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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 20:43:55
February 08 2010 16:44 GMT
#601
On February 08 2010 03:51 Toadesstern wrote:
I never ever had problems before. Everything was fine for about a year.
Now, somehow my FMLE(=Flash Media Live Encoder 3) is freaking out.
As a lot of people are streaming, maybe I'll find help here

Everytime I open FMLE my PC gets REAL slow, even when not activated (wtf?) while for the last year everything was fine.

I got a amd dual core running on 2,7 ghz instead of 2,2, also being stable for a year now, so it shouldn't be a problem i guess, tried running on 2,2 today without improvements.
About my hardware set-up: everything quite worked out of the box, no core assigning and everything was fine. Since my PC now somehow gets real slow I tried that but it keeped lagging and beeing slow as hell, no matter what process I assigned to what core, no matter what combination and so on.

Having Broodwar running on core #0 and Camtasia running on core #1 with screencapture (without FMLE) works perfectly, but as soon as I add FMLE it's freaking out.

As mentioned, the funny thing about this whole story is, my PC's still freaking out even when I only open FMLE without actually running it (which causes about 2-3% cpu usage/dedication , don't know whats the english word :p )

So a Setup like that:
-Running Broodwar
-Camtasia minimized, NOT running
-FMLE minimized, NOT running
some how makes my PC REAL slow, don't know why and I've tested everything, of course if I turn both programs on, nothing changes
And yes again: A few weeks ago everything was fine, I didn't change a thing (neither on fmle nor on camtasia) but somehow it's just not working

So does anyone know why it's not working as it's supposed to? Or at least could tell me an alternative to FMLE, just to test if it's the program itself or something I screwed up

Edit: And I got the broodwar ingame cpu option, whichs name I don't remember enabled.
Edit2: On windowmode I don't got that slow pc But playing on windowmode suxx

On February 09 2010 01:03 Toadesstern wrote:
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that's the cpu usage while recording.

First core running starcraft (only) all the time, second core running FMLE all the time and camtasia live output from time to time (when it's about 70%, camtasia was recording, when it's on 5% camtasia was not)

So somehow it shouldn't be a Problem with my cpu I gues, but why is everything slowing down if it's not the cpu?


got the right thread now, right?

To sum it up:
2x 2,7GHZ cpu, amd x64 dualcore
ATI Hd 4800 graka
Windows XP Pro (or Ubuntu, but I'm running broodwar on windows)

It's not fmle as I thought, it's just cause as soon I open it camtasia actually records with the right resolution, which it doesn't as long fmle isn't opened. So I'm pretty sure it's about camtasia and right now I tried cam 3.02, 4.02, 5.02 and 6.02 (which was quite hard to get live output working), everytime the same problem
Tested both, a 24" monitor and a 17", no changes so I'm also pretty sure it's not about scretching the screen to 1920x1200.

Casting with Windowmode works just fine. For test purposes I just ran a windowed replay on h264 loseless convertion, having 50fps. My cpu was at 30% ....
As soon as I enter fullmode, my fps is caped at 6,5 FPS, core #0 is at 10%, core #1 at 100% (core #0 broodwar, core #1 camtasiarecorder). If I don't assign cores both are about 60%, while having 6,5 FPS and broodwar lagging as shit no matter what codec I'm using (h264 / techsmith codec / uncompressed (!) )
And yeah, I got the cpu-option enabled ingame

Reading the total thread again right now, I found a few people who got the same problem, but haven't found an answer to that prob
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 02:40:30
February 09 2010 01:09 GMT
#602
What do we use for the FMS url now, since it is no longer mogulus? I tired copying ans pasting the livestream link on my page with the rmtp stuff preceeding it but that didn't work. I just keep getting a failure to connect to primary server error.

Edit: Hmm, okay that parts seems to be working now, however when I go into my livestream studio I don't see anything over on the right where it says live. I do, however, see stuff in the FME. Interestingly I can hear the audio (there is a significant amount if interference like screeching though) but the video display is completely black
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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
February 09 2010 02:03 GMT
#603
Try again, going over what is meant to go where. The modified url that is posted in the OP works for everyone else.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
February 09 2010 18:33 GMT
#604
On February 09 2010 10:09 L_Master wrote:
What do we use for the FMS url now, since it is no longer mogulus? I tired copying ans pasting the livestream link on my page with the rmtp stuff preceeding it but that didn't work. I just keep getting a failure to connect to primary server error.

Edit: Hmm, okay that parts seems to be working now, however when I go into my livestream studio I don't see anything over on the right where it says live. I do, however, see stuff in the FME. Interestingly I can hear the audio (there is a significant amount if interference like screeching though) but the video display is completely black

the interference is probably an echo of you looping your stereo mix by listening to your own stream while streaming your audio

You see a video feed in FMLE, but none in your studio, despite you hearing your own audio in your studio? well, that's weird. Maybe your connection is too slow and you're dropping like an insane amount of frames? dunno
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 21:50:00
February 09 2010 19:08 GMT
#605
Where would I need to look to see if I'm dropping a significant number of frames?

Also, don't know if it makes a difference but If I switch the camera to my labtop webcam I do see the webcam feed in my studio.

Edit: Wow, I feel like such an idiot, the only problem was that I didn't use the exact capitalization of my livestream name in the FME FMS Url section. It now shows up in my studion on livestream.com/
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Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 19:15:09
February 09 2010 19:13 GMT
#606
On February 10 2010 04:08 L_Master wrote:
Where would I need to look to see if I'm dropping a significant number of frames?

