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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
May 08 2008 04:20 GMT
#61
Lol, definitely bm
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
May 08 2008 04:26 GMT
#62
On May 08 2008 12:53 ._. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 10:37 Last Romantic wrote:
Pff. I think it's fine.

BTW Magma's been 'up and coming' since '06, I don't think that counts anymore.

UpMagic plays a lot, but loses a lot. he's sub 50% in every matchup.

eStro is quite bad, to be honest. Sangho's cool though.

eStro would be a decent team if they would at least win 50% of their ace matches.

They have this nasty habit of going 2-3 a lot of the time.

90% of the time its cause of their 2v2 pulls off and either Up/Tester/Cool/Magma pulled a win out of their ass.

And then comes the ace match where they end up failing hard..so sad.

Y'know on a random thought, I wonder why shitty 1v1 players do so well in 2v2. It doesn't make sense to me..top 1v1 players have stronger mechanics and game insight, having top players play as one mighty force almost never works out..wtf.

I think Sangho would be a great player if he learned how to play late game better and had better nerves.
He can certainly play with the best of them, but he knows how to drag but never to finish.
Teamwork, I would assume. If you are dominant you usually have a large ego. Use to going your own way, relying on yourself- etc.
Can you dig it?
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
May 08 2008 04:27 GMT
#63
not bm haha U gotta crush your opponents MIND BODY AND SOUL.
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 08 2008 04:42 GMT
#64
I thought Flash did it as a way of saying "It's time to type gg and leave". You know, kind of like when you infest their burning main CC, or when Bisu came out with scouts vs Hwasin.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 04:47:44
May 08 2008 04:47 GMT
#65
On May 08 2008 13:42 teamsolid wrote:
I thought Flash did it as a way of saying "It's time to type gg and leave". You know, kind of like when you infest their burning main CC, or when Bisu came out with scouts vs Hwasin.

Yeah even the commentators were saying something similiar. Like he dmatrixed to tell magma drop all you want you're still gonna lose.
Flash is a pretty strong player mentally. Look at the osl finals with stork.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 08 2008 04:53 GMT
#66
This reminds me of Bisu using scouts. Quite frankly, I like Flash a lot more now.
yoshtodd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States418 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 05:11:18
May 08 2008 05:07 GMT
#67
I don't get why people are so mad about this stuff. Basically if the winning player can dick around that much without risk of losing, then the other player should GG already instead of prolonging their death. I would call it even more BM to make your opponent destroy all your buildings before you'll leave the game when you've clearly lost already. If Magma were still in the game, then Flash doing stuff like that might be shooting himself in the foot.

I still think it's possible he meant to irradiate them. When you've spent the last 20-30 minutes going all out 300 apm, I don't think it's unreasonable to think he may have pressed d (or whatever the d-matrix key is) instead of i.
moo
FeArTeHsCoUrGe
Profile Joined March 2008
United States58 Posts
May 08 2008 05:36 GMT
#68
Um, at least he didn't get up after he won, put on shades, and start performing pelvic thrusts.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 08 2008 05:41 GMT
#69
On May 08 2008 11:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 09:03 darktreb wrote:
Except with the way Flash is playing, that'll never happen.


Don't underestimate the power of choking.

Flash?Choking?Nah.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
May 08 2008 06:49 GMT
#70
On May 08 2008 14:07 yoshtodd wrote:
I don't get why people are so mad about this stuff. Basically if the winning player can dick around that much without risk of losing, then the other player should GG already instead of prolonging their death. I would call it even more BM to make your opponent destroy all your buildings before you'll leave the game when you've clearly lost already. If Magma were still in the game, then Flash doing stuff like that might be shooting himself in the foot.

I still think it's possible he meant to irradiate them. When you've spent the last 20-30 minutes going all out 300 apm, I don't think it's unreasonable to think he may have pressed d (or whatever the d-matrix key is) instead of i.

I agree Flash made a mistake.
Its just fucking 2 overlords, Jesus himself wont do damage of whats inside against Flash.
Its Magma, who gives a shit?
Also agree on the losing player not giving up. That night KTF achieve their 1v1 victories by cornering rats at the end. IMO when you know you are fucked you GG like Jaedong (vs Hwasin).
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4642 Posts
May 08 2008 09:03 GMT
#71
Uhm, progamers don't misclick hotkeys like that. Not twice. And they don't irradiate overlords. Just like how go.go didn't just mix up his opponent's nat with his own when he built his cc there.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
bahhh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States888 Posts
May 08 2008 09:20 GMT
#72
flash is just way too confident and good, hes to the point where he can play half asleep. naturally he gets bored and fucks around for a few laffs. hes that good.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 09:32:40
May 08 2008 09:30 GMT
#73
Guys, I think I have to clarify an issue here: progamers do not give up until they lost their final chance to survive and win.
Comebacks happen this way. + Show Spoiler +
Like Pusan vs FBH on Longinus long ago, Pusan was 1 expo down and won the game with lots of superior control and endless streams of luck plus a few wrong decisions by FBH. Or Lucifer vs Sheis exactly the same thing, I forgot the map name.

