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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 19 2017 16:29 GMT
#241
Calm down, if blizzard eventually fails, iccup is still there (I hope)
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland749 Posts
April 19 2017 16:35 GMT
#242
On April 20 2017 01:29 fabiano wrote:
Calm down, if blizzard eventually fails, iccup is still there (I hope)

If not, ShieldBattery will definitely be there. But due to lack of coders for iccup bw section, I'm quite sure iCCup will stay on 1.16.1 quite a while which shouldn't be a problem at all
Rip & Tear until it is done!
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
April 19 2017 16:41 GMT
#243
It's super bad now. Community is splitted, some of ppl gonna play 1.16 icc, some 1.16 fish, some 1.18 with bugs,,
yo~.~
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7218 Posts
April 19 2017 16:44 GMT
#244
So that new project David Kim was working on was this new patch ? :D
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
April 19 2017 16:47 GMT
#245
On April 20 2017 01:22 Broodwar4lyf wrote:
this is blizzard's way to get us to hate this game and eventually move to sc2


Not sure how well that's gonna work. At this point they would need to pay me hourly to even touch SC2 again.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6184 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-19 17:20:34
April 19 2017 17:15 GMT
#246
no one is going to play 1.18 without ladder.
On April 20 2017 00:31 Little-Chimp wrote:
So can foreigners use fish now without a korean phone number?

I'm pretty sure Fish removed phone verification on 1.16 too a while ago.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1185 Posts
April 19 2017 17:20 GMT
#247
On April 20 2017 01:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
So that new project David Kim was working on was this new patch ? :D

Wait for the remastered balance and everything.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
April 19 2017 17:25 GMT
#248
Fish had a ladder on 1.18 but the lack of functionality and the bugs made it too inconvenient for people to want to play there. I hope Blizz now understands the importance of restoring chat functionality to what everyone is used to or risk fracturing the community..
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 19 2017 17:26 GMT
#249
On April 20 2017 01:29 fabiano wrote:
Calm down, if blizzard eventually fails, iccup is still there (I hope)


yes it will be. There are no plans to discontinue the service so far. This server will continue existing as long as the users demand it.
Broodwar for life!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 19 2017 17:28 GMT
#250
On April 20 2017 01:41 trutaCz wrote:
It's super bad now. Community is splitted, some of ppl gonna play 1.16 icc, some 1.16 fish, some 1.18 with bugs,,


im in no mood to click through the whole thread. Can somebody give me a quick sum up why we can play with 1.16 and 1.18 on fish? Does fish have two servers now? Whats going on?
Broodwar for life!
rand0MPrecisi0n
Profile Joined February 2017
313 Posts
April 19 2017 17:31 GMT
#251
Here's some korean feedback a guy posted on reddit:

I've played the 1.18 myself and watched countless progamers express dissapointment. I'll start off a list of complaints I've seen. I hope somone posts this on sc forum.
-No more Eud which means no more creative ums like random tower def, super mario, one punch man, or kpop defense. These UMS were very important part of fish server and sc community. We had thousands playing random tower defense and other trendy ums every month. Now that EUD is gone, UMS community is SHATTERED. There's only outdated ones. -Hotley inputs are slow. Pros said whenever they hotkey a group of units or buildings really fast the hotkey does not register. - Effort said mutas feel very heavy and feels very hard to micro. - mouse feels very heavy compared to 1.16 - B.net interface is HORRIBLE. On ladder channel you can't spam whispers to people in ladder and instead you have to manually type their ids to send them msg to ladder. The process of creating also feels very slos. Overall Ui looks ugly and not clickable. -No gamma correction to adjust screen lighting. This makes sc screen dark - no /f m /f l /w in game - this is big. You can't seem to create passworded game for your friend to come in. Your friend will get INVALID password even if your friend typed it out correctly. -game lan is bad. Seems slower than normal #l2.

