EPTOn April 29 2009 01:47 MasterReY wrote:
Yes of course. i have the same opinion.
Rule is stupid and kespa shouldnt DQ leta. I'm just posting against people who try to make kespas decision worse by saying "omg kespa is stupid because he didn't even saw what he was typing.
You can stop digging now. It's fine. The hole is deep enough. Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 01:45 Juicyfruit wrote:
Obviously, your ability to judge whether you typed something correctly would be further impaired if you could not even see clearly what you're typing.
However, I am also saying that even if the screen was working perfectly, it's still a dumb rule to uphold because under the pressure of a match, it's unreasonable to ask players to divert their attention from the game to concentrate on HOW TO PAUSE THE GAME properly.
On April 29 2009 01:41 MasterReY wrote:
im happy you totally confirmed my point.
The whole reason for my post was to say that comments like "monitor was broken he couldn't check what he was typing" are stupid.
you just said he had no time to check in the heat of the moment. So monitor not needed. correct?
On April 29 2009 01:37 Juicyfruit wrote:
You're missing the point, smart guy. Leta did not PURPOSELY choose to disobey the rules, but in the heat of the moment, especially with a malfunctioning screen, he HAD to rush to get the game paused and therefore cannot be bothered to double-check.
What you're asking Leta is to take time to PROOFREAD what he wrote several times on a flickering screen, which obviously takes more time than 0.1s
On April 29 2009 01:30 MasterReY wrote:
Your just saying that he has no time to type ONE letter more because his opponents gets an advantage because he can't play in that 0.1 sec?
On April 29 2009 01:18 Juicyfruit wrote:
Dude, you gotta realize that the game IS STILL GOING ON because after the issue is resolved, the game will resume where it stopped. Anyone who knows anything about SC will know that you cannot just sit there doing nothing for 20 seconds and not suffer massive advantage. Even 5 seconds will cost you. Leta doesn't have the luxury of just sitting there and type "P"'s all day.
On April 29 2009 00:58 MasterReY wrote:
1. He can know he posted 2. But ok lets assume he didn't
2. if he's unsure he can still backspace and type "ppp" again. and yes he should take the effort and backspace if he's unsure, because its clearly stated in the rules and he should knew he gets DQ for this (ofc the rule itself is stupid, sop lets not talk about that, leta has to know its important to make sure he writes "ppp" instead of "pp")
3. Like i said before, even if he noticed that he typed just "pp" then he still would send it because the reaction time is not 0.1 secs (the time he needs to press the enter button after his last p)
On April 29 2009 00:42 Zozma wrote:
I really don't understand what you're trying to say. It's not like the fact that he didn't need to see to type changes anything.
Well, what most people are saying is that Leta thought he typed "ppp" and since he couldn't see his monitor there was no way for him to know that one of the "p"s didn't go through.
On April 29 2009 00:38 MasterReY wrote:
Ok guys, i have to write a comment on this one now after i saw all this dumb comments in this thread and in the LR:
"you can't know what ur typing when you don't see the monitor" ????
ARE YOU SERIOUS????
Sorry, i don't want to insult you, but such comments speak of a lack of intelligence.
since when people type with a MONITOR???? You type with a KEYBOARD and ur FINGERS. Nothing else. 95% of the people don't even need EYES to type! They press the buttons on the KEYBOARD with their FINGERS. Even the 5% rest of the people don't need a MONITOR either because they use the EYES to see how often they press which buttons. The most "unskilled" writers can stare at their KEYBOARD and COUNT how often they press a button. still no MONITOR needed at all.
To the people who say "spellcheck": .....omg. you know the average reaction time of a human is about 1 second? So do you really think leta types ONE LETTER PER SECOND????
Ofc you type faster than that and you cannot spellcheck every letter before you press the next button, which includes the ENTER BUTTON ! It's almost not possible to stop pressing the enter button when you realize you have pressed one "p" too much. The MONITOR DOESNT MATTER AT ALL !!!!! Thats why you often see "i go to shcool" "*school". Because the message is already sent when you realize you fucked up a word, if its the last word in a sentence. And in Leta's case it even was the last LETTER of his message !
Also i've read:
....DUDE, WHY ARE YOU LYING????? KeSPA DIDN't DQ THE WHOLE TEAM !!!!!! JUST ONE PLAYER !!!
I hate it SO MUCH when people fucking LIE and state WRONG INFO or stupid comments which all don't matter just to exaggerate a situation. Please stop that.....
Also i just read:
This again fucks up all this stupid monitor comments, BUT don't even think about this point now. The reasons i mentioned above are 100% enough to clarify, why this monitor comments are stupid and useless.
So i don't expect much constructive replies to this but IF you want to reply, DO NOT mention this last point like "oh ok it wasn't clear the monitor was just flickering, so thats why i posted that" because thats not the reason i posted this.
Uh... hey there.Ok guys, i have to write a comment on this one now after i saw all this dumb comments in this thread and in the LR:
"you can't know what ur typing when you don't see the monitor" ????