Do not complain about it like that, saying this or that progamer should leave and it's bm to stay in the game any longer. Just don't, please.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5891 Posts
May 08 2008 09:59 GMT
#74
While I agree with you, ForAdun, I think such moves are an entertaining way of saying "leave already...". ;]
Mada_Jiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia236 Posts
May 08 2008 11:10 GMT
#75
--- Nuked ---
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
May 08 2008 11:30 GMT
#76
On May 08 2008 11:51 XCetron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 11:30 useLess wrote:
Im just waiting for when someone dicks around and gets his shit slapped back in his face.


like what his name made 50gateways? lol


That was (P)fOru against (T)NaDa.

By the way, some people take pro gamer's feelings too seriously.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 08 2008 11:54 GMT
#77
On May 08 2008 20:10 Mada_Jiang wrote:
In any sport, from track and field to a professional game of chess, you treat all your opponents with respect. It is called good sportsmenship. You would be booed if you did something like this in any sport. But I guess SC in Korea is more show biz than a sport.


There are dickheads in every sport.

If you already won the game and your opponent is refusing to give up you can fool around a little bit imho. Bisus scouts were more humilitating compared to something small like D-Matrix overlords or dancing around with your units or something similar after the game is already decided.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
May 08 2008 16:36 GMT
#78
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE?

There is a clear line between being entertaining and acting like a complete dick. Flash was being cocky and stupid, and that thing should never be repeated again, for these reasons:

- Magma played really well vs the no.1 player. After such a long, intense and beautiful game, he deserved some respect, not getting humiliated like that. Imagine yourself playing a 1 hour sweating game and at the end of the game your opponent, who has just managed to closely win the game, do something like that as if he has owned you the entire game.

- Very amazing comebacks do happen in Starcraft. Fans should not forget that, and Flash himself shouldn't too. Flash should also be aware that just like every previous dominant player, his prime won't last forever and he better appreciate it.

- Doing this when the game was not over might affect your opponent mentality in a unfair way. I'm not saying that Flash intentionally did that to piss Magma off so he lost temper, but it might have very likely turned out that way. Such things would make professional SC matches look like B.Net public games.

- And yes, sportsmanship matters. What if the Koreans do humiliating shit like that to every foreigners in WCG Grand Finals 'cos they are all newb to them and games are over before they are even played, so instead of playing straightup, why don't do something fun and humiliating? Will that still be entertaining or 'badass' anymore?
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
May 08 2008 16:41 GMT
#79
On May 08 2008 20:30 ColdLava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 11:51 XCetron wrote:
On May 08 2008 11:30 useLess wrote:
Im just waiting for when someone dicks around and gets his shit slapped back in his face.


like what his name made 50gateways? lol


That was (P)fOru against (T)NaDa.

By the way, some people take pro gamer's feelings too seriously.

Playing a long Starcraft match on TV is not like being on a show, and behind it is countless of practice hours and hope. Have you ever seen them sweat, cry, or even pass out? Yes, their feelings are something that fans should appreciate more than many things else.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
May 08 2008 17:08 GMT
#80
On May 09 2008 01:36 mrdx wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE?

There is a clear line between being entertaining and acting like a complete dick. Flash was being cocky and stupid, and that thing should never be repeated again, for these reasons:

- Magma played really well vs the no.1 player. After such a long, intense and beautiful game, he deserved some respect, not getting humiliated like that. Imagine yourself playing a 1 hour sweating game and at the end of the game your opponent, who has just managed to closely win the game, do something like that as if he has owned you the entire game.

- Very amazing comebacks do happen in Starcraft. Fans should not forget that, and Flash himself shouldn't too. Flash should also be aware that just like every previous dominant player, his prime won't last forever and he better appreciate it.

- Doing this when the game was not over might affect your opponent mentality in a unfair way. I'm not saying that Flash intentionally did that to piss Magma off so he lost temper, but it might have very likely turned out that way. Such things would make professional SC matches look like B.Net public games.

- And yes, sportsmanship matters. What if the Koreans do humiliating shit like that to every foreigners in WCG Grand Finals 'cos they are all newb to them and games are over before they are even played, so instead of playing straightup, why don't do something fun and humiliating? Will that still be entertaining or 'badass' anymore?


Never seen how fighters behave? Would you call them laughing and grinning during the fight bad behaviour? Hell no, this is part of the fight and it's entertaining. If a fighter can't live with it he's just too weak in his heart. It's that simple, if you can't stand being laughed at you also can't stand the pressure of progaming.
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