I really hope blizzard fixes these issues. These are HUGE. I see progamers express so much dissapointment on afreeca streams.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-19 17:43:48
April 19 2017 17:41 GMT
#252
On April 19 2017 21:17 RedW4rr10r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2017 21:10 TT1 wrote:
On April 19 2017 21:05 CadenZa wrote:
fish server announcement: [시스템 공지] 현재 본서버에 1.16.1 클라이언트로 접속이 가능하게 수정되었습니다.
[시스템 공지] 현재 1.18 클라이언트로 블리자드 서버 접속 장애로 인해 서버 접속이 원활하지 않은 상태입니다.
fish is using 1.16.1


Fish server announcement: [System Notice] This server has been modified to be able to connect as 1.16.1 client.
[System Notice] Currently 1.18 client is not connected to the server due to Blizzard server connection failure.
Fish is using 1.16.1

google translate is pro.

Haha, yea. This is literally the first time google translate (and naver translate) had such a good translation. Usually, if you have them more than 2 words to be translated, you get non-sense xD

But ... is it true that Fish upgrades back to 1.16.1?

Google translate received some serious improvements for a number of languages recently (korean one of them). There are a number of long form articles about it if you search around (fruits of machine learning efforts).

This thread is very disappointing I guess they still have time to get things right but not a great first impression i guess?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 19 2017 17:48 GMT
#253
On April 20 2017 02:41 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2017 21:17 RedW4rr10r wrote:
On April 19 2017 21:10 TT1 wrote:
On April 19 2017 21:05 CadenZa wrote:
fish server announcement: [시스템 공지] 현재 본서버에 1.16.1 클라이언트로 접속이 가능하게 수정되었습니다.
[시스템 공지] 현재 1.18 클라이언트로 블리자드 서버 접속 장애로 인해 서버 접속이 원활하지 않은 상태입니다.
fish is using 1.16.1


Fish server announcement: [System Notice] This server has been modified to be able to connect as 1.16.1 client.
[System Notice] Currently 1.18 client is not connected to the server due to Blizzard server connection failure.
Fish is using 1.16.1

google translate is pro.

Haha, yea. This is literally the first time google translate (and naver translate) had such a good translation. Usually, if you have them more than 2 words to be translated, you get non-sense xD

But ... is it true that Fish upgrades back to 1.16.1?

Google translate received some serious improvements for a number of languages recently (korean one of them). There are a number of long form articles about it if you search around (fruits of machine learning efforts).

This thread is very disappointing I guess they still have time to get things right but not a great first impression i guess?


A little, but according to TT1 they started with a huge list of bugs and many of them have been fixed up to this point. If they keep fixing bugs, the premature release turns out to really be no big deal. Basically the same of thinking of this as PTR5.

The real question is why release the clearly unfinished 1.18 early, unless they really felt they were at the point they needed to test on a large variety of hardware/software setups (which seems unlikely given there were already many known issues)?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
April 19 2017 17:59 GMT
#254
I'm getting really bad pre-game lag a lot when I play with a few people, especially if they arent from north america. Half the time it then randomly doesnt lag in game (and by bad pre game lag im talking sitting there for 2-3 minutes on 0 second countdowns) or it lags unbearably. Anyone else getting this? -_-

Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany614 Posts
April 19 2017 18:05 GMT
#255
On April 19 2017 22:38 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2017 22:27 Ansibled wrote:
On April 19 2017 22:09 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On April 19 2017 22:01 Ansibled wrote:
On April 19 2017 20:30 outscar wrote:
On April 19 2017 20:23 GoSeal wrote:
Hello everybody, my name is Joseph. Most of you probably got owned by me a few times on StarCraft Original. But those things happens, more than you like. Anyways, enough of the small talk.

This 1.18 update is retarded. The update is forcing players to upgrade their PC. If you don't have a modern graphics card, say good bye to StarCraft. Unless you're willing to upgrade.

