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KsiretsA
Profile Joined February 2009
United States34 Posts
February 08 2009 22:48 GMT
#301
I would say Terran because the strategies you have to use against each race are more drastically different than any other race, along with all the management needed and the fact that some normal armies are almost completely dependent on 3 or so units using their special abilities.

Zerg is hard, but it has the same groundwork on all 3 matchups and the deviation is not as far spread.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
February 08 2009 22:49 GMT
#302
Depends on the matchup, the level you play at and to some extent the map.
For all intents and purposes the races are all equally difficult I would say :o

On February 09 2009 07:44 Shikyo wrote:
How can Terran be the most difficult race when it's always up to the opposing race to stop the unstoppable ball...

Because both Zerg and Protoss have the chance to outexpand and severely outmacro the Terran before the "unstoppable" ball comes in to play.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
February 08 2009 22:53 GMT
#303
Tour de France easy.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
February 09 2009 00:17 GMT
#304
On February 09 2009 07:48 KsiretsA wrote:
I would say Terran because the strategies you have to use against each race are more drastically different than any other race, along with all the management needed and the fact that some normal armies are almost completely dependent on 3 or so units using their special abilities.

Zerg is hard, but it has the same groundwork on all 3 matchups and the deviation is not as far spread.
zvp is pretty fucking different from zvz. ZVT is also way different than the other two match ups...

You know I wonder if even a quater of the people talking about xyz race has even played xyz race on a serious degree, at all?
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
KsiretsA
Profile Joined February 2009
United States34 Posts
February 09 2009 00:21 GMT
#305
On February 09 2009 09:17 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 07:48 KsiretsA wrote:
I would say Terran because the strategies you have to use against each race are more drastically different than any other race, along with all the management needed and the fact that some normal armies are almost completely dependent on 3 or so units using their special abilities.

Zerg is hard, but it has the same groundwork on all 3 matchups and the deviation is not as far spread.
zvp is pretty fucking different from zvz. ZVT is also way different than the other two match ups...

You know I wonder if even a quater of the people talking about xyz race has even played xyz race on a serious degree, at all?


You completely missed my point.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
February 09 2009 04:26 GMT
#306
On February 09 2009 09:21 KsiretsA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 09:17 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On February 09 2009 07:48 KsiretsA wrote:
I would say Terran because the strategies you have to use against each race are more drastically different than any other race, along with all the management needed and the fact that some normal armies are almost completely dependent on 3 or so units using their special abilities.

Zerg is hard, but it has the same groundwork on all 3 matchups and the deviation is not as far spread.
zvp is pretty fucking different from zvz. ZVT is also way different than the other two match ups...

You know I wonder if even a quater of the people talking about xyz race has even played xyz race on a serious degree, at all?


You completely missed my point.
No I did not.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 09 2009 04:39 GMT
#307
On February 09 2009 07:48 KsiretsA wrote:
I would say Terran because the strategies you have to use against each race are more drastically different than any other race, along with all the management needed and the fact that some normal armies are almost completely dependent on 3 or so units using their special abilities.

Zerg is hard, but it has the same groundwork on all 3 matchups and the deviation is not as far spread.

You're completely clueless.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
February 09 2009 04:40 GMT
#308
The hardest is Terran. The softest is Zerg. Protoss is somewhere in the middle with their squishy Archons and not so squishy Zealots.
this is my quote.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 09 2009 04:56 GMT
#309
On February 09 2009 13:40 Ozarugold wrote:
The hardest is Terran. The softest is Zerg. Protoss is somewhere in the middle with their squishy Archons and not so squishy Zealots.

What is the physical composition of an Archon?
Jaedong
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
February 09 2009 04:59 GMT
#310
On February 09 2009 13:56 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 13:40 Ozarugold wrote:
The hardest is Terran. The softest is Zerg. Protoss is somewhere in the middle with their squishy Archons and not so squishy Zealots.

What is the physical composition of an Archon?


They feel like cotton balls.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
February 09 2009 05:01 GMT
#311
I think that Terran is the hardest race unless they go mech vs zerg, cause that's just WAY easier than bio vs zerg, and in that case I'd have to vote for Zerg as being harder.
THE ANSWER IS 288
KsiretsA
Profile Joined February 2009
United States34 Posts
February 09 2009 05:39 GMT
#312
On February 09 2009 13:26 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 09:21 KsiretsA wrote:
On February 09 2009 09:17 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On February 09 2009 07:48 KsiretsA wrote:
I would say Terran because the strategies you have to use against each race are more drastically different than any other race, along with all the management needed and the fact that some normal armies are almost completely dependent on 3 or so units using their special abilities.

