On May 14 2009 07:58 .risingdragoon wrote:
It's not that dumb.

Gorush made a mistake, what are you gonna do? You have to enforce your rules so people will take it seriously.

GoRush didn't really break the rules so much if you interpret the rule reasonably (game 2). Furthermore, the problem is that the rule itself sucks.

Rostam

United States2552 Posts

May 13 2009 23:05 GMT

#206

On May 14 2009 07:58 .risingdragoon wrote:
It's not that dumb.

Gorush made a mistake, what are you gonna do? You have to enforce your rules so people will take it seriously.

Yeah, imagine the uproar if the referee hadn't disqualified GoRush for typing a. Progamers, knowing that they can now type a and get away with it, would all start typing a. It would be anarchy.

.risingdragoon

United States3021 Posts

May 13 2009 23:11 GMT

#207

The rule says don't type anything other than gg GG or pp/ppp. If you want to take this progaming thing to the next level, you gotta hold everyone to the same standard, so there's gonna be rules like this. And since it's still new, people are gonna fumble, test the waters, whatever.

You can't just understand this from your own "sitting at home playing" angle. It doesn't matter to you, but pros get paid to be pros. You don't wanna make a mistake in the game, so don't make a mistake pregame. It's not that hard to not press enter.

RedTerror

New Zealand742 Posts

May 13 2009 23:14 GMT

#208

On May 14 2009 07:58 .risingdragoon wrote:
It's not that dumb.

Gorush made a mistake, what are you gonna do? You have to enforce your rules so people will take it seriously.

How about not having a stupid rule to enforce in the first place or at least not have the penalty a full disqualification.

.risingdragoon

United States3021 Posts

May 13 2009 23:16 GMT

#209

They kinda already did following the rule change when Pure and a few other guys typed something else. They let it pass and ppl kept doing it.

Since the rules are made to avoid another backho/firefist so ppl know what to do, this is a coaching issue now. Make sure your players know the rules, practice the right maps, etc.

Nemesis

Canada2568 Posts

May 14 2009 00:05 GMT

#210

This sucks, down with kespa!

Frits

11782 Posts

May 14 2009 00:05 GMT

#211

kespa why do you do these things to me

koreasilver

9109 Posts

May 14 2009 00:07 GMT

#212

I'm not sure how "only being allowed to type "gg", "GG", "pp", and "ppp" help at all to avoid another preemptive gg controversy.

If you think it does, then I have to question your thinking capabilities.

Grobyc

Canada18410 Posts

May 14 2009 00:19 GMT

#213

omfg this pisses me off -_-

so many rules are utter bullshit IMO but I guess I can't really change them.

Anyway, thanks for the translation konadora.

.risingdragoon

United States3021 Posts

May 14 2009 00:23 GMT

#214

I dunno who you talking to, but here's your answer.

It's not suppose to "avoid" it, it's suppose to have the rule in place so the refs know how to call it when it happens.

Simple, if you preemptively gg, you lose. If you ziziyO you lose by forfeit.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

May 14 2009 00:28 GMT

#215

On May 14 2009 08:16 .risingdragoon wrote:
They kinda already did following the rule change when Pure and a few other guys typed something else. They let it pass and ppl kept doing it.

Since the rules are made to avoid another backho/firefist so ppl know what to do, this is a coaching issue now. Make sure your players know the rules, practice the right maps, etc.

On May 14 2009 09:23 .risingdragoon wrote:
I dunno who you talking to, but here's your answer.

It's not suppose to "avoid" it, it's suppose to have the rule in place so the refs know how to call it when it happens.

Simple, if you preemptively gg, you lose. If you ziziyO you lose by forfeit.

Cool bro.

Turbovolver

Australia2447 Posts

May 14 2009 00:32 GMT

#216

I love these people who come here specifically to argue against anti-KeSPA sentiment, and then try to figure out an argument after that.

Nice work shutting him down koreasilver ^^

.risingdragoon

United States3021 Posts

May 14 2009 00:35 GMT

#217

Oh my god, here's the answer in baby talk. I suggest you listen up cus this is remedial.

backho/firefist problem is not preemptive gg itself, it's having no rule in place to give a fair and balanced call for a situation that isn't your standard GG.

solution? standardize the GG. allow no other texting.

Any nub can be anti-establishment. I suggest you use ur brain a bit.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

May 14 2009 00:35 GMT

#218

The second post was the one that immediately followed the first one in this thread too.

Oh my lol.

Skyze

Canada2324 Posts

May 14 2009 00:37 GMT

#219

they should impliment like a two strike rule.. first time you type something you get a warning, 2nd time its disqualify.. that would weed out the mistake typings i think.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

May 14 2009 00:40 GMT

#220

On May 14 2009 09:35 .risingdragoon wrote:
Oh my god, here's the answer in baby talk. I suggest you listen up.

backho/firefist problem is not preemptive gg itself, it's having no rule in place to give a fair and balanced call for a situation that isn't your standard GG.

solution? standardize the GG.

The fuck are you talking about. Progamers have been typing "gg", "GG", "ㅈㅈ", "ㅎㅎ", "지지", "zizi" and many more followed by the "요" or yO or y0 if they chose to.

The issue was that our favourite dumbass gg'ed before his opponent when he was clearly winning. It has always been common etiquette for the loser to type out first. The controversy was over backho typing out first, not over him saying "zizi y0".

Making a rule that players may only say "gg" or "GG" for typing out does not address the main issue of the backho/firefist controversy at all.

I suggest you read this over about five times, because it seems like your mental capabilities are rather suspect.