Basically, the update merged the Original StarCraft Game Engine *Take note on the (Original). Yes, ORIGINAL Game Engine* with the new pretty boy faggot "HD Remastered" Game Engine. So... there technically is no longer a StarCraft Original. It's now StarCraft Remastered. And now you are forced to upgrade your PC specs to be able to meet the minimum requirements for this StarCraft Remastered Game Engine.

Enough of the nerd talk though. I care less. StarCraft just screwed themselves. These people, these people that prefer the prettiest marine attacking the most prettiest dragoons attacking the most prettiest zergling are going to enjoy the game until the next "pretty" thing comes along. Enjoy the "pretty boy" bandwagon buddies. Continue on with your pretty boy sausage fest.

All i'm saying is, I don't give a shit about graphics. StarCraft was a great game. That's why I still played it. Because it was a great game. The whole idea behind StarCraft was amazing. But now, now I can't play it unless I upgrade this PC. Which i'll never do because i'm not a PC enthusiast. And i'm not a savage when it comes to pretty graphics.

Perhaps this team of developers working at battle.net could have focused more time on cleaning battle.net from hackers and cheaters rather than making a Marines Tooth shine brighter with his smile and a Dragoons Armor shine brighter and a Ultralisks Legs look more sharper. Those things have no relevance when it comes down to the game play of StarCraft. Perhaps this team of developers at Battle.net could have focused more on making battle.net a more enjoyable experience by improving ways to make public matches, 4v4, 3v3, and 2v2, more fair from the nerds and try hards on these competition leagues.

I'm just saying. Nothing matters anymore though because I can't even play the game anymore. Good luck gamers, staring at the Marines buffed and polished butt.


I like your approaching and honest opinion man. You will get ton of downvote but I really want you to post this on battle.net forum. We didn't even see that "shiny marine tooth" yet but we already encountered ton of bugs boy.

I mean what are the minimum requirements for the game exactly, a computer released in the past 15 years?

Like i said about a week ago 1.18 needs windows 7 now.XP no longer works.
So basically the requirements for windows 7.

Isn't using XP just a security risk? I really don't think it's Blizzard's fault they aren't supporting XP when Microsoft hasn't supported it for years either.

Probably.Many still use it.
I'm just saying the floor for W7 is the new requirements for BW 1.18.So it should be able to run on any computer from the past 12 years as opposed to every computer from the past 20.


If you still have to use Win XP because your PC is from 15 years ago and you can't afford a new machine, please do yourself a favour and install a light Linux variant like Xubuntu. You'll have a more secure PC with a modern UI designed in this decade and you can still use all your old Windows games and applications through the WINE windows emulator. I haven't tried 1.18 with it yet, but I bet it'll run fine, because 1.16 was working too.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
April 19 2017 18:09 GMT
#256
I can't believe they shipped out 1.18 without EUD and not having fixed the hotkey input issue. This is unacceptable
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 19 2017 18:10 GMT
#257
On April 20 2017 03:05 shin ken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2017 22:38 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On April 19 2017 22:27 Ansibled wrote:
On April 19 2017 22:09 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On April 19 2017 22:01 Ansibled wrote:
On April 19 2017 20:30 outscar wrote:
On April 19 2017 20:23 GoSeal wrote:
Hello everybody, my name is Joseph. Most of you probably got owned by me a few times on StarCraft Original. But those things happens, more than you like. Anyways, enough of the small talk.

This 1.18 update is retarded. The update is forcing players to upgrade their PC. If you don't have a modern graphics card, say good bye to StarCraft. Unless you're willing to upgrade.

Basically, the update merged the Original StarCraft Game Engine *Take note on the (Original). Yes, ORIGINAL Game Engine* with the new pretty boy faggot "HD Remastered" Game Engine. So... there technically is no longer a StarCraft Original. It's now StarCraft Remastered. And now you are forced to upgrade your PC specs to be able to meet the minimum requirements for this StarCraft Remastered Game Engine.

