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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1468 Posts
July 29 2019 22:00 GMT
#1
Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway637 Posts
July 29 2019 22:06 GMT
#2
Lol, that's insane xD thank you so much for all the work you're doing, jinjin! This is fantastic! :-D
It's ok. I still love you <3
La.911
Profile Joined June 2019
9 Posts
July 29 2019 22:20 GMT
#3
awesome videos jinjin!! Thank you!
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
July 29 2019 22:32 GMT
#4
Lol thanks for the translation. It's crazy how in a lot of things the greatest are really insanely skilled from a young age.

I don't remember there being much hype behind Flash before he debuted on tv though? Maybe they kept this under wraps to not embarrass the team? What time period would this have been like late 2006 or early 2007? I remember he started out in tv matches something like 16-2 in proleague/starleague qualifiers only losing to bonjwa Savior and then a game to Boxer.

I can't remember the story behind Flash transfer from Pantech -> KTF but I don't remember it being a big deal. I guess Pantech didn't see his potential and let him go for cheap
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1468 Posts
July 29 2019 22:54 GMT
#5
On July 30 2019 07:32 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
Lol thanks for the translation. It's crazy how in a lot of things the greatest are really insanely skilled from a young age.

I don't remember there being much hype behind Flash before he debuted on tv though? Maybe they kept this under wraps to not embarrass the team? What time period would this have been like late 2006 or early 2007? I remember he started out in tv matches something like 16-2 in proleague/starleague qualifiers only losing to bonjwa Savior and then a game to Boxer.

I can't remember the story behind Flash transfer from Pantech -> KTF but I don't remember it being a big deal. I guess Pantech didn't see his potential and let him go for cheap


I believe he was highly regarded even before whole kt and he was offered contract much better than regular recruit would get
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 29 2019 23:02 GMT
#6
And the rest is history.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
July 29 2019 23:07 GMT
#7
How has there been no show/comic made about the storylines like this in the pro strarcraft scene. I know there's that Nada one, but goddamn does Flash's career sound straight out of an anime or some shit.

Thanks for the translations.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
July 29 2019 23:19 GMT
#8
Poor Nal_ra lol, the changing of the guard was sudden and brutal.
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ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
July 29 2019 23:20 GMT
#9
On July 30 2019 07:54 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 07:32 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
Lol thanks for the translation. It's crazy how in a lot of things the greatest are really insanely skilled from a young age.

I don't remember there being much hype behind Flash before he debuted on tv though? Maybe they kept this under wraps to not embarrass the team? What time period would this have been like late 2006 or early 2007? I remember he started out in tv matches something like 16-2 in proleague/starleague qualifiers only losing to bonjwa Savior and then a game to Boxer.

I can't remember the story behind Flash transfer from Pantech -> KTF but I don't remember it being a big deal. I guess Pantech didn't see his potential and let him go for cheap


I believe he was highly regarded even before whole kt and he was offered contract much better than regular recruit would get


Ah ok. That would make sense if Nal ra was in the right ballpark regarding his salary as a recruit since normally recruits would not be paid anything close to 50k. I just don't remember hearing anything before he was already playing on TV but could just be the foreigners weren't as in the loop with up and coming players.

Then I'm just left wondering why Pantech let him go
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
562 Posts
July 29 2019 23:33 GMT
#10
KANGMIN won a game!!
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 30 2019 00:57 GMT
#11
"At least I won a game!!"
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10253 Posts
July 30 2019 01:47 GMT
#12
Nalra confirmed 2nd best KT of all time for taking a game.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
July 30 2019 02:06 GMT
#13
thanks for the translation!
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chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
July 30 2019 02:56 GMT
#14
On July 30 2019 10:47 FlaShFTW wrote:
Nalra confirmed 2nd best KT of all time for taking a game.

2 games
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
July 30 2019 03:04 GMT
#15
Damn were any other pros just instant fire like flash was? I guess oov right? JD/Stork/Bisu all took a while before they hit their strides IIRC. Not really sure about the earlier eras though.
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1444 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-30 03:44:54
July 30 2019 03:30 GMT
#16
On July 30 2019 12:04 Ideas wrote:
Damn were any other pros just instant fire like flash was? I guess oov right? JD/Stork/Bisu all took a while before they hit their strides IIRC. Not really sure about the earlier eras though.


Really makes you wonder how the hell Flash became that good before he joined KT, apart from genuine talent.
Of course thousands of hours of practice, his mechanics were praised to be insane from the beginning of his career. But how did he develop that understanding of the game that is just one level above everyone else? As a middle schooler or even earlier.
I think, in an interview he said that he was crazy about BW as a kid, thinking about it all day, in school, in the shower, before sleep or s.th. like that. Not just "thinking about", but pondering about every possibility, strategy, counter etc.
But I assume he must have also had just the right environement around him, online and irl (friends, PC-bangs), at the time or shortly after he stumbled across the game. Before joining a sponsored team [liquidpedia says "Drafted by Pantech and Curitel in 2007"] he was in By-clan, wasn't he, on Fish or where they played at the time? Thus his aka by.Flash. I think I read somewhere that that clan was know for collecting talent and breeding monstrous rookies at some point - but maybe that is mainly because it brought forth Flash (?).
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-30 03:50:40
July 30 2019 03:46 GMT
#17
Wow Flash destroying an established team at 12 years old unbelievable. Someone needs to make a documentary of his story!!!
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1468 Posts
July 30 2019 04:02 GMT
#18
On July 30 2019 12:30 Highgamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 12:04 Ideas wrote:
Damn were any other pros just instant fire like flash was? I guess oov right? JD/Stork/Bisu all took a while before they hit their strides IIRC. Not really sure about the earlier eras though.


Really makes you wonder how the hell Flash became that good before he joined KT, apart from genuine talent.
Of course thousands of hours of practice, his mechanics were praised to be insane from the beginning of his career. But how did he develop that understanding of the game that is just one level above everyone else? As a middle schooler or even earlier.
I think, in an interview he said that he was crazy about BW as a kid, thinking about it all day, in school, in the shower, before sleep or s.th. like that. Not just "thinking about", but pondering about every possibility, strategy, counter etc.
But I assume he must have also had just the right environement around him, online and irl (friends, PC-bangs), at the time or shortly after he stumbled across the game. Before joining a sponsored team [liquidpedia says "Drafted by Pantech and Curitel in 2007"] he was in By-clan, wasn't he, on Fish or where they played at the time? Thus his aka by.Flash. I think I read somewhere that that clan was know for collecting talent and breeding monstrous rookies at some point - but maybe that is mainly because it brought forth Flash (?).


I belive korean clans did a lot to help these aspiring progamers

For example, Lee young-ho(FlaSh) was originally in FlaSh clan and went with name www[FlaSh], but the clan leader disbanded and transferred FlaSh to by. clan (that focused more on transitioning gamers to pro-level) to try to help Lee to take the next step to being progamer as the clan leader felt Lee outgrew the clan.

FlaSh relunctantly went to by clan but instead took on the username of "FlaSh" to honor the old clan name that became defunct for him to become by.FlaSh, and rest is history

Idk the details since i only really began to play 1v1 bw after starcraft remastered and only watched little bit when younger
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 30 2019 04:20 GMT
#19
On July 30 2019 07:32 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
Lol thanks for the translation. It's crazy how in a lot of things the greatest are really insanely skilled from a young age.

I don't remember there being much hype behind Flash before he debuted on tv though? Maybe they kept this under wraps to not embarrass the team? What time period would this have been like late 2006 or early 2007? I remember he started out in tv matches something like 16-2 in proleague/starleague qualifiers only losing to bonjwa Savior and then a game to Boxer.

I can't remember the story behind Flash transfer from Pantech -> KTF but I don't remember it being a big deal. I guess Pantech didn't see his potential and let him go for cheap


Reach was his roommate/mentor and said publicly that he's the most talented player he's ever seen.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 30 2019 04:22 GMT
#20
On July 30 2019 13:02 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 12:30 Highgamer wrote:
On July 30 2019 12:04 Ideas wrote:
Damn were any other pros just instant fire like flash was? I guess oov right? JD/Stork/Bisu all took a while before they hit their strides IIRC. Not really sure about the earlier eras though.


Really makes you wonder how the hell Flash became that good before he joined KT, apart from genuine talent.
Of course thousands of hours of practice, his mechanics were praised to be insane from the beginning of his career. But how did he develop that understanding of the game that is just one level above everyone else? As a middle schooler or even earlier.
I think, in an interview he said that he was crazy about BW as a kid, thinking about it all day, in school, in the shower, before sleep or s.th. like that. Not just "thinking about", but pondering about every possibility, strategy, counter etc.
But I assume he must have also had just the right environement around him, online and irl (friends, PC-bangs), at the time or shortly after he stumbled across the game. Before joining a sponsored team [liquidpedia says "Drafted by Pantech and Curitel in 2007"] he was in By-clan, wasn't he, on Fish or where they played at the time? Thus his aka by.Flash. I think I read somewhere that that clan was know for collecting talent and breeding monstrous rookies at some point - but maybe that is mainly because it brought forth Flash (?).


I belive korean clans did a lot to help these aspiring progamers

For example, Lee young-ho(FlaSh) was originally in FlaSh clan and went with name www[FlaSh], but the clan leader disbanded and transferred FlaSh to by. clan (that focused more on transitioning gamers to pro-level) to try to help Lee to take the next step to being progamer as the clan leader felt Lee outgrew the clan.

FlaSh relunctantly went to by clan but instead took on the username of "FlaSh" to honor the old clan name that became defunct for him to become by.FlaSh, and rest is history

Idk the details since i only really began to play 1v1 bw after starcraft remastered and only watched little bit when younger


That's an awesome story that we never get to learn about -- thanks again for relaying them to us.
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