Zerg is hard, but it has the same groundwork on all 3 matchups and the deviation is not as far spread.
zvp is pretty fucking different from zvz. ZVT is also way different than the other two match ups...

You know I wonder if even a quater of the people talking about xyz race has even played xyz race on a serious degree, at all?


You completely missed my point.
No I did not.


Then why do I see you respond to an argument that says Terran is more different in the matchups than Zerg with an argument that says Zerg is different in matchups?
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 05:55:08
February 09 2009 05:55 GMT
#313
On February 09 2009 14:01 cujo2k wrote:
I think that Terran is the hardest race unless they go mech vs zerg, cause that's just WAY easier than bio vs zerg, and in that case I'd have to vote for Zerg as being harder.


For me bio is much easier? I can't play mech even if my life depended on it. It's individual
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
February 09 2009 05:58 GMT
#314
Zerg over Terran a fair bit imo, just because you gotta macro and micro with Zerg, and with Terran you can do a lot more with just good micro. However stop lurkers and good muta micro can make it kinda rough for Terran, so I wouldn't say they are necessarily easy either. Though it's a lot easier to screw around with the Zerg as a Terran (proxies, blocking ramp and making zerg guess what is going on, etc.). On the other hand, the only real cheese zerg has is any pool below 9.

Protoss is simply not included in the argument. I know that by experience because I switched from toss to zerg a few months ago, and I really realized how little I knew about the game back as a toss (hell I'm not even good now, but you guys get my point).
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
February 09 2009 15:44 GMT
#315
Well honestly protoss is out of the question so the arguement is just between Z and T. For a long time I've always had a lot of respect for good foreign zergs and I've always considered it difficult to play. ZvZ is a frustrating and unforgiving matchup (although not as boring as TvT) and is much more difficult to win. ZvP seemed impossible from a terran standpoint as I watch any zerg get rolled over by a protoss who sits there with his dick in his hand in his base the entire game. ZvT I always thought was a fun matchup and equally difficult for both races.

Nowadays though I'm honestly leading towards terran. ZvT honestly to me seems easier and easier every game I play against a zerg. Dark swarm control at first seemed so difficult but now its just so fucking imbalanced. Now that I play with zergs with upwards of 220 apm It feels like all they have to do is run lurkers in and put swarms up. No need for expansions, macro, anything. Just mass lurkers and get a few defilers with swarm. Any terran who goes SK just loses because Its so fucking hard to try to constantly kill lurkers with marines while macroing from a ton of barracks. Heavy tank is kind of easy vrs zerg but zerg just kills vessels and you are fucked because it seems like the zerg has so much more map control in the mid game and its impossible to take a third base. ZvP Protoss have just been getting raped lately, the 5 hatch spire+hydra bo is so fucking strong that any zerg can just sit on lair and mass hydras and have a chance vrs protoss now. Still takes decent amount of micro or macro but it just seems loads easier now.
Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
Prawned
Profile Joined August 2004
United Kingdom794 Posts
February 09 2009 15:54 GMT
#316
My records:

P: 5/21
Z: 6/24
T: 3/147 (/quit SC)

Using that HUGE sampling size () I'll go as far to say that Terran is the hardest race for me to play.
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
February 09 2009 17:50 GMT
#317
It just proves that you completly suck with any race. At also proves that terran is the hardest to play on the lowest noob level.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
February 09 2009 18:01 GMT
#318
from my experience, I think Z is hardest.

I really have a big time with the hive tech .. specially defiler >
And I also find it hard to manage larva vs drone vs units.. I always end up with to many drone and not enough units..
n_n
Kleander
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States334 Posts
February 09 2009 18:08 GMT
#319
Undead is hardest
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. 지지 Guess who's learning Korean
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
February 09 2009 18:08 GMT
#320
Zerg is the hardest solely because of how little room for error there is compared to the other races. then when you add how hard their micro is most of the time(lurkerling, muta control, muta vs scourge), the terren ball(MnM not EZPZ mech shit) is the only other thing that can compare.
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