Enough of the nerd talk though. I care less. StarCraft just screwed themselves. These people, these people that prefer the prettiest marine attacking the most prettiest dragoons attacking the most prettiest zergling are going to enjoy the game until the next "pretty" thing comes along. Enjoy the "pretty boy" bandwagon buddies. Continue on with your pretty boy sausage fest.

All i'm saying is, I don't give a shit about graphics. StarCraft was a great game. That's why I still played it. Because it was a great game. The whole idea behind StarCraft was amazing. But now, now I can't play it unless I upgrade this PC. Which i'll never do because i'm not a PC enthusiast. And i'm not a savage when it comes to pretty graphics.

Perhaps this team of developers working at battle.net could have focused more time on cleaning battle.net from hackers and cheaters rather than making a Marines Tooth shine brighter with his smile and a Dragoons Armor shine brighter and a Ultralisks Legs look more sharper. Those things have no relevance when it comes down to the game play of StarCraft. Perhaps this team of developers at Battle.net could have focused more on making battle.net a more enjoyable experience by improving ways to make public matches, 4v4, 3v3, and 2v2, more fair from the nerds and try hards on these competition leagues.

I'm just saying. Nothing matters anymore though because I can't even play the game anymore. Good luck gamers, staring at the Marines buffed and polished butt.


I like your approaching and honest opinion man. You will get ton of downvote but I really want you to post this on battle.net forum. We didn't even see that "shiny marine tooth" yet but we already encountered ton of bugs boy.

I mean what are the minimum requirements for the game exactly, a computer released in the past 15 years?

Like i said about a week ago 1.18 needs windows 7 now.XP no longer works.
So basically the requirements for windows 7.

Isn't using XP just a security risk? I really don't think it's Blizzard's fault they aren't supporting XP when Microsoft hasn't supported it for years either.

Probably.Many still use it.
I'm just saying the floor for W7 is the new requirements for BW 1.18.So it should be able to run on any computer from the past 12 years as opposed to every computer from the past 20.


If you still have to use Win XP because your PC is from 15 years ago and you can't afford a new machine, please do yourself a favour and install a light Linux variant like Xubuntu. You'll have a more secure PC with a modern UI designed in this decade and you can still use all your old Windows games and applications through the WINE windows emulator. I haven't tried 1.18 with it yet, but I bet it'll run fine, because 1.16 was working too.


matter of fact i heard today there are problems with WINE. Dunno how valid that is tho. Perhaps it's only an issue for some.
Broodwar for life!
Doink
Profile Joined April 2017
75 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-19 18:15:01
April 19 2017 18:12 GMT
#258
So did Blizzard mention if they're going to reintroduce custom hotkeys? No custom hotkeys means that a lot less new players will be attracted to the game while the players who want custom hotkeys will just make them with autohotkey etc.

Really bad decision in case they don't want to bring them back.

I really hoped that SCR would unite the BW and SC2 community and making Starcraft really great again, but without customizable hotkeys the majority of SC2 players won't switch

If koreans said that custom hotkeys need to go then they're really dumb. More players means more viewers which means more sponsors which means more tournaments which means more money.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 19 2017 18:13 GMT
#259
On April 20 2017 02:59 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I'm getting really bad pre-game lag a lot when I play with a few people, especially if they arent from north america. Half the time it then randomly doesnt lag in game (and by bad pre game lag im talking sitting there for 2-3 minutes on 0 second countdowns) or it lags unbearably. Anyone else getting this? -_-



I routinely have gotten 5-20s or so, but never 2 minutes no. Usually in game it's not too bad, and when it's a little laggy setting to high/extra high usually fixes it.

One thing I do like is that EH lat is nowhere near as delayed as it used to be on ICC
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Airhead86
Profile Joined April 2017
Norway4 Posts
April 19 2017 18:32 GMT
#260
Some weird stuff going on.. just played a 4v4 hunter on europe and i was terran and started with 3 scv and one drone. one of my allys could even move my units around ?
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