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On May 14 2009 03:33 Spanxxx wrote:
imagine being rich already and making it to the grand final and just typing 'a' 3 games in a row for shits n giggles. i think one of the decorated pros should do it as a big 'fuck you' to kespa..
Hah, imagine if EVERYONE does it in every game and accidentally makes typos (It's really not that unreasonable...) No game would get played, and the next osl champ gets to be the guy who doesn't actually play! (but get disqualified of something else...)
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It should be about who fucking wins, not this random bullshit.
After backho accidentally pre-gg'd that one time, and the other guy still let him advance, backho needs to back the fuck down.
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outrageous. they really need to have a serious look at their rules and realize that these little mistakes happen, if they want to be a large e-sport you can't be all nazi over this stupid stuff, seriously.
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United States13896 Posts
On May 14 2009 03:38 PanN wrote:
It should be about who fucking wins, not this random bullshit.
After backho accidentally pre-gg'd that one time, and the other guy still let him advance, backho needs to back the fuck down.
As evidenced by his interview it obviously wasn't BackHo's decision as to whether to keep playing or give GoRush the DQ.
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This is BS.
Thanks for the translations though.
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On May 13 2009 22:28 RubiksCube wrote:
So basically, it's not the KeSPA that is being retarded here (though their rules clearly are questionable: why do you need such strict rules if you have Referees in every game? Shouldn't the refs have even more freedom to pass judgements based on the events), it was basically the Refs fault.
Last time, with the "pp" issue, I felt the problem was all in the rules. Here though, I have to agree: the referee on scene had the rule-backed authority to adjudicate this as he saw fit. It was an early-game pause, but again, the ref has the authority to decide if the pause request was reasonable/accidental, and if it constituted material harm to his opponent.
Referees should know that they are there to enforce the rules and make sure that the game is fair. If a player does something that is not causing material harm to the game, then just let it go. Obviously if it was a mid-game pause, that's unacceptable. But if they're in the early game, then yes, refs need the judgment to keep going.
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On May 13 2009 19:31 konadora wrote:UPDATE Apparently, GoRush was typing something to see if his text was in Korea or English (hotkeys don't work when in Korean, as well as he wanted to avoid typing 'ㅎㅎ' again).
mmm.. hotkeys do work when you're in Korean Hangul mode if the entire machine is set to Korean (which is definitely for sure over there to support lobby/ingame/names in hangul.) so if you're in Hangul during the lobby and need to build the first drone, "ㄴㅇ" is just as good as "sd".
but if your machine is like mine (English/US), hotkeys will not work when you're in Korean Hangul mode.
I never took the time to figure out why it works this way.
on a separate note: as expected, they would work in Korean Eng mode (although I'm not sure why right-ctrl does not work. maybe a difference in keyboard scan codes between english and korean keyboards. for this I switch completely over to English keyboard layout instead of Korean layout + Eng mode.)
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DQ'ing someone for a fucking OSL qualifying match is just so harsh....
what the fuck is kespa's problem OMG. poor gorush 
We need an anti kespa revolution
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I think the entire community is tired of stupid default wins instead of getting to you know, actually WATCH starcraft. This is going way too far, way too many DQs for non serious things...
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Stupid GoRush. Its like he dosent know these rules ? Man, I dont play proleague, I dont even watch that often and I know this shit ....
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I really hope that a DQ occurs during the finals because if it does, Kespa is going to get so much shit from it that they're going to have to be forced to reform-just like Baseball with its steroid problem. It's basically the only solution I can think of because Kespa is just that idiotic.
Kespa, by pulling these idiotic stunts, are actually probably losing a sizable amount of fans, who don't want to put up with these fucking nitpicky and really pointless rules.
Damnit Backho, why'd you have to use your offensive gg, if it wasn't for that, we might actually have had none of this shit occur.
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Wow........that's incredibly gay. Kespa is doing too much things to fuck up esports. And here I thought they sort of learned their lesson when they changed the 'ppp' rule. Progamers/fans better protest against this bullshit.
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Oh wow. Getting eliminated from OSL by a stupid ass technicality. Kespa is fucking harsh
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On May 13 2009 23:55 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2009 23:53 JWD wrote:
Related question: TL admins, have you decided whether these matches are going to count in Liquibet? I don't think any matches which include a disqualification or any matches which had a (post-bet) play-in including a disqualification should count for LB. We're trying to predict SC skill here, not who will accidentally type the letter "a". I agree with this and I'm not just saying that b/c I LB Gorush only to seem him lose in the worst possible way with a DQ....
Quoting my post in the LB thread:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 14 2009 05:52 o3.power91 wrote:It seems either decision made by the mods for this LB is unfair . I voted Backho to qualify personally. Backho was ahead by 1 game to be fair. Also technically GoRush DID lose the game (although unfairly). And in the end Backho 2-0'd Tester and qualified for the Ro16. I'm pretty sure no one who LB'd Backho for the first series expected GoRush to be dq'd. However they DID bet correctly, just like a case with an upset. You can argue that LB is supposedly betting on players' skill but say for example Jaedong plays against a weak no name Protoss and the Protoss cheeses and wins (it has happened before). Jaedong is still obviously the more skilled player. He still lost though. It would be unfair for the people who voted correctly to lose these points. On the other hand GoRush did lose unfairly as I had mentioned. If the games were all played without Gayspa bullshit we don't know who would've won. Maybe GoRush would've won 2-1 after being down 0-1. Maybe he would've beat Tester as well (let's face it, Tester sucks more than almost any other player in the OSL). It would be unfair to the people who voted for GoRush if they lose points due to an unfair rule that had nothing to do with the game itself. I remember a case once in the OSL (EVER07 or Bacchus08; I forgot which one): July vs Bisu on Blue Storm in Ro16. July went for an early aggression build that caught Bisu off guard. Technically Bisu lost the game but had never surrendered since the game got disconnected as July was about to deal the finishing blow. Before the ref made his decision of whether to give the win to July or to have a rematch, the mods had already given July-voters the point for the LB. I'm not sure what will be done this time and I'm not sure what SHOULD be done. I'm not taking either sides for now  It's up to the mods. + Show Spoiler +PS. I think LB is the least of anyone's concern right about now Even though I voted Backho for both games, I don't really mind what decision the mods make. I would just like to ask if its possible to see the graphs of the number of voters for each of the players
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"refs with 2 wins"
haha
on a serious note, i think all players should start breaking these rules intentionally. Both players autodisqualifying on EVERY game should be enough to let Kespa know they are a bunch of idiots.
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god kespa is just the worst :[
who do they think they are, WCG?
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On May 14 2009 05:00 kroko wrote:
Stupid GoRush. Its like he dosent know these rules ? Man, I dont play proleague, I dont even watch that often and I know this shit ....
wow you are a genius. you're also a gay fish right?
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dumbest thing i have ever read
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wow this is so lame.. i really want to see the progamers boycott this in some way. They should all type 'a' in every game and see what kespa does. holy shit, kespa is so dumb
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EPT