ARE YOU SERIOUS????
Sorry, i don't want to insult you, but such comments speak of a lack of intelligence.
since when people type with a MONITOR???? You type with a KEYBOARD and ur FINGERS. Nothing else. 95% of the people don't even need EYES to type! They press the buttons on the KEYBOARD with their FINGERS. Even the 5% rest of the people don't need a MONITOR either because they use the EYES to see how often they press which buttons. The most "unskilled" writers can stare at their KEYBOARD and COUNT how often they press a button. still no MONITOR needed at all.
To the people who say "spellcheck": .....omg. you know the average reaction time of a human is about 1 second? So do you really think leta types ONE LETTER PER SECOND????
Ofc you type faster than that and you cannot spellcheck every letter before you press the next button, which includes the ENTER BUTTON ! It's almost not possible to stop pressing the enter button when you realize you have pressed one "p" too much. The MONITOR DOESNT MATTER AT ALL !!!!! Thats why you often see "i go to shcool" "*school". Because the message is already sent when you realize you fucked up a word, if its the last word in a sentence. And in Leta's case it even was the last LETTER of his message !
Also i've read:
To think I use to think hockey refs made bad calls
At least they don't disqualify a team for asking for a timeout improperly
I don't understand these kespa rules they seem to only allow referees to get some screen time. Are dq's sexy in Korea?
At least they don't disqualify a team for asking for a timeout improperly
I don't understand these kespa rules they seem to only allow referees to get some screen time. Are dq's sexy in Korea?
....DUDE, WHY ARE YOU LYING????? KeSPA DIDN't DQ THE WHOLE TEAM !!!!!! JUST ONE PLAYER !!!
I hate it SO MUCH when people fucking LIE and state WRONG INFO or stupid comments which all don't matter just to exaggerate a situation. Please stop that.....
Also i just read:
On April 28 2009 21:50 Carnac wrote:
Assuming the translation is accurate they just say it wasn't displaying visuals clearly and not that he wasn't able to see anything, so it must have been blurry or flickering or w/e. He must still have seen what he typed. I'm not saying it isn't stupid to DQ him, but it's still important to note.
Assuming the translation is accurate they just say it wasn't displaying visuals clearly and not that he wasn't able to see anything, so it must have been blurry or flickering or w/e. He must still have seen what he typed. I'm not saying it isn't stupid to DQ him, but it's still important to note.
This again fucks up all this stupid monitor comments, BUT don't even think about this point now. The reasons i mentioned above are 100% enough to clarify, why this monitor comments are stupid and useless.
So i don't expect much constructive replies to this but IF you want to reply, DO NOT mention this last point like "oh ok it wasn't clear the monitor was just flickering, so thats why i posted that" because thats not the reason i posted this.
I really don't understand what you're trying to say. It's not like the fact that he didn't need to see to type changes anything.
Well, what most people are saying is that Leta thought he typed "ppp" and since he couldn't see his monitor there was no way for him to know that one of the "p"s didn't go through.
1. He can know he posted 2. But ok lets assume he didn't
2. if he's unsure he can still backspace and type "ppp" again. and yes he should take the effort and backspace if he's unsure, because its clearly stated in the rules and he should knew he gets DQ for this (ofc the rule itself is stupid, sop lets not talk about that, leta has to know its important to make sure he writes "ppp" instead of "pp")
3. Like i said before, even if he noticed that he typed just "pp" then he still would send it because the reaction time is not 0.1 secs (the time he needs to press the enter button after his last p)
Dude, you gotta realize that the game IS STILL GOING ON because after the issue is resolved, the game will resume where it stopped. Anyone who knows anything about SC will know that you cannot just sit there doing nothing for 20 seconds and not suffer massive advantage. Even 5 seconds will cost you. Leta doesn't have the luxury of just sitting there and type "P"'s all day.
Your just saying that he has no time to type ONE letter more because his opponents gets an advantage because he can't play in that 0.1 sec?
You're missing the point, smart guy. Leta did not PURPOSELY choose to disobey the rules, but in the heat of the moment, especially with a malfunctioning screen, he HAD to rush to get the game paused and therefore cannot be bothered to double-check.
What you're asking Leta is to take time to PROOFREAD what he wrote several times on a flickering screen, which obviously takes more time than 0.1s
im happy you totally confirmed my point.
The whole reason for my post was to say that comments like "monitor was broken he couldn't check what he was typing" are stupid.
you just said he had no time to check in the heat of the moment. So monitor not needed. correct?
Obviously, your ability to judge whether you typed something correctly would be further impaired if you could not even see clearly what you're typing.
However, I am also saying that even if the screen was working perfectly, it's still a dumb rule to uphold because under the pressure of a match, it's unreasonable to ask players to divert their attention from the game to concentrate on HOW TO PAUSE THE GAME properly.
Yes of course. i have the same opinion.
Rule is stupid and kespa shouldnt DQ leta. I'm just posting against people who try to make kespas decision worse by saying "omg kespa is stupid because he didn't even saw what he was typing.
