I actually don't see how a competitor could break down mentally from experiencing this. If you are a true competitor, this is perfect bulletin material for motivation. I remember a year ago, Savior just handed flash his first or one of his first televised lost in a pwnage. Then he went on interview just like two days afterwards and said he hasn't faced a terran in a long time. Did flash break down? Nope, he got stronger. Did Hwasin break down after being "scouted"? Nope, he got stronger.

jello_biafra

United Kingdom6642 Posts

May 08 2008 17:49 GMT

#82

The look on Magma's face after he realized they'd been D-matrixed was hilarious.

ColdLava

Canada1673 Posts

May 09 2008 09:22 GMT

#83

On May 09 2008 01:41 mrdx wrote:

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Playing a long Starcraft match on TV is not like being on a show, and behind it is countless of practice hours and hope. Have you ever seen them sweat, cry, or even pass out? Yes, their feelings are something that fans should appreciate more than many things else.

Well obviously we appreciate what they do, but if a dmatrix on an overlord to embarass you makes you break down, then sorry but you need more balls. All I'm saying is don't get too defensive and act like Flash did something HORRIBLE and should be hated for it.

Jayson X

Switzerland2431 Posts

May 09 2008 10:10 GMT

#84

On May 09 2008 01:36 mrdx wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE?
...

And now what? Do you start a petition?
Kid is 15 years old, holds a starleague title, is the force of a progaming team, broke a protoss map, has balls probably as huge as mellons and owns everyone left and right.

Now what did magma do? He won against boxer, nada, reach and nal_ra. I'm shure there are tons of korean girls crying over two d-matrixed overlords

Dataleif

Sweden252 Posts

May 09 2008 11:54 GMT

#85

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger ;P

mrdx

Vietnam1555 Posts

May 10 2008 08:15 GMT

#86

On May 09 2008 02:08 ForAdun wrote:

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Never seen how fighters behave? Would you call them laughing and grinning during the fight bad behaviour? Hell no, this is part of the fight and it's entertaining. If a fighter can't live with it he's just too weak in his heart. It's that simple, if you can't stand being laughed at you also can't stand the pressure of progaming.

What fighters? I don't see that in any Olympics fighting sports, and sorry I don't call American wrestling and others of that sort 'sports".

While I agree that pressure and sometimes humiliation is something a successful progamer must be able to cope with, that's not a right excuse for being a dick to your opponent.

soudo

603 Posts

May 10 2008 08:40 GMT

#87

On May 09 2008 01:36 mrdx wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE?
...

Uhh...I think you need to chill a little bit. It's not like Flash went and fucked the guy's wife or something. At worst, it was unsportsmanlike conduct (which I don't really think was that bad anyway). Which doesn't really merit "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE?".

I mean really? BM is what you're gonna get all bent out of shape over?

mrdx

Vietnam1555 Posts

May 10 2008 08:57 GMT

#88

Since I always see the game as a true sport, it's hard to accept such bm in any way. But well to many TLers, progaming can be purely entertainment, that's fine.
(Promise to myself not to ever read threads regarding FBH and other bm by the pros again. -_-)

ColdLava

Canada1673 Posts

May 10 2008 09:36 GMT

#89

On May 10 2008 17:57 mrdx wrote:
Since I always see the game as a true sport, it's hard to accept such bm in any way. But well to many TLers, progaming can be purely entertainment, that's fine.
(Promise to myself not to ever read threads regarding FBH and other bm by the pros again. -_-)

Perhaps you should become a "manner" policeman. Arrest any pros that are being bm

UmmTheHobo

United States650 Posts

May 12 2008 16:12 GMT

#90

Some of you guys are acting ridiculous. Pro Starcraft players are not GODS. They are pretty cool, but they are not gods.

kemoryan

Spain1506 Posts

May 12 2008 16:46 GMT

#91

On May 08 2008 07:59 Djabanete wrote:
Is it just me or is this sort of thing getting more common? Go.go has being doing it rather a lot (sending firebats vs firebathero when he'd already won, or building a command center inside the base of some protoss after successfully rushing), and now Flash with this defensive matrix...

I guess I subscribe to the view that nothing you do within the game is really BM, because if you're in a position to be dicking around and they can't stop you, it's because they've already lost anyway. That said I personally don't do stuff like that, I just try to finish them off as efficiently as possible...

EDIT: not that FBH didn't deserve some firebat ownage.

rofl at the firebat thing

Kennelie

United States2296 Posts

May 12 2008 16:54 GMT

#92

Yea from my view I would just catch it as motivation since my opponent had enough time to own me then toy with me.....

Also I need to watch those games of the firebats on FBH and the Nada game with 50 gates....Hrmm so much to do so little time..

Chef

10810 Posts

May 12 2008 16:57 GMT

#93

I think you can be as ridiculous as you want in-game, and even in the ceremonies, as long as outside the match you and the your opponent are cool with each other. Showmanship is a part of the game, and usually doesn't have much to do with actually winning. Your coach will get mad at you, but it's also a good way to build hype around yourself, which makes you a more profitable investment for sponsors, so the coach isn't gonna cry too much. That's why, even though it's obvious SaviOr isn't exactly cool with FireBatHero (storming off the stage after losing, knowing what's coming from FBH), it brings in a lot of money and attention because of how infamous FBH is for it. People will talk about it, and a lot of people will go to games JUST to see FBH do that. I know it's the only reason I watched the latest FBH match (and SaviOr benefits just a little too, from the notoriety of their rivalry, everyone will go nuts if SaviOr finals takes him down).

In short: It's good for the game in terms of financial success to be silly, and infamous. It's probably bad if the players would refuse to shake each other's hands outside the arena (ie: people will start feeling like they're just watching a bunch of immature kids, instead of lovably ridiculous antics).

If you want SC to keep surviving as a professional sport, you need this drama.

CDRdude

United States5625 Posts

May 12 2008 17:52 GMT

#94

On May 13 2008 01:12 UmmTheHobo wrote:
Some of you guys are acting ridiculous. Pro Starcraft players are not GODS. They are pretty cool, but they are not gods.

I have a rebuttal to your point: Lim Yo Hwan.