EPTFlaSh vs Hacker on Ladder
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jinjin5000
United States1467 Posts
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Jealous
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1467 Posts
On January 01 2021 07:40 KwarK wrote: Flash needs to play more ultimate computer UMS maps and fewer 1v1. Killing units doesn’t do anything to infinite money, they make new ones and they’re back where they were before. You can’t take units out of the game by killing them. Stasis is how you take units out of the game. Mass arb and get > 4 supply of units in each stasis. Follow with a mass reaver recall to kill tech/production facilities to attack their ability to replace units. Fighting the units themselves doesn’t do anything. the other guy was spamming scourges pretty routinely for that it seemed like tho | ||
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
On January 01 2021 07:43 jinjin5000 wrote: the other guy was spamming scourges pretty routinely for that it seemed like tho Yeah, not saying it would be easy, but it is the only way. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Flash is a brave hero we don't perhaps deserve but need. Utmost respect to him that he was almost always managing to ignore giving in fighting it with sanity, civility and professionalism. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On January 01 2021 07:45 KwarK wrote: Yeah, not saying it would be easy, but it is the only way. mass hallucinated arbiters  | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
Hallucinations indeed seem like a very valid option, as it would force an inattentive and lazy player (as was seen in the games) into an awkward position having to pick one counter over another because he can't be sure which units are real. If protoss builds some corsairs for d-web and also adds a bunch of hallucinations of corsairs and arbiters, he can force zerg into mass producing scourges or devourers while also drawing fire away from his real corsairs and arbiters. He can stasis scourges, devourers and hydras, effectively disabling zerg's anti-air capabilities. Spores would be no problem due to d-web, even if there are a bunch of them. Then a few recalls could finish off hatcheries and tech and practically end the game. This might require sacrificing a lot of probes prior to the attack. | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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asel
Germany1601 Posts
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Highgamer
1444 Posts
On January 01 2021 20:11 asel wrote: Wow, this hacker guy is a creep. Absolutely. But seeing Flash sitting there in silence for a minute or so, after half an hour of playing with all he's got against that idiot, with this expression + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/u1zrvwO.jpg) On January 01 2021 10:27 PVJ wrote: Flash is a brave hero we don't perhaps deserve but need. Utmost respect to him that he was almost always managing to ignore giving in fighting it with sanity, civility and professionalism. | ||
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Jealous
10253 Posts
On January 01 2021 20:47 Highgamer wrote: Absolutely. But seeing Flash sitting there in silence for a minute or so, after half an hour of playing with all he's got against that idiot, with this expression + Show Spoiler + It's almost like he won a tour at some point | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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zimp
Hungary955 Posts
and/or yea stasis and recall | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4033 Posts
EDIT: he probably needed to go mass archons and reavers - those cannot be turned into broodlings by queens (assuming the cheat doesn't change that as well!). Add a couple of dark archons to MC some queens and cast parasites on his overlords to have the vision vs lurkers and have arbiters for stasis/recall. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5712 Posts
On January 02 2021 02:58 JieXian wrote: damn that was an epic battle between god and some crackhead. Thank you for the subs jinjin! It explains the problem of evil better than any theologian. :-P | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
He simply sees it as a new challenge. As if an alien species is invading earth, and it's up to him to find a solution. And not like it's a piece of trash, hacking a 20 year old game which is now played on uneven terms. Flash is like some superhero (with superintegrity too).. i feel like I'm becoming a better human just by watching him fight with all his power against this guy. And how does he still have that curiousity about the game after so long... Seriously feels like watching beasts like MJ, Maradona or someone similar in their prime. Only Flash is probably even a higher quality human. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9033 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On January 02 2021 23:44 niteReloaded wrote: I was LOLing a few times during this. The takeway from that video is even more respect for Flash... that guy is wired differently. He simply sees it as a new challenge. As if an alien species is invading earth, and it's up to him to find a solution. And not like it's a piece of trash, hacking a 20 year old game which is now played on uneven terms. Flash is like some superhero (with superintegrity too).. i feel like I'm becoming a better human just by watching him fight with all his power against this guy. And how does he still have that curiousity about the game after so long... Seriously feels like watching beasts like MJ, Maradona or someone similar in their prime. Only Flash is probably even a higher quality human. haha yes I'm impressed by the way he handled it. Just imagine if it had been Artosis. speaking of beasts/madmen: | ||
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TelecoM
United States10686 Posts
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wishbonesaka
Canada117 Posts
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1506 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
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weiliem
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On January 01 2021 07:40 KwarK wrote: Flash needs to play more ultimate computer UMS maps and fewer 1v1. Killing units doesn’t do anything to infinite money, they make new ones and they’re back where they were before. You can’t take units out of the game by killing them. Stasis is how you take units out of the game. Mass arb and get > 4 supply of units in each stasis. Follow with a mass reaver recall to kill tech/production facilities to attack their ability to replace units. Fighting the units themselves doesn’t do anything. Wow that actually that perfect sense! On January 02 2021 21:01 maybenexttime wrote: It explains the problem of evil better than any theologian. :-P haha :D | ||
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Leonix
161 Posts
Than he is zerg and doesnt need drones, so this means he can have even more than Flash, since Flash needs to mine... Otherwise it would be a all in by Flash... Interestingly the hacker has defeats and disconnects aswell as 4160 apm | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
If he could've killed them near his base, maybe he could've eliminated some of the hatcheries... I also really felt that early zealot attack was a good chance as it seemed Z didn't have much production capacity yet there. Was initially still thinking maybe if he can't get out of his main he's too space limited, but I guess there was still plenty of room for hatcheries there  Anyway lots of good advice here on how to deal with this, stasis and maelstrom would've both been great. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
But I think it might be a bad idea to stream these things. Hackers should just be reported and banned, not given publicity. | ||
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outscar
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On January 04 2021 05:30 weiliem wrote: I actually laughed so hard when all Flash's carriers were scourge, and he actually made sure his windows were closed b4 he rage screams hahahahaha hahaha yeah | ||
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