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[SPOILERS] Leta and KeSPA controversy - Page 6
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On April 28 2009 23:46 niteReloaded wrote: As stupid as this is, it had to happen sooner or later. If this DIDN'T happen, next thing you know, someone types "p". Game gets paused. Next: "p plz" -> "game paused" Next: "p sexsexpussy hair pause kk thx" The more exceptions you make, the less credible you become. Are you really saying that if they allow pp instead of ppp, they'll also have to allow p sexsexpussy hair pause kk thx? Because that would be a really stupid thing to say. | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
"you can't know what ur typing when you don't see the monitor" ???? ARE YOU SERIOUS???? Sorry, i don't want to insult you, but such comments speak of a lack of intelligence. since when people type with a MONITOR???? You type with a KEYBOARD and ur FINGERS. Nothing else. 95% of the people don't even need EYES to type! They press the buttons on the KEYBOARD with their FINGERS. Even the 5% rest of the people don't need a MONITOR either because they use the EYES to see how often they press which buttons. The most "unskilled" writers can stare at their KEYBOARD and COUNT how often they press a button. still no MONITOR needed at all. To the people who say "spellcheck": .....omg. you know the average reaction time of a human is about 1 second? So do you really think leta types ONE LETTER PER SECOND???? Ofc you type faster than that and you cannot spellcheck every letter before you press the next button, which includes the ENTER BUTTON ! It's almost not possible to stop pressing the enter button when you realize you have pressed one "p" too much. The MONITOR DOESNT MATTER AT ALL !!!!! Thats why you often see "i go to shcool" "*school". Because the message is already sent when you realize you fucked up a word, if its the last word in a sentence. And in Leta's case it even was the last LETTER of his message ! Also i've read: To think I use to think hockey refs made bad calls At least they don't disqualify a team for asking for a timeout improperly I don't understand these kespa rules they seem to only allow referees to get some screen time. Are dq's sexy in Korea? ....DUDE, WHY ARE YOU LYING????? KeSPA DIDN't DQ THE WHOLE TEAM !!!!!! JUST ONE PLAYER !!! I hate it SO MUCH when people fucking LIE and state WRONG INFO or stupid comments which all don't matter just to exaggerate a situation. Please stop that..... Also i just read: On April 28 2009 21:50 Carnac wrote: Assuming the translation is accurate they just say it wasn't displaying visuals clearly and not that he wasn't able to see anything, so it must have been blurry or flickering or w/e. He must still have seen what he typed. I'm not saying it isn't stupid to DQ him, but it's still important to note. This again fucks up all this stupid monitor comments, BUT don't even think about this point now. The reasons i mentioned above are 100% enough to clarify, why this monitor comments are stupid and useless. So i don't expect much constructive replies to this but IF you want to reply, DO NOT mention this last point like "oh ok it wasn't clear the monitor was just flickering, so thats why i posted that" because thats not the reason i posted this. | ||
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Spanxxx
United States408 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:38 MasterReY wrote: Uh... hey there.Ok guys, i have to write a comment on this one now after i saw all this dumb comments in this thread and in the LR: "you can't know what ur typing when you don't see the monitor" ???? ARE YOU SERIOUS???? Sorry, i don't want to insult you, but such comments speak of a lack of intelligence. since when people type with a MONITOR???? You type with a KEYBOARD and ur FINGERS. Nothing else. 95% of the people don't even need EYES to type! They press the buttons on the KEYBOARD with their FINGERS. Even the 5% rest of the people don't need a MONITOR either because they use the EYES to see how often they press which buttons. The most "unskilled" writers can stare at their KEYBOARD and COUNT how often they press a button. still no MONITOR needed at all. To the people who say "spellcheck": .....omg. you know the average reaction time of a human is about 1 second? So do you really think leta types ONE LETTER PER SECOND???? Ofc you type faster than that and you cannot spellcheck every letter before you press the next button, which includes the ENTER BUTTON ! It's almost not possible to stop pressing the enter button when you realize you have pressed one "p" too much. The MONITOR DOESNT MATTER AT ALL !!!!! Thats why you often see "i go to shcool" "*school". Because the message is already sent when you realize