HAHAHAHAHAHA I want to see that.

Enjoy the game the way they do, and try and get away with the most bullshit shit ever.... Teach him to cannon rush or 4pool ... Very basic cheesey stuff. Make sure that you always live longer

.... he'll eventually realize your better and if he gets curious will start asking questions on there own. If they aren't purposefully trying to learn, a competive approach to learning won't always be the best I've noticed.

Play BGH ffas they are the most fun game ever.

Period.

CDRdude

United States5625 Posts

September 05 2008 22:42 GMT

#48

On September 05 2008 09:22 CharlieMurphy wrote:
hmm, those handicap ideas sound fun. Got any more weird ones I can try?

EDIT- are there any UMS melee maps that have handicaps and fun shit like this? That would be cool.

Lastshadow maps, go! Seriously, it'd make games more even, but then your friend wouldn't be able to learn build order timings very well.

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

September 05 2008 22:51 GMT

#49

Most noobs are noobs for a reason. They just play for fun. They dont care about learning to play the 'proper' way. They have zero interest in learning a solid build. Dont try teaching him like others have suggested, that will just frustrate you in the end. Just do joke builds or use handicaps or whatever. Just have fun and dont worry about competitive play. If the person actually wants to get good then they will look up strategy guides and find websites like TL and he will ask you for help. If the person does none of those things then dont try teaching them. The odd hint or pointer here or there is ok, but dont expect them to improve a lot. Ive only had one friend ever that was decent at starcraft and that was many many years ago. I tried ot get him back into the game, but he figured it would be to much work since everyone is really good now. Others I have played with just suck. I had to explain to one guy that building two bunkers at the top of his ramp in pvt was completely unnecessary. Most people have no idea how to play this game and just want to mass an army and blow shit up and of course watch it while it happens and go 'oh cool that was awesome'.

Jonoman92

United States9107 Posts

September 05 2008 22:52 GMT

#50

On September 05 2008 09:55 CharlieMurphy wrote:
lol Jonoman, you sure he wasn't being sarcastic? You can build up 200 in a month, easy.

He was serious. I could kind of tell from the way the rest of our bw discussion went. He said he had never liked laddering since it didn't allow you to play on "fastest" speed setting which means he has no clue about pgt, wgt, iccup and that he hasn't played since waaayyyy long ago when it was the integrated ladder and you had to play it on slower than fastest settings.

CapO

United States1615 Posts

September 05 2008 23:05 GMT

#51

i hate those players who give up after losing. keep playing and learn!!! goddamn you n00bs!

Folca

2235 Posts

September 05 2008 23:09 GMT

#52

I hate fucking assholes who think they're the shit because they keep owning you..
Not starcraft BTW, Counter-Strike

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

September 06 2008 01:36 GMT

#53

On September 05 2008 09:06 CharlieMurphy wrote:
The funny thing too is that I'll do a standard build and try and attack one of the opponents with him and we can't take them down, I end up being fucked. He has static de all over so they counter me instead and I lose and he goes "You fucking suck" every game.

So should I just play defense mode and just watch him/help him.

Oh and he doesn't wanna play 1v1 or not be on my team if we play together. So, yea.

If he seriously thinks that you suck rather than him, start playing defensively as fuck and just watch as he dies until he realizes how much he sucks.

Alternate

United States2 Posts

September 14 2008 05:23 GMT

#54

This is what I've noticed from playing with my friends who aren't too interested in taking the time to learn the game, despite my best efforts to push them in the right direction.

To determine whether or not somebody can be serious about playing is whether or not they would play the game without you. In other words, are they only playing because you asked them if they wanted to go online, or would they actually go online and try to find a game by themselves? If the answer is the previous, then they probably won't get too much into the game unless they get really into playing 1v1 against you.

I think the best way to get them interested in "1v1 serious playing" is to warm them up to it. Start off with 2v1 games against a comp, where you just sort of support them. You don't need to be too nit picky with their strategy, just let them have fun. If this becomes too easy, you can move onto 2 computers.

But of course, playing computers is only so much fun..eventually they'll ask you to make a 2v2 game for people to join. Blood bath is probably the best for this. You don't need to worry too much about timing expos and other intricacies of strategy. You'll probably lose a lot of these. I've found that the best way to win them is to try to kill one of the other players early, if possible. Develop a strategy with your friend where you both rush the player who's worse off, possibly with cheese. Even if you lose, your friend will probably be ecstatic about cheese rushing + killing at least one of them.

Every now and then, play them 1v1 with some of the creative handicaps that people have already mentioned. Hopefully, he'll (or if you're REALLY lucky, she'll) get interested enough that he wants to look up strategies or something to that extent to get better.

The most important thing to remember is that you can't force someone to become serious about something. Some people just have other things that they would rather focus on, and that's completely understandable. So if they just like to goof around, let them, but nudge them towards the notion of playing to win, and hope that eventually they see the light. (I used to have two friends who, whenever I played with, would insist that we make 2v2 games on fastest and then back stab the person who joins. Hilarious at the time, but looking back on it, incredibly cruel. =D)

Ancestral

United States3230 Posts

September 14 2008 05:37 GMT

#55

I will reiterate what I think is best: use an editor, choose a race to play other than what he does, and make the cost / build times for your race high enough that the game is somewhat even.

All of these are good ideas, but I think this is easiest for you since you can just play normally albeit more slowly.

Not_Computer

Canada2277 Posts

September 14 2008 06:08 GMT

#56

great way to practice your 1v3's!

just came out of two 1v2's and a 1v3 earlier

Kau

Canada3500 Posts

September 14 2008 06:49 GMT

#57

If you're on a laptop you can do one of the following:
a) Two hands, touchpad + keyboard.
b) Two hands, touchpad only.
c) One hand, touchpad + keyboard.
d) One hand, touchpad only.