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On March 12 2008 16:49 Meh wrote: A lot of good books have been written in prison, I'm sure alot of Starcraft could be played too! lmao!
well just look at what the airforce did rofl
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edit: to the guy who said he had some quality replays i can agree to that, grrr vs ogogo on blade storm IS, and will forever be one of my fav replays.. but i guess Grrr is more famous for that one to be honest :p
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On March 13 2008 06:47 Darkmole wrote: Ogogo was amazing :D he was an average player then i guess he became a progamer :D He won the WCG 2003 when he was an average player right? no way was he an 'average' player, he was pretty damn good. An average player wouldn't win WCG/korean prelims.. although I think in 2003 the korean prelims were online and had a lot of wintrading.. cant remember.
I think he used defilers a lot in ZvT when it was fairly unpopular to do so at the time(2003)
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On March 13 2008 06:36 drop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2008 06:05 randombum wrote:Erm... Am I the only person who doesn't know/care who ogogo was? Before I get banned I would like to say  Ogogo was a zerg player with very good mutalisk control. He was one of the few that could play well on island maps - he made other (mostly european however) players look like complete newbs when he dominated them on "impossible to win" island maps mostly due his trademark muta micro (some sort of July zerg prototype, or follower of Yellows muta-harrass tactics). On normal maps he was an "average" progamer zerg, playing mostly the now forgotten low-econ lurker-ling strat in ZvT, mass mutas in ZvZ (with ability to snipe the scourge) and pretty traditional ZvP (I think there was a replay where he massed mutas vs protoss and killed few archons - pretty entertaining). Ogogo produced some quality replays - like a game where he managed to stop an early bunker rush on LT 6/12 (during the era when terrans said that TvZ is easy - "just bunker rush and FE" - who said that btw?). He often played with European players, due to lack of korean training partners.
not really, ogogo revolutionised zvp, especially on lost temple, hydra/lurk drop was his trademark, especially dropping hydra on lt (hill above exp) and then morphing into lurks <3
he won boxer in his prime so he was damn good, he really dominated him in those wcg games. one of the best zergs at that time for sure.
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On March 13 2008 02:54 tomatriedes wrote: I want to see a mugshot of him!
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On March 13 2008 09:28 Wasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2008 08:09 Masashige wrote:On March 13 2008 04:28 Wasabi wrote: Progaming? Fruitless? Did people forget that Shinhan Bank, one of the largest banks in South Korea, was interested in hiring them because of their dexterity and fast reflexes? Fruitless or not, that is the worst example you could come up with. That's like my friend saying he can do well in life because Bill Gates dropped out of college and did well. No. And what does Bill Gates have anything to do with this? Bill Gates is one in a million (billion, really) miracle. You don't see anyone who try to be like him and become as successful as he is, do you? richard branson is similar, but no where near as rich as bill gates :p
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On March 13 2008 09:28 Wasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2008 08:09 Masashige wrote:On March 13 2008 04:28 Wasabi wrote: Progaming? Fruitless? Did people forget that Shinhan Bank, one of the largest banks in South Korea, was interested in hiring them because of their dexterity and fast reflexes? Fruitless or not, that is the worst example you could come up with. That's like my friend saying he can do well in life because Bill Gates dropped out of college and did well. No. How about you come back and read your post and say if this has anything to do with what I'm trying to say? And what does Bill Gates have anything to do with this? Bill Gates is one in a million (billion, really) miracle. You don't see anyone who try to be like him and become as successful as he is, do you? While in my *true* scenario (yes, Shinhan did say that progamers are skilled with computers and would like to give them jobs in the banking industry), there are many progamers, while many aren't successful, a job opputunity such as what Shinhan was offering is not limited to only those who are successful, thus include people who have never achieved anything. Besides, most progamers are within 15-20 years of age, which is still very young to have any true potential in a proper working setting. They have a whole decade ahead of them to try to switch professions, and get back to college. Progaming also gives the players publicity. Techinically, they are employed by the company sponsoring them. Just putting that in thier resume, not to mention the possibility of being hired by those same companies outside of their progaming team, is a big bonus.
