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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1412 Posts
December 31 2020 21:03 GMT
#1
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10115 Posts
December 31 2020 22:38 GMT
#2
I clicked through and I am HYPE to see this. Thanks for the continuing content, jinjin. That "Star" is inevitable
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42486 Posts
December 31 2020 22:40 GMT
#3
Flash needs to play more ultimate computer UMS maps and fewer 1v1. Killing units doesn’t do anything to infinite money, they make new ones and they’re back where they were before. You can’t take units out of the game by killing them. Stasis is how you take units out of the game. Mass arb and get > 4 supply of units in each stasis. Follow with a mass reaver recall to kill tech/production facilities to attack their ability to replace units. Fighting the units themselves doesn’t do anything.
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1412 Posts
December 31 2020 22:43 GMT
#4
On January 01 2021 07:40 KwarK wrote:
Flash needs to play more ultimate computer UMS maps and fewer 1v1. Killing units doesn’t do anything to infinite money, they make new ones and they’re back where they were before. You can’t take units out of the game by killing them. Stasis is how you take units out of the game. Mass arb and get > 4 supply of units in each stasis. Follow with a mass reaver recall to kill tech/production facilities to attack their ability to replace units. Fighting the units themselves doesn’t do anything.


the other guy was spamming scourges pretty routinely for that it seemed like tho
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42486 Posts
December 31 2020 22:45 GMT
#5
On January 01 2021 07:43 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2021 07:40 KwarK wrote:
Flash needs to play more ultimate computer UMS maps and fewer 1v1. Killing units doesn’t do anything to infinite money, they make new ones and they’re back where they were before. You can’t take units out of the game by killing them. Stasis is how you take units out of the game. Mass arb and get > 4 supply of units in each stasis. Follow with a mass reaver recall to kill tech/production facilities to attack their ability to replace units. Fighting the units themselves doesn’t do anything.


the other guy was spamming scourges pretty routinely for that it seemed like tho

Yeah, not saying it would be easy, but it is the only way.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10000 Posts
December 31 2020 23:34 GMT
#6
let's see how long it takes them to patch this out
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
January 01 2021 01:27 GMT
#7
Wow I watched through the thing expecting from the title a UMS sort of thing against a sad narcissist but the context was almost unbearably surreal. Whoever put these thoughts into the guys head is piece of shit and the guy needs some mental help. Of course that's not up to us, Flash, or the company. An actionable and good step from Blizzard's would be to ban hackers and moderate the ladder better.

Flash is a brave hero we don't perhaps deserve but need. Utmost respect to him that he was almost always managing to ignore giving in fighting it with sanity, civility and professionalism.
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MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-01 02:00:47
January 01 2021 02:00 GMT
#8
The multicommand hack here was interesting to see. Looks like the multicommand hack worked with spells? Queens broodling all goons instantly and queen parasite all corsairs towards end. Crazy
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
January 01 2021 02:39 GMT
#9
On January 01 2021 07:45 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2021 07:43 jinjin5000 wrote:
On January 01 2021 07:40 KwarK wrote:
Flash needs to play more ultimate computer UMS maps and fewer 1v1. Killing units doesn’t do anything to infinite money, they make new ones and they’re back where they were before. You can’t take units out of the game by killing them. Stasis is how you take units out of the game. Mass arb and get > 4 supply of units in each stasis. Follow with a mass reaver recall to kill tech/production facilities to attack their ability to replace units. Fighting the units themselves doesn’t do anything.


the other guy was spamming scourges pretty routinely for that it seemed like tho

Yeah, not saying it would be easy, but it is the only way.

mass hallucinated arbiters
blabberrrrr
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3843 Posts
January 01 2021 03:24 GMT
#10
On January 01 2021 11:39 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2021 07:45 KwarK wrote:
On January 01 2021 07:43 jinjin5000 wrote:
On January 01 2021 07:40 KwarK wrote:
Flash needs to play more ultimate computer UMS maps and fewer 1v1. Killing units doesn’t do anything to infinite money, they make new ones and they’re back where they were before. You can’t take units out of the game by killing them. Stasis is how you take units out of the game. Mass arb and get > 4 supply of units in each stasis. Follow with a mass reaver recall to kill tech/production facilities to attack their ability to replace units. Fighting the units themselves doesn’t do anything.


the other guy was spamming scourges pretty routinely for that it seemed like tho

Yeah, not saying it would be easy, but it is the only way.

mass hallucinated arbiters


Hallucinations indeed seem like a very valid option, as it would force an inattentive and lazy player (as was seen in the games) into an awkward position having to pick one counter over another because he can't be sure which units are real. If protoss builds some corsairs for d-web and also adds a bunch of hallucinations of corsairs and arbiters, he can force zerg into mass producing scourges or devourers while also drawing fire away from his real corsairs and arbiters. He can stasis scourges, devourers and hydras, effectively disabling zerg's anti-air capabilities. Spores would be no problem due to d-web, even if there are a bunch of them. Then a few recalls could finish off hatcheries and tech and practically end the game.
This might require sacrificing a lot of probes prior to the attack.
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
January 01 2021 11:09 GMT
#11
Haha I remember seeing this video on FlaSh's channel, that game where the opponent constantly rallies tons of zealots into his main was hilarious. Thanks JinJin
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asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
January 01 2021 11:11 GMT
#12
Wow, this hacker guy is a creep.
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1402 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-01 11:47:40
January 01 2021 11:47 GMT
#13
On January 01 2021 20:11 asel wrote:
Wow, this hacker guy is a creep.


Absolutely.

But seeing Flash sitting there in silence for a minute or so, after half an hour of playing with all he's got against that idiot, with this expression + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
, whether he is finally frustrated/depressed enough by this moron to let go or whether he's just pondering how he could get that jerk, or both, impresses me somehow. Seems to show his composed, upright character.
On January 01 2021 10:27 PVJ wrote:
Flash is a brave hero we don't perhaps deserve but need. Utmost respect to him that he was almost always managing to ignore giving in fighting it with sanity, civility and professionalism.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10115 Posts
January 01 2021 11:50 GMT
#14
On January 01 2021 20:47 Highgamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2021 20:11 asel wrote:
Wow, this hacker guy is a creep.


Absolutely.

But seeing Flash sitting there in silence for a minute or so, after half an hour of playing with all he's got against that idiot, with this expression + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
, whether he is finally frustrated/depressed enough by this moron to let go or whether he's just pondering how he could get that jerk, or both, impresses me somehow. Seems to show his composed, upright character.
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2021 10:27 PVJ wrote:
Flash is a brave hero we don't perhaps deserve but need. Utmost respect to him that he was almost always managing to ignore giving in fighting it with sanity, civility and professionalism.

It's almost like he won a tour at some point
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 01 2021 12:40 GMT
#15
i think maelstorm would help a lot
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
January 01 2021 14:22 GMT
#16
a frontal attack with mass templar and storm would've worked better than waiting for air units... that only resulted in minute 27, which was funny though, closing the window before shouting :D
and/or yea stasis and recall
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 01 2021 17:58 GMT
#17
damn that was an epic battle between god and some crackhead. Thank you for the subs jinjin!
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 01 2021 20:43 GMT
#18
Flash was super pissed wow. He has a lot of patience and Kwark is right about going ham on the production facilities but even then it looks like it all in vain because the guy literally had every cheat code enabled including changing the lat and game speed. That was a crazy hack that literally had everything...
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium3999 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-02 09:25:55
January 02 2021 09:12 GMT
#19
protoss player (streamer) is also a cheater, no human can play this fast

EDIT: he probably needed to go mass archons and reavers - those cannot be turned into broodlings by queens (assuming the cheat doesn't change that as well!). Add a couple of dark archons to MC some queens and cast parasites on his overlords to have the vision vs lurkers and have arbiters for stasis/recall.
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5534 Posts
January 02 2021 12:01 GMT
#20
On January 02 2021 02:58 JieXian wrote:
damn that was an epic battle between god and some crackhead. Thank you for the subs jinjin!

It explains the problem of evil better than any theologian. :-P
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