you fucked up a word, if its the last word in a sentence. And in Leta's case it even was the last LETTER of his message ! Also i've read: ....DUDE, WHY ARE YOU LYING????? KeSPA DIDN't DQ THE WHOLE TEAM !!!!!! JUST ONE PLAYER !!! I hate it SO MUCH when people fucking LIE and state WRONG INFO or stupid comments which all don't matter just to exaggerate a situation. Please stop that..... Also i just read: This again fucks up all this stupid monitor comments, BUT don't even think about this point now. The reasons i mentioned above are 100% enough to clarify, why this monitor comments are stupid and useless. So i don't expect much constructive replies to this but IF you want to reply, DO NOT mention this last point like "oh ok it wasn't clear the monitor was just flickering, so thats why i posted that" because thats not the reason i posted this. I really don't understand what you're trying to say. It's not like the fact that he didn't need to see to type changes anything. Well, what most people are saying is that Leta thought he typed "ppp" and since he couldn't see his monitor there was no way for him to know that one of the "p"s didn't go through. | ||
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koreasilver
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:11 konadora wrote: Then they should give then a white flag to use for admitting defeat instead of typing out too  best two ideas so far | ||
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Evs
Philippines330 Posts
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gumbum8
United States721 Posts
1. stupid fucking rules 2. people who flame people who flame people who enforce stupid fucking rules 3. threads like this getting 6 pages of comments, full of # 2 | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4685 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:38 MasterReY wrote: Ok guys, i have to write a comment on this one now after i saw all this dumb comments in this thread and in the LR: "you can't know what ur typing when you don't see the monitor" ???? ARE YOU SERIOUS???? Sorry, i don't want to insult you, but such comments speak of a lack of intelligence. since when people type with a MONITOR???? You type with a KEYBOARD and ur FINGERS. Nothing else. 95% of the people don't even need EYES to type! They press the buttons on the KEYBOARD with their FINGERS. Even the 5% rest of the people don't need a MONITOR either because they use the EYES to see how often they press which buttons. The most "unskilled" writers can stare at their KEYBOARD and COUNT how often they press a button. still no MONITOR needed at all. To the people who say "spellcheck": .....omg. you know the average reaction time of a human is about 1 second? So do you really think leta types ONE LETTER PER SECOND???? Ofc you type faster than that and you cannot spellcheck every letter before you press the next button, which includes the ENTER BUTTON ! It's almost not possible to stop pressing the enter button when you realize you have pressed one "p" too much. The MONITOR DOESNT MATTER AT ALL !!!!! Thats why you often see "i go to shcool" "*school". Because the message is already sent when you realize you fucked up a word, if its the last word in a sentence. And in Leta's case it even was the last LETTER of his message ! Also i've read: ....DUDE, WHY ARE YOU LYING????? KeSPA DIDN't DQ THE WHOLE TEAM !!!!!! JUST ONE PLAYER !!! I hate it SO MUCH when people fucking LIE and state WRONG INFO or stupid comments which all don't matter just to exaggerate a situation. Please stop that..... Also i just read: This again fucks up all this stupid monitor comments, BUT don't even think about this point now. The reasons i mentioned above are 100% enough to clarify, why this monitor comments are stupid and useless. So i don't expect much constructive replies to this but IF you want to reply, DO NOT mention this last point like "oh ok it wasn't clear the monitor was just flickering, so thats why i posted that" because thats not the reason i posted this. Dear MasterRey, It has become apparent that you are an anti-fan boy. This coupled with your random as hell caps lock activations have brought the conclusion of the general consensus to the fact that you are an idiot. Sincerely, hasuprotoss PS: You aren't even addressing the real issue behind whether hitting "pp" is acceptable. Instead you are going off on some stupid random tangent. | ||
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
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Ozarugold
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:42 Zozma wrote: Uh... hey there. I really don't understand what you're trying to say. It's not like the fact that he didn't need to see to type changes anything. Well, what most people are saying is that Leta thought he typed "ppp" and since he couldn't see his monitor there was no way for him to know that one of the "p"s didn't go through. 1. He can know he posted 2. But ok lets assume he didn't 2. if he's unsure he can still backspace and type "ppp" again. and yes he should take the effort and backspace if he's unsure, because its clearly stated in the rules and he should knew he gets DQ for this (ofc the rule itself is stupid, sop lets not talk about that, leta has to know its important to make sure he writes "ppp" instead of "pp") 3. Like i said before, even if he noticed that he typed just "pp" then he still would send it because the reaction time is not 0.1 secs (the time he needs to press the enter button after his last p) | ||
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epjx31
United Kingdom324 Posts
1st- Good for tv, because it's funny 2nd- Clear indication for pausing the game 3rd- Screw KESPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Rules are rules only goes so far when it very well could've decided the fate of the PL round which could, conceivably, decide even more in the future, all because Leta forgot a p? Does Kespa understand how *fast* these guys punch in a couple keys and how impossible it is to respond to only hitting p twice and then hitting enter? (anyone with even nominal typing speed does that in a split second) Much less if it was a huge problem with his visuals and he was literally falling way behind in the game because he couldn't tell what he was doing. Any backlash Kespa gets from this is deserved. It's a poor decision from an organization that barely has to decide anything on a match to match basis as it is. The only times they do, they do so horribly. Things like this and arbitrarily discouraging other tournaments is the kind of stuff that harms esports in the long run. | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:53 hasuprotoss wrote: Dear MasterRey, It has become apparent that you are an anti-fan boy. This coupled with your random as hell caps lock activations have brought the conclusion of the general consensus to the fact that you are an idiot. Sincerely, hasuprotoss PS: You aren't even addressing the real issue behind whether hitting "pp" is acceptable. Instead you are going off on some stupid random tangent. I'm totally not an anti-fanboy. Leta is actually really one of my favorite players. believe it or not. Ofc this decision is totally stupid, and i know the issue is that they should make an exception because it basically means the same as "ppp" and can't be confused with another msg. Don't assume things that make me stupid please. I posted that because there are so many stupid comments and the issue is rather obvious here and stated many times before in the thread(without stupid lies with it) so i didn't need to repeat that i think. My post only addresses to the wrong comments in this thread. And don't say i derail the thread because of that or w/e because the OP's issue is discussed and "solved" already like i said. My caps are on the important words in my post like "monitor" and "keyboard" so that they stand out more to clarify my msg. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:58 MasterReY wrote: 1. He can know he posted 2. But ok lets assume he didn't 2. if he's unsure he can still backspace and type "ppp" again. and yes he should take the effort and backspace if he's unsure, because its clearly stated in the rules and he should knew he gets DQ for this (ofc the rule itself is stupid, sop lets not talk about that, leta has to know its important to make sure he writes "ppp" instead of "pp") 3. Like i said before, even if he noticed that he typed just "pp" then he still would send it because the reaction time is not 0.1 secs (the time he needs to press the enter button after his last p) Dude, you gotta realize that the game IS STILL GOING ON because after the issue is resolved, the game will resume where it stopped. Anyone who knows anything about SC will know that you cannot just sit there doing nothing for 20 seconds and not suffer massive advantage. Even 5 seconds will cost you. Leta doesn't have the luxury of just sitting there and type "P"'s all day. In that kind of situation, the goal is to get the game paused as soon as possible because otherwise, you're fucked even if they don't DQ you. I can understand enforcing the GG rule strictly in that case because that would be enforcing good sportsmanship and the match is decided already. Obviously, the same cannot be said about PP, which must be typed in the middle of a heated match. | ||
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peja_
Serbia15 Posts
thanks | ||
SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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