If you arent a top tier player, you have no name recognition. Just 10 years wasted on a game.
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This is almost as disappointing as the time I beat ogogo with tank drops on LT in 2005.
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On March 13 2008 08:18 Masashige wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2008 08:14 Xeris wrote: I think anyone who has the willpower and desire/motivation to get to the TOP of anything, whether it is progaming or otherwise, can do it in any other facet of life they are interested in. I think it's much easier for kids to be into gaming or things they enjoy as opposed to studying for school.
Certainly it is easier, but that does not make all good players addicts. There are specific symptoms that define an addict that stretch beyond doing something a lot.
In Korea, progaming is a feasible dream. People can commit to that dream, loving the game but not being addicted to it, and they will spend numerous hours gaming. That does not mean that they will go anywhere in life, even as a gamer, but that does not make them an addict.
Throwing around such terminology meaninglessly is stupid.
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On March 12 2008 19:26 Plexa wrote:wow? retiring isn't enough for progamers anymore? now they have to goto prison too?! + Show Spoiler +Korean Prison System Progaming Team !! I laughed really hard at this.
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Belgium8305 Posts
hahaha always knew that nigga was gangsta
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Korean Prison System Progaming Team !!
Do it, Ogogo. DO IT!
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On March 13 2008 08:29 psyCrowe wrote: to the guy who said he had some quality replays i can agree to that, grrr vs ogogo on blade storm IS, and will forever be one of my fav replays.. but i guess Grrr is more famous for that one to be honest :p
I think the game you're referring to (Grr does a lot of sexy defending with DArchons vs waves of Ultra/Ling) was vs ZergLee, not Ogogo.
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On March 13 2008 08:56 cujo2k wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2008 06:47 Darkmole wrote: Ogogo was amazing :D he was an average player then i guess he became a progamer :D He won the WCG 2003 when he was an average player right? no way was he an 'average' player, he was pretty damn good. An average player wouldn't win WCG/korean prelims.. although I think in 2003 the korean prelims were online and had a lot of wintrading.. cant remember. I think he used defilers a lot in ZvT when it was fairly unpopular to do so at the time(2003) im pretty sure that Ogogo was an average player becuz when you check his TLPD his firsts wins were WCG 2003 Korea :D
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On March 13 2008 08:18 Masashige wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2008 08:14 Xeris wrote: I think anyone who has the willpower and desire/motivation to get to the TOP of anything, whether it is progaming or otherwise, can do it in any other facet of life they are interested in. I think it's much easier for kids to be into gaming or things they enjoy as opposed to studying for school.
I think you missed the point. The point was not that kids find STARTING gaming easy, it was that kids who reach the TOP of the gaming have the willpower to succeed at anything.
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On March 13 2008 11:50 The Storyteller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2008 08:18 Masashige wrote:On March 13 2008 08:14 Xeris wrote: I think anyone who has the willpower and desire/motivation to get to the TOP of anything, whether it is progaming or otherwise, can do it in any other facet of life they are interested in. I think it's much easier for kids to be into gaming or things they enjoy as opposed to studying for school. I think you missed the point. The point was not that kids find STARTING gaming easy, it was that kids who reach the TOP of the gaming have the willpower to succeed at anything.
qft hippie. This is completely untrue. There are some things in life you cannot reach the top of, no matter how hard you try, unless you are born with some natural talent for it. No SC pro could probably ever top Michael Jordan at basketball, Babe Ruth at baseball, etc. Not just feats of a physical nature either... I honestly doubt every sc pro could become the next Picasso, or Shakespeare, or Frank Sinatra.
So no, determination is not enough. People telling their kids stupid nonsense like you're spewing is the reason every kid thinks they're going to be an astronaut or an actor or the President. Some things are just impossible, no matter how hard you try.
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On March 12 2008 15:48 Ilikestarcraft wrote:The house he robbed is close to wear i live  boo. Wouldn't it be kinda funny though to be robbed by a starcraft player? You'd have to say something like "wow 300 robberies per minute" or "hanna dul set OGOGO STEALING"
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