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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 18:13:03
February 09 2009 18:11 GMT
#321
Korean is the hardest race to play.

srsly imo:

Hardest Mechanics: Terran
Hardest Base Management: Zerg
Hardest to Avoid Being Flamed for Playing: Protoss
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Kleander
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States334 Posts
February 09 2009 18:14 GMT
#322
nothing wrong with protoss, its just as difficult to play, otherwise protoss would be dominating everywhere, and competitions would be just pvp and it would be called the "golden age of protoss" or some crap, and that would NEVER happen.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. 지지 Guess who's learning Korean
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
February 09 2009 18:17 GMT
#323
On February 10 2009 03:14 Kleander wrote:
nothing wrong with protoss, its just as difficult to play, otherwise protoss would be dominating everywhere, and competitions would be just pvp and it would be called the "golden age of protoss" or some crap, and that would NEVER happen.

Protoss isn't dominating as much as they used to.

Look at current MSL and OSL brackets.

Protoss is still easiest to play but that doesn't mean they're imba. Protoss can still lose.
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wwooaa
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Croatia179 Posts
April 02 2009 17:19 GMT
#324
Protoss is just like every other race, there isnt an EASY button that Mondy uses, you have to play hard to get something, just look at the recent MSL Qualifiers, only 2 Tosses out of 25 players. You kidding me ?
wWoOaA)Is( /// kasda.cry...Ninjas can't catch you if you are on FIRE !
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
April 02 2009 18:19 GMT
#325
On February 10 2009 03:17 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2009 03:14 Kleander wrote:
nothing wrong with protoss, its just as difficult to play, otherwise protoss would be dominating everywhere, and competitions would be just pvp and it would be called the "golden age of protoss" or some crap, and that would NEVER happen.

Protoss isn't dominating as much as they used to.

Look at current MSL and OSL brackets.

Protoss is still easiest to play but that doesn't mean they're imba. Protoss can still lose.

how are they easy to play if the protoss players aren't winning?

Yes they are maybe easier to pick up, and they are maybe "simpler" but in reality, they all are just as hard.

The game is as hard as your opponent makes it to be
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
April 02 2009 19:12 GMT
#326
Personally I find Z to be the hardest. The economy is very different from T and P, and is far harder to get a hang of since you have to balance drones with army units. Generally they are quite hard to micro as well, since the units are very weak and speed differs alot between the units.

T and P is the same to me. T have more units if they're going bio, but that doesn't make them any harder to play imo. With P you have to be more careful with microing individual units like reavers and templars, which doesn't feel as necessary with T. Only problem I have with T is sometimes mixing up the O and I keys, making me miss siege and lay mines.
1000 at least.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 02 2009 20:21 GMT
#327
Protoss has the simplest and most straightforward mechanics out of the three races...the macro is straightforward, as is the micro. That's why everyone pisses on them for being the easiest; which at the lowest levels is true, but saying that ease pervades all the way to the top levels totally denies the abilities of the likes of Bisu and Jangbi and Stork and all of them.
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Ninja4ever.
Profile Joined March 2008
France231 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-02 20:29:35
April 02 2009 20:27 GMT
#328
I'd say it's terran, because the mechanics are much harder to get.
then again, everyone has nearly perfect mechanics at pro level, so it doesn't matter any more. But at lower level it sure has an impact.
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow, learn as if you were to live for ever."
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 02 2009 20:34 GMT
#329
I have to say this is a 4chan quality thread

an interesting discussion question would probably be more specific, like how is midgame Terran micromanagement comperable to Zerg and Protoss?" Just because the UBB gods granted you the right to make a poll doesn't mean you always have to use it.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
April 03 2009 00:22 GMT
#330
T at all levels of play,

On certain maps or in certain style clashes Z

never protoss..
MONSTEr2
Profile Joined February 2009
United States43 Posts
April 03 2009 01:23 GMT
#331
night elf
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
April 03 2009 01:27 GMT
#332
Intermediate (D- to C-) = Terran
Advanced (C to olympic) = Zerg
Pro = Protoss
Peace~
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 03 2009 01:27 GMT
#333
I can play protoss at a D level with 70 apm.
I can play terran at a D level with 90 apm.
I can play zerg at a D level with 120 apm.

Just because a race is easy to play doesn't mean its players will dominate necessarily.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 03 2009 01:28 GMT
#334
The amount of these 50-75apm D+ protoss players is astonishing.
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inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
April 03 2009 01:33 GMT
#335
lowest level - zerg

intermediate - terran

pro - protoss
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
April 03 2009 01:34 GMT
#336
Monkeys dont yell for Aiur.

Protoss is hard in some senses, as you must always be on the move. Or else you will end up like the Conclave
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 01:44:38
April 03 2009 01:42 GMT
#337
It fluctuates until decently high levels (b- and above).

I cant speak for protoss because i dont play it often, other than that, when i do, i find im really slow at everything, its not 'easy'.

But in zvt/tvz which i both play, i find that, around the C/C+ ranks, terran has it simpler, mechanics aside, the gameplan for terran is easier to follow, its easier to know what to do next, how to get back in the game, managing the econ is easier i mean just keep making scvs until your multitask lets you, expand soon after your first vessel push, etc.

Its easier for terran to get a BO win, for example, if you perfect an attack that comes before 10:00, you will probably breeze through any zerg in the C ranks, while a 3 hatch muta will never kill a terran your level, will not even give you a sizeable advantage unless he fucks up, timing attacks function better for terran than for zerg, and probably better too than for protoss.

Below that level, probably zerg has it a bit easier, terran hasnt got a clue about decent build orders, or simply isnt even good enough to emulate them, stuff like a good timed 3 hatch muta can really fuck him up and his multitask is probably not enough to compete, either he macroes or microes, hard for him to do something in between.

Above that level, in the blue ranks, BO advantages even out and its just about who has the better mechanics. At even higher levels, i believe terran is just about having better and better mechanics and zerg has to aim for a better game sense, even trying to outsmart him.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
April 03 2009 02:14 GMT
#338
Hardest race by far is protoss, because hotkey for probe is p which is on the other side of the keyboard away from 1.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 02:26:14
April 03 2009 02:25 GMT
#339
in my experience, Terran is the most exacting in terms of mechanics (not only do you you need strong mechanics, but you are punished severely for mistakes).

Zerg however, is difficult in my eyes primarily because it requires a lot of experience to play. Things like larvae management make it a lot less straightforward than other races.

I consider those two races to be the most difficult, but for different reasons.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 03 2009 02:25 GMT
#340
On April 03 2009 03:19 MuR)Ernu wrote:
how are they easy to play if the protoss players aren't winning?

Yes they are maybe easier to pick up, and they are maybe "simpler" but in reality, they all are just as hard.

The game is as hard as your opponent makes it to be

The thread specifies a specific skill level, at which Protoss is still relatively easy to play compared to the other races. The reason that "ease of play" doesn't factor into pro-level play is because at high levels, basic mechanics/base management are irrelevant because all players have them. At lower levels, however, a protoss player has much easier time controlling these elements.

A (over)simplification would be to say that while the 3 races have similar skill ceilings, Protoss has a much easier learning curve to reach that ceiling. Protoss players advance in ability (in the sense of being able to win games) at lower levels much faster than their Zerg and Terran counterparts.
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