Also, don't know if it makes a difference but If I switch the camera to my labtop webcam I do see the webcam feed in my studio.

When you're recording live, take a look at the Encoding log to see if Output drops is significantly high. If you're recording at 10 fps, and you're dropping 10 frames per second, then nothing's ever gonna show.

But this is almost never the case.

Another reason this might be happening is cause your CPU usage is too high. If your CPU usage hits 100%, then it'll automatically drop frames like mad.

Check to see your Camtasia Recorder is actually recording. If you can hear audio, but not see video, it usually means that you're not recording anything on screen.
Ackteon
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 22:42:53
February 09 2010 22:40 GMT
#607
I tried a search through the thread to see if anyone had any FPS problems, but I wasn't quite sure if this problem has been addressed yet..

So far I have a stream set up with Camtasia 5.0.2 and FMLE3 and it works and all, but I'm having terrible FPS.
Whenever I'm using Live Output in Camtasia, it stays around 6-7FPS, which makes the stream choppy on LiveStream.

Thing is, my BW doesn't lag a bit at all, and neither does my system..

Anyone have any tips?
I've tried using RaptorX's setup with the x264 codec on the first page, RaGe's setup on the first page, and Archaic's setup here.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 10 2010 00:58 GMT
#608
L_Master: Perhaps you're not sending any video? Or maybe your capture driver is busted. First try to just record stuff with Camtasia, then if that still doesn't work, reinstall Camtasia.

Ackteon: You're not devoting enough system resources to Camtasia. Set its priority higher.
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Ackteon
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10 Posts
February 10 2010 23:42 GMT
#609
I've tried setting the priority for Camtasia to High, but then my BW starts to lag a bit.
Do you think my system can't handle it..?
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 11 2010 00:49 GMT
#610
On February 11 2010 08:42 Ackteon wrote:
I've tried setting the priority for Camtasia to High, but then my BW starts to lag a bit.
Do you think my system can't handle it..?

Post your computer statistics.
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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
February 11 2010 02:17 GMT
#611
Have people managed to get this working on windows 7?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Ackteon
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10 Posts
February 11 2010 02:30 GMT
#612
@Red_Storm: I'm running Windows 7.

@Mystlord:
2.1GHz Dual-core x86
Windows 7
Um...not sure about the video card though o__o

Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 02:48:29
February 11 2010 02:45 GMT
#613
Okay I have a problem that camtasia is only capturing at 320x280 (the live capture settings are at 640x480 still...) and no input size is coming through to FMLE which means it wont stream. I figured that it was just me running windows 7 but im glad its not!

Edit: NVM
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Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
February 11 2010 02:47 GMT
#614
I dont know if this is posted yet, but if you have a free account you need to put your bit rate to 500, but your bit rate is the video bit rate + audio bit rate so i use 460 for video bit rate and 40 for audio bit rate. This way the FMLE can connect, if not you get constantly dropped, i think this should be posted on the OP because it gave me a lot of trouble
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JadeFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1225 Posts
February 11 2010 08:09 GMT
#615
On February 09 2010 10:09 L_Master wrote:
What do we use for the FMS url now, since it is no longer mogulus? I tired copying ans pasting the livestream link on my page with the rmtp stuff preceeding it but that didn't work. I just keep getting a failure to connect to primary server error.

Edit: Hmm, okay that parts seems to be working now, however when I go into my livestream studio I don't see anything over on the right where it says live. I do, however, see stuff in the FME. Interestingly I can hear the audio (there is a significant amount if interference like screeching though) but the video display is completely black

What is the modified URL now? I don't see it in the OP sorry.
Ackteon
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10 Posts
February 11 2010 22:20 GMT
#616
rtmp://publish.livestream.com/mogulus/[your_channel]/username=[your_username]/password=[your_password]/isAutoLive=true
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 12 2010 17:27 GMT
#617
i have a problem with my stream...

there's this random white box in the upper right-hand corner, and this big "welcome to xeris" thing taking up the bottom part of the stream screen... does anbody have any clue how to get rid of these things? I've been looking at my stream studio but can't find an way to do it.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
February 12 2010 22:53 GMT
#618
Check the overlay options in livestudio.
Just hide everything in there.
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Ackteon
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10 Posts
February 12 2010 23:08 GMT
#619
Basically, I've tried running live output on Camtasia without FMLE on and it records 28-30FPS just fine. Is there any way to decrease the amt of system resources that FMLE eats up?
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 12 2010 23:14 GMT
#620
On February 13 2010 08:08 Ackteon wrote:
Basically, I've tried running live output on Camtasia without FMLE on and it records 28-30FPS just fine. Is there any way to decrease the amt of system resources that FMLE eats up?

You don't want to decrease the amount of system resources that FMLE uses. That'll lead to dropped frames and your stream will look super choppy. On the same note, you'll need a good processor to run 28-30 FPS + Starcraft + FMLE.

On February 13 2010 02:27 Xeris wrote:
i have a problem with my stream...

there's this random white box in the upper right-hand corner, and this big "welcome to xeris" thing taking up the bottom part of the stream screen... does anbody have any clue how to get rid of these things? I've been looking at my stream studio but can't find an way to do it.

Under Studio, Broadcast Live -> Lower right hand corner of the screen. Those 5 tabs down there control what goes onto your stream.
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