good god is right.


thats not the REAL issue

That's exactly the issue. If his GG didn't come out korean, he wouldn't have typed A in game 32 to test it.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 14 2009 01:09 GMT
#237
On May 14 2009 10:07 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2009 10:05 gameguard wrote:
On May 14 2009 10:05 .risingdragoon wrote:
I dunno, do you? It's like you don't even why Gorush typed A. It's cus he typed korean in game 1.

Good god is right.


thats not the REAL issue

That's exactly the issue. If his GG didn't come out korean, he wouldn't have typed A in game 32 to test it.

All Korean operating systems and keyboards are capable of typing in both Korean and English. This is why your argument is completely idiotic.

You're absolutely clueless.

gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
May 14 2009 01:12 GMT
#238
On May 14 2009 10:07 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2009 10:05 gameguard wrote:
On May 14 2009 10:05 .risingdragoon wrote:
I dunno, do you? It's like you don't even why Gorush typed A. It's cus he typed korean in game 1.

Good god is right.


thats not the REAL issue

That's exactly the issue. If his GG didn't come out korean, he wouldn't have typed A in game 32 to test it.



If his keyboard didnt have a G key, he wouldt have typed ㅎㅎ. Thats the REAL issue
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 01:17:17
May 14 2009 01:15 GMT
#239
Heh I'm just repeating the report. He typed a to test it. Instead of deleting it, it came out. He got disqualified. The rule says if unsanctioned text comes out, you're disqualified.

Is it harsh? Yeah. But is it fair to both players? Yeah. This whole thing, just like backho/firefist, is all about opinions.

And the opinions are always on the side of the players. I'm no lover of Kespa, but I'm still pointing out that it's not fair to them.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
May 14 2009 01:23 GMT
#240
That doesn't make any sense. It's "fair" because it would fuck both people over equally if they mistakenly typed "a".

Sure, I guess.

But it's not a fair rule in the first place! Have these regulations EVER been enforced in a case where it wasn't an honest mistake? Assigning a penalty of disqualification for typing "a" mistakenly... what the hell is fair about that?
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