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Nada's build order from ASL S7 game 1 vs Larva - Page 3

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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 19 2019 04:05 GMT
#41
On January 19 2019 13:00 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2019 09:29 TwiggyWan wrote:
is it really worth doing ghost range when it's possible to cast a dmatrix, then when the ghost is attacked, after one or two seconds cast another?

I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure you can't cast another DMatrix on a unit that is already DMatrixed, or at least it won't replenish the effect.


You can D-Maxtrix any unit again, it will just replace the old one and start from full shield again. If we're talking about stacking the spell, then obviously that is a definite no.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10202 Posts
January 19 2019 08:47 GMT
#42
On January 19 2019 13:05 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2019 13:00 Jealous wrote:
On January 19 2019 09:29 TwiggyWan wrote:
is it really worth doing ghost range when it's possible to cast a dmatrix, then when the ghost is attacked, after one or two seconds cast another?

I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure you can't cast another DMatrix on a unit that is already DMatrixed, or at least it won't replenish the effect.


You can D-Maxtrix any unit again, it will just replace the old one and start from full shield again. If we're talking about stacking the spell, then obviously that is a definite no.

Thanks for letting me know! Today I learned. NaDa must not have had the energy.
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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
January 19 2019 21:01 GMT
#43
Nada did cast 2 defense matrix spells. You can hear it and see the vessel flash.

46.32 first d matrix
46.40 2nd d matrix

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10202 Posts
January 20 2019 00:50 GMT
#44
On January 20 2019 06:01 Jukado wrote:
Nada did cast 2 defense matrix spells. You can hear it and see the vessel flash.

46.32 first d matrix
46.40 2nd d matrix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I216esl5toI&t=46m25s

Wow, thanks! I missed it the first time around I guess in the heat of the moment.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 20 2019 02:40 GMT
#45
I think a medic might have a made a different there, I wasn't even aware that he casted a 2nd d-matrix.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
January 20 2019 14:16 GMT
#46
and what about ghost with clock + optical flare ???
Sic iter ad astra
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10202 Posts
January 20 2019 19:19 GMT
#47
On January 20 2019 23:16 ajmbek wrote:
and what about ghost with clock + optical flare ???

Knowing what time it is in the game is important, but I don't think the ghost needs a personal clock for that!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-22 00:04:16
January 22 2019 00:03 GMT
#48
No metter how many times I watch it, I just can't find the red dot indicating where the 1st nuke where aimed at. Judging by the gohst position I feel he aimed to the 3 front sunkens and that is imo the main mistake. You do want ur gohst as far back as it can possibly be, you don't need to instant kill all 6 sunk with the nuke, just taking down the 3 on the front and leaving the other ones severly damaged is more than enough to "ez" gg the zerg from there. You can actually aim a few hex further away from the front sunken line to get that job done.
All I said above + ocular implants would have make the difference since he got so close to actually hitting it.
Anyway, game was awesome, much respect to Nada. Coming up with an strategy to take down an opponent who is a few steps above in the skill index, with you knowing it, and him knowing you know it, it's not an easy task, but is one of the most beautiful feats to watch in this game. You were very close Nada, Genius Terran indeed.
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
January 22 2019 02:27 GMT
#49
On January 22 2019 09:03 LocoBolon wrote:
No metter how many times I watch it, I just can't find the red dot indicating where the 1st nuke where aimed at. Judging by the gohst position I feel he aimed to the 3 front sunkens and that is imo the main mistake. You do want ur gohst as far back as it can possibly be, you don't need to instant kill all 6 sunk with the nuke, just taking down the 3 on the front and leaving the other ones severly damaged is more than enough to "ez" gg the zerg from there. You can actually aim a few hex further away from the front sunken line to get that job done.
All I said above + ocular implants would have make the difference since he got so close to actually hitting it.
Anyway, game was awesome, much respect to Nada. Coming up with an strategy to take down an opponent who is a few steps above in the skill index, with you knowing it, and him knowing you know it, it's not an easy task, but is one of the most beautiful feats to watch in this game. You were very close Nada, Genius Terran indeed.

It's right on top of the middle sunken, front row
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8136 Posts
January 22 2019 02:40 GMT
#50
Obviously he should have D-matrixed the ghost with 1 vessel, then D-matrixed the OTHER vessel and use that vessel to cover up the ghost to prevent targeting him.
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Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
January 22 2019 04:57 GMT
#51
On January 20 2019 06:01 Jukado wrote:
Nada did cast 2 defense matrix spells. You can hear it and see the vessel flash.

46.32 first d matrix
46.40 2nd d matrix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I216esl5toI&t=46m25s


Watching that again with headphones, the crowd noise was wild during that game
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
January 22 2019 14:04 GMT
#52
On January 21 2019 04:19 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2019 23:16 ajmbek wrote:
and what about ghost with clock + optical flare ???

Knowing what time it is in the game is important, but I don't think the ghost needs a personal clock for that!


are you trolling or what?
Sic iter ad astra
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10202 Posts
January 23 2019 03:37 GMT
#53
On January 22 2019 23:04 ajmbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2019 04:19 Jealous wrote:
On January 20 2019 23:16 ajmbek wrote:
and what about ghost with clock + optical flare ???

Knowing what time it is in the game is important, but I don't think the ghost needs a personal clock for that!


are you trolling or what?

Please review your original post for the answer ^^ <3
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-23 10:24:29
January 23 2019 10:23 GMT
#54


Flash doing this build, Nada definitely screwed up in 2 moments. First was not waiting for sight range to be done and second aiming too deep into the sunken line.
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
January 25 2019 00:06 GMT
#55
On January 23 2019 19:23 Dante08 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRtU4mAS5g

Flash doing this build, Nada definitely screwed up in 2 moments. First was not waiting for sight range to be done and second aiming too deep into the sunken line.


Having Flash backing up my words about bw is like having gravity backing up my theories about physics (assuming I somehow could have one of those).
Cloak it's not compatible with Matrix so it would only be useful in very special conditions, sight range is much more Kespa if you ask me (and Flash) LOOL.

It's been fun theorizing with you about the metter, now God has spoken, we got our answer.
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
January 25 2019 01:58 GMT
#56
i thought the reason nada lost was he pushed the ghost too far in to get maximum nuke value, even though a more edge nuke would have gotten the sunkens... the main difference would have been that some marines could have shielded from the lings... and the nuke probably